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Or they could just become active again?

Very much this ^^

It's silly that it can passive tank much more effectively than shields (which also need to be looked at; the delay is just stupid in my opinion).

You don't seem to be tankers so let's clear up a few misconceptions.

Active repairs? Never worked. If they started they would start at the end of the count down cycle, so every x seconds you got your repair. But eve get repairs and then it cycles, but dust might miss a cycle or two (not a second or two). So losing a tank because not only the repair not starting but often it would stop on its own. Or, better yet, ccp and their wonderful code will turn on one repair but turn it back off if you selected a different repair module. Yes, selected the correct module carefully and ccp would kill you anyway.

Fun. Not really, just a dead tank.

This was their solution. It is better than it was. At least for tankers. Personally I think that triple repairs are fun they are not the best solution. Two works very well, then adding a hardener or plate means the tank will actually survive the second hit from a prototype forge gun. Do the math, a forge gun can drop a maddy in three rounds. Not the silly militia ones, a real forge gun. Add getting hit by a advanced or better swarm followed quickly by a forge gun and triple repairs are not going to save you.

Hit the triple maddy hard enough and you get 75 wp, more than once, and they have to pull back. Rinse, repeat and harvest wp.

Learn the game. Play your own game.

If you want to change a game, there is a legion forum now.

You don't seem to be tankers so let's clear up a few misconceptions.

Active repairs? Never worked. If they started they would start at the end of the count down cycle, so every x seconds you got your repair. But eve get repairs and then it cycles, but dust might miss a cycle or two (not a second or two). So losing a tank because not only the repair not starting but often it would stop on its own. Or, better yet, ccp and their wonderful code will turn on one repair but turn it back off if you selected a different repair module. Yes, selected the correct module carefully and ccp would kill you anyway.

Fun. Not really, just a dead tank.

This was their solution. It is better than it was. At least for tankers. Personally I think that triple repairs are fun they are not the best solution. Two works very well, then adding a hardener or plate means the tank will actually survive the second hit from a prototype forge gun. Do the math, a forge gun can drop a maddy in three rounds. Not the silly militia ones, a real forge gun. Add getting hit by a advanced or better swarm followed quickly by a forge gun and triple repairs are not going to save you.

Hit the triple maddy hard enough and you get 75 wp, more than once, and they have to pull back. Rinse, repeat and harvest wp.

Learn the game. Play your own game.

If you want to change a game, there is a legion forum now.

Wow, uhm, okay. So they were bugged? What's your point?

Armor reps SHOULD be active. Passive works on dropsuits because one armor rep is much less than shield recharge, while one complex rep has a higher rate than the shield rate of a shield HAV. Shield tanks are supposed to be much better passive tankers than armor tanks (a passive armor tank should only rely on EHP with 0 rep rate, like in EVE, which would require a logistics to be effective for prolonged/large engagements).

You're also wrong about the modules in EVE. Shield boosters provide hp at the start of each cycle, while armor reps provide hp at the end of each cycle.

Passive reps make it too easy. "Just pull out when your armor can't regenerate fast enough." Before 1.7, you had to know when to activate your reps and how to go about while they were on cooldown. An armor tank with reps on cooldown was a dead tank. Armor tanks already had "waves of opportunity" before CCP even introduced the concept. Ironically, they completely removed that for armor tanks with 1.7 and the nerfing of hardeners.

+1s for everyone. Pilots with sense in this thread.

all i know is. I lost like 3 gunnlogis in one match on my tanker alt a while back.

i'm not anywhere near an experienced tanker and i learned that it's gonna take a lot more than 3 shield hardeners, a proto rail, and having the skill spent to be perma hardened.

though i heard it's effective with a missile turret

You don't seem to be tankers so let's clear up a few misconceptions.

Active repairs? Never worked. If they started they would start at the end of the count down cycle, so every x seconds you got your repair. But eve get repairs and then it cycles, but dust might miss a cycle or two (not a second or two). So losing a tank because not only the repair not starting but often it would stop on its own. Or, better yet, ccp and their wonderful code will turn on one repair but turn it back off if you selected a different repair module. Yes, selected the correct module carefully and ccp would kill you anyway.

Fun. Not really, just a dead tank.

This was their solution. It is better than it was. At least for tankers. Personally I think that triple repairs are fun they are not the best solution. Two works very well, then adding a hardener or plate means the tank will actually survive the second hit from a prototype forge gun. Do the math, a forge gun can drop a maddy in three rounds. Not the silly militia ones, a real forge gun. Add getting hit by a advanced or better swarm followed quickly by a forge gun and triple repairs are not going to save you.

Hit the triple maddy hard enough and you get 75 wp, more than once, and they have to pull back. Rinse, repeat and harvest wp.

Learn the game. Play your own game.

If you want to change a game, there is a legion forum now.

most pilots have sense. the ones that don't are usually wannabes

My problem is that they do a better job of passive reps than a shield tank, which should be the passive repper.vehicle shields should constantly rep, and only stop telling if the shield breaks completely. As it stands, armor has more health, can rep higher, and cannothave their reps interrupted. They hold all the advantages.

better idea.. give tanks ACTIVE reps aswell as their passive ones... BUT give shield tankers some "passive" reps too HP/s version which work while in combat not while disengaged.

Or...here is a brilliant idea...give armor repairers a stacking penalty. I know someone at CCP is going to have an aneurism when they read that suggestion, but it is a risk I am willing to take.

Shield tanks used to have rechargers, that decreased the the delay, or increased the recharge amount. Something like that at least. Really, I feel the shield recharge is good on the gunnlogi, but it certainly doesn't compare to the armor reps.

What would really be nice is if the shield booster WORKED UNDER FIRE. Though I would rather see it increase shields over time rather than all at once as well.


*Off topic, personal note*
That and at the same time cut large turret damage down considerably, increasing time to kill between tanks.

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Or they could just become active again?