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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:07:00 -
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And why are you flappin the gal scout over so way more. its getting 10% dampening taken from it and 20% of range. on the other hand the spoiled caldari(favourite son, CCP has long been known for this) gets 10% taken from the range.
Why is the gallente getting spanked in the middle of the street in front of everyone? Its not theyr fault, it was the cloak
I demand cal scouts get a nerf to! |
Asha Starwind
894
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:13:00 -
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Looks at the Gal's 2 extra low slots. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
395
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:16:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Looks at the Gal's 2 extra low slots. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
and the cals 450 shields, yes I do think so... |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
10062
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:20:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Looks at the Gal's 2 extra low slots. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You do know it loses two two high slots for that, right?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3283
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:27:00 -
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It's also losing 2 reps per sec.
Basically, they made it a great eWar suit, people abused it and stacked plates and now it's getting the eWar stuff nerfed and people will still stack plates on it.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Asha Starwind
895
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Looks at the Gal's 2 extra low slots. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You do know it loses two two high slots for that, right?
Since you guys want to be dense( Cat Merc, one of few people, I'd not think to see a comment like that from). I was pointing out that with those two extra lows the the gal scout can kick out it's range much father, and lower it's profle much more than the Caldari could dream.
Having two less low slots is not a big deal, [sarcasm] since there's a plethora of mods that can be placed there.[/sarcasm] Gal scout getting two high slots is just insult to injury as is can now forgo any and all tank in the lows and run shield ext in the lows.
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Arcturis Vanguard
Red Star. EoN.
116
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Posted - 2014.05.31 14:48:00 -
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You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good.
Amarr Heavy_
Amarr Assault_
Caldari Scout
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1589
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Posted - 2014.05.31 15:28:00 -
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Read my sig. F@ggots fault.
PSN Sil4nt Chaozz
GalScout since Chrome when few used it, now every F@ggot uses it with a cloak
Decent shotgunner
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
10063
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Posted - 2014.05.31 15:36:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Looks at the Gal's 2 extra low slots. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You do know it loses two two high slots for that, right? Since you guys want to be dense( Cat Merc, one of few people, I'd not think to see a comment like that from). I was pointing out that with those two extra lows the the gal scout can kick out it's range much father, and lower it's profle much more than the Caldari could dream. Having two less high slots is not a big deal, [sarcasm] since there's a plethora of mods that can be placed there.[/sarcasm] Gal scout getting two high slots is just insult to injury as is can now forgo any and all tank in the lows and run shield ext in the highs and still have ehp approaching that of a Cal Scout running 4x Comp SE. I have yet to see a Gal Scout with more than one range amp, as the bonus (which was now nerfed to the ground) makes it quite pointless to have more than one.
Also, that module imbalance is a problem of CCP just putting everything into low slots randomly. This hurts non scout armor suits, as they are limited to either stack extenders, damage mods (which have been nerfed), or lol myo stims, because the low slots are dedicated to tanking.
So rather than nerfing the Gal Scout for a deeper imbalance, how about we root out the core of the problem and fix both at the same time? Hmm?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
10063
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Posted - 2014.05.31 15:37:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good. Yes, it will now be replaced by the Cal Scout, because it's the next best thing and wasn't far away from the Gal Scout at all.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3227
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Posted - 2014.05.31 16:13:00 -
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*Looks at Amarr scout* yeah keep on complaining I welcome the day when they buff us and a storm of black and blue battle skirts triumph the field...
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
477
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Posted - 2014.05.31 17:13:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:*Looks at Amarr scout* yeah keep on complaining I welcome the day when they buff us and a storm of black and blue battle skirts triumph the field...
Least you've got looks on your side... Wanna trade skins? You can have my Minmatar, I'll take that sweet Amarr look, deck it out with hacking and Nova Knife bonuses... we'll all be happy, right?
Nova Knives are magic~
-Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column-
And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!
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Arcturis Vanguard
Red Star. EoN.
117
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Posted - 2014.05.31 22:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good. Yes, it will now be replaced by the Cal Scout, because it's the next best thing and wasn't far away from the Gal Scout at all.
I don't doubt that people will chase the next "fotm". They always have because they need a crutch to make themselves relevant, well think they are. I know I specialized into the calscout because I had a feeling that the cloak was going to be unbalanced and abused and I wanted to have a good counter for not only myself but those I play with consistently. I gladly welcome balance fixes. In my mind, a scout should be fragile but quick. They get behind enemy lines to hack objectives, place uplink for squad/team to redeploy. They should never be front line fighters which seems to be what the scout is now. There are too many positives and not enough negatives.
Amarr Heavy_
Amarr Assault_
Caldari Scout
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos Zero-Day
168
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Posted - 2014.05.31 23:37:00 -
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The fact that the Galscout went "FOTM" isn't because it's OP.
It's because no real scout wants to be passively scanned.
They nerfed the wrong suit. To the ground. |
fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
280
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Posted - 2014.06.01 02:42:00 -
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Check out the Minmatar scout. That suit is completly usless. Won't fit same teir fittings because the CPU/PG is under power, can't do any EWAR at all, Has to put in 2 Conplex Dampeners just so militia suits don't pick up on passive, lose the speed tanking ability because of this, results in 280ish shelds 80 armour. At the same teir that is over 400 less EHP than other scouts. Pathetic really.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Izlare Lenix
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
625
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Posted - 2014.06.01 03:23:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:The fact that the Galscout went "FOTM" isn't because it's OP.
It's because no real scout wants to be passively scanned.
They nerfed the wrong suit. To the ground.
More than 50% of current scouts use the gal scout for this very reason. It's the best at dampening. This will remain true after hotfix alpha, which is why I believe the gal scout will still be the most popular scout, making the cal scout even less useful since a cal scout cant scan a properly dampened gal scout.
Also the current imbalance of the gal scout is shocking.
They can be completely unscannable with 1 damp and a cloak, they can use two kin cats to be fast as hell, they can stack a plate for ehp all while getting 3 free reps a second AND while having half of the cal scouts scanning bonus, the range bonues. The gal scout is a ghost and should never of had a scan range bonues.
It is no wonder the gal scout currently dominates the scout community. You don't have to sacrafice anything for dampening, speed, hp, reps or scan range meanwhile to take advantage of the cal scouts bonuses you have to use almost all of you high and low slots and you STILL can not scan a gal scout.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
403
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Posted - 2014.06.01 04:07:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good.
I already started calculating fits and specin in that direction now. I have learned to adapt with the game. My main point is that caldari shouldnt have their bonus untouched when gallente gets nerfed to trash. (and dont give me that bullshit with 2 meters taken away from their scans) |
Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
406
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Posted - 2014.06.01 04:40:00 -
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poison Diego wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good. I already started calculating fits and specin in that direction now. I have learned to adapt with the game. My main point is that caldari shouldnt have their bonus untouched when gallente gets nerfed to trash. (and dont give me that bullshit with 2 meters taken away from their scans) Yeah, poor old Gallente losing four metres from their scans and still being better at nearly every possible role
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
405
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:12:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:*Looks at Amarr scout* yeah keep on complaining I welcome the day when they buff us and a storm of black and blue battle skirts triumph the field...
You saw from the beginning that the amarr scout was never going to be anything. Stamina? REALLY?!! how is that a propper scout bonus...? |
poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
405
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:15:00 -
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Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:poison Diego wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:You sound like a child when their toys are taken away.
The vast majority of individuals that specialized into the galscout knew how OP it was to other suits. This is ccps fault for implementing a suit and equipment without heavy field testing. And guess what, we are still beta testers.
Good players and good scouts will still make the suit work effectively as they always have. Those that were abusing the suit will find a new toy to help them be good. I already started calculating fits and specin in that direction now. I have learned to adapt with the game. My main point is that caldari shouldnt have their bonus untouched when gallente gets nerfed to trash. (and dont give me that bullshit with 2 meters taken away from their scans) Yeah, poor old Gallente losing four metres from their scans and still being better at nearly every possible role
THATS NOT MY POINT!!!
If you want to ***** over the gallente you have to at some point knock on the caldari den-¦s door(if it even has one u filthies, lol;D) |
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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
406
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:24:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Check out the Minmatar scout. That suit is completly usless. Won't fit same teir fittings because the CPU/PG is under power, can't do any EWAR at all, Has to put in 2 Conplex Dampeners just so militia suits don't pick up on passive, lose the speed tanking ability because of this, results in 280ish shelds 80 armour. At the same teir that is over 400 less EHP than other scouts. Pathetic really.
actually frag its not to bad scout. If you use it in right roles you-¦ll manage. it was never supposed to be advancing scout charging at enemies shoting up in the air. He is a point capturer and a beautiful point defender(gotta use those ishukone NKs). The absolutely dont belong in ambush unless practicing gungame with that P of Sh*t. The mini should have more CPU and PG though, the hackin modules and dampeners that u need don fit for sh*t... even with lvl 5 both PG and CPU |
poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
406
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:It's also losing 2 reps per sec.
Basically, they made it a great eWar suit, people abused it and stacked plates and now it's getting the eWar stuff nerfed and people will still stack plates on it.
no it will still have 3 hp/sec thank god. when I saw that I freaked. I was ready to write an essay on why they should absolutely not take that away. |
Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
592
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Posted - 2014.06.01 10:35:00 -
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ZZZzZzz
Pointless discussion this one. We al know CCP can't balance sh-ít.
Further this game is standing with one leg in its grave. I really really don't care at this point, it's like having a discussion about what your mom did and did not do when you where a child on her death bed
POINTLESS
ZzzzzZzzzz
War never changes
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fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
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Posted - 2014.06.01 16:33:00 -
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Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
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