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negative49er
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:17:00 -
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Normally all minmatar gear are either low CPU/PG or entirely cpu. The minmatar suit have the lowest amount of PG and decent amount of CPU, so of course their gear shouldn't be too costly on the fitting amount. But we all know that minmatar have the best weapons in the game(fix the flaylock) or to better say it that their weapon are high in DMG. If I'm able to put a six kin ACR on a basic suit and still have room to tank and have both a equipment and sidearm( to avoid problem later the sidearm was advance and the eqiument basic).
So to sum it up
USE YOUR OWN FREAKING WEAPON!!!!!!! :)
Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Team Bad Decisions
65
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:29:00 -
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I know what you meant OP but I know where this thread is headed.
uplinks
nanos
"Use your own equipment"
stuff like that
Remember we use the other faction's gear too.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
828
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:39:00 -
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Part of me wants racial suits to get an inherent (non-skill based) fitting bonus to their respective racial weapons.
So Gallente suits would, even with 0 sp investment, have an easier time fitting a Plasma Cannon than the other three races.
If this were done, CPU/PG amounts for weapons would need to be redone with the inherent racial fitting bonuses in mind. This would prevent the apparent issue 49er notes.
However, it needs to encourage racial purity, not discourage miscegenation, a subtle distinction. (Yeah! I sound like a racist!) |
Death Shadow117
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
89
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:41:00 -
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the asians need to be server locked.
Oh wait wrong place. the flaylock is op
banned for: trolling pc eliteist cocksuckers
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1674
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:50:00 -
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I agree. I don't know whether it needs to be applied to all races, but given what you posted, maybe they should raise costs on minmatar weapons, but then give all minmatar racial suits fitting bonus to minmatar weaponry.
This way minmatar still get the help of using the lower cost weapons on suits that so far have had a very hard time fitting things, otherwise they give suits without any problems with fittings more room to play with high cost modules, further gimping the minmatar in relation to the other races.
Its just the Man trying to keep us down.
"I've made a huge mistake."
-G.O.B. Bluth
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1679
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:56:00 -
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Or, we could simply make each tanking type cost vastly different amounts of each type of resource, and tuning suit fittinf space to accomodate this:
Minmatar assault- 4h 3l - 450 CPU 80 PG
Gallente Assault- 3h 4l - 350 CPU 110 PG
Amarr Assault - 2h 5l - 330 CPU 120PG
Caldari Assault - 5h 2l - 400 CPU 90 PG
Make shield extenders cost 60 CPU, 5 PG at proto.
Plates cost 30 CPU, 17 pg
Damage mods cost 50 CPU, 10-13 PG, and grant 3/5/7% bonuses.
Give us high slot Reactor Boosters or whatever, which give 5% extra armor repairs, and 10% PG.
Low slots need RoF mods, Effective Range mods, and Spare Ammo mods.
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1692
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:40:00 -
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Evil necro of GJR worthy tearshed.
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
541
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Posted - 2014.06.03 11:29:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Part of me wants racial suits to get an inherent (non-skill based) fitting bonus to their respective racial weapons.
So Gallente suits would, even with 0 sp investment, have an easier time fitting a Plasma Cannon than the other three races.
If this were done, CPU/PG amounts for weapons would need to be redone with the inherent racial fitting bonuses in mind. This would prevent the apparent issue 49er notes.
However, it needs to encourage racial purity, not discourage miscegenation, a subtle distinction. (Yeah! I sound like a racist!)
Agreed. The current assault suits could have their bonus fitting bonus reduced to racial weapons but then add something else like an HP buff or maybe fitting reductions for racial modules as well. The PLC situation is where my mind went to first as well haha. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
987
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:18:00 -
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negative49er wrote:Normally all minmatar gear are either low CPU/PG or entirely cpu. The minmatar suit have the lowest amount of PG and decent amount of CPU, so of course their gear shouldn't be too costly on the fitting amount. But we all know that minmatar have the best weapons in the game(fix the flaylock) or to better say it that their weapon are high in DMG. If I'm able to put a six kin ACR on a basic suit and still have room to tank and have both a equipment and sidearm( to avoid problem later the sidearm was advance and the eqiument basic).
So to sum it up
USE YOUR OWN FREAKING WEAPON!!!!!!! :)
I think all races should get a small fitting bonus for using their own weapons/equipment on their own suits.
Or maybe anyone wearing any race's suits should get a fitting bonus for wearing the matching racial weapons/equipment for that suit.
Generic weapons/equipment should get no bonuses or penalties.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
563
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:17:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Good stuff. I'm a big supporter of calculating fitting requirements and item properties. What you posted is very similar to what I have in my own spreadsheet calculations. I personally divided the races into being either CPU or PG-heavy - so just two groups - but that's a comparatively small detail. |
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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
313
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:30:00 -
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what's next? making certain races ride in the back of the dropship? |
Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
5140
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:33:00 -
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Everything seems to be balanced around racial-purist fits, which is completely wrong.
A pure-minmatar fit will be a hard-hitting glass cannon. Replace the suit with something else, and it'll just be hard-hitting.
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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1329
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:35:00 -
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Why should any other race use their own weapon if the combat rifle is better even with their racial weapon bonuses? |
D legendary hero
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1897
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:52:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:I know what you meant OP but I know where this thread is headed.
uplinks
nanos
"Use your own equipment"
stuff like that
Remember we use the other faction's gear too.
minmatar are know for using other races weapons, thats part of our lore.
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
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D legendary hero
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1897
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:53:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Why should any other race use their own weapon if the combat rifle is better even with their racial weapon bonuses?
because minmatar suits are the worst suits in the game with the worst bonuses so it balances out.
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
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