DUST Search - How to be an OP sniper.....

End is Near wrote:

Louis Domi wrote:

End is Near wrote:

First, your core skills must be lvl 5.

Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best)

5 complex damage mods

4 complex armour plates

10 nano hives Shocked

(if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair

LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING!

Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on.

When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives.
Bring some friends along and make it a party....

I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers

If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun....

I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody..

This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious!

I gotta admit...I used to have the same exact fitting...
Last time i went on the MCC(Open Beta) Those missle things killed me, has this changed?

I sit towards the middle. Missle hit at front/rear. I did get some minor splash damage as I was running to my nest.

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End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 91	Posted - 2014.05.26 00:26:00 - [1] - Quote First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious!
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3220	Posted - 2014.05.26 00:28:00 - [2] - Quote Thale+redline> everything else Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 303	Posted - 2014.05.26 00:29:00 - [3] - Quote End is Near wrote: First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious! I gotta admit...I used to have the same exact fitting... Last time i went on the MCC(Open Beta) Those missle things killed me, has this changed?
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 91	Posted - 2014.05.26 00:36:00 - [4] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: End is Near wrote: First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious! I gotta admit...I used to have the same exact fitting... Last time i went on the MCC(Open Beta) Those missle things killed me, has this changed? I sit towards the middle. Missle hit at front/rear. I did get some minor splash damage as I was running to my nest.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 304	Posted - 2014.05.26 00:50:00 - [5] - Quote End is Near wrote: Louis Domi wrote: End is Near wrote: First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious! I gotta admit...I used to have the same exact fitting... Last time i went on the MCC(Open Beta) Those missle things killed me, has this changed? I sit towards the middle. Missle hit at front/rear. I did get some minor splash damage as I was running to my nest. Will have to try this sometime...
vlad stoich Heaven's Lost Property 71	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote Do you get more benefits from running 2 complex damage mods, and 1 advanced & 1 basic. Due to all the stacking penalities.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8858	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:26:00 - [7] - Quote How to be an OP Sniper: 1.) Grab a Rail Rifle HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1933	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:27:00 - [8] - Quote Explore. Get good with dropships. The best snipers in the game have their own spots never in the redline that give them vantage over nearly the entire battlefield. They actively hunt enemy snipers at every second and eliminate them before they setup. Headshots. Sniping in DUST isn't about hitting ... If your sniping just to Hit your target... Might aswell just stop. Sniping in DUST is 100% about the headshot... The panic body shots are for finishing and still should be looked down upon.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8858	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:27:00 - [9] - Quote vlad stoich wrote: Do you get more benefits from running 2 complex damage mods, and 1 advanced & 1 basic. Due to all the stacking penalities. Two Complex Damage Modifiers: 9.56% 1 Enhanced & Basic Damage Modifier: 6.71% HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 952	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:48:00 - [10] - Quote End is Near wrote: First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious! Ahhh ... the ancient ritual begins again. Munch Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.

OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 109	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:18:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: How to be an OP Sniper: 1.) Grab a Rail Rifle Or Forge Gun !!! The best counter-snip ever If any enemy sniper will feel too good and leave redline. The whole situation can look very similar to all wild west movies with Jon Wayne. You aim against each other. You charge gun, he shoot you. Take first bullet on your chest with pride. Your forge is ready, you can kill him but... let him hit U sec time. Again take it on your chest. He almost got U. His smile is big, such as balls in his pants. Now the best part. W8 untill that very moment when he will almost **** into pants from happiness and Shoot that bastard down. Thank You 4 Your cooperation...
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 953	Posted - 2014.05.26 03:04:00 - [12] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Atiim wrote: How to be an OP Sniper: 1.) Grab a Rail Rifle Or Forge Gun !!! The best counter-snip ever If any enemy sniper will feel too good and leave redline. The whole situation can look very similar to all wild west movies with Jon Wayne. You aim against each other. You charge gun, he shoot you. Take first bullet on your chest with pride. Your forge is ready, you can kill him but... let him hit U sec time. Again take it on your chest. He almost got U. His smile is big, such as balls in his pants. Now the best part. W8 untill that very moment when he will almost **** into pants from happiness and Shoot that bastard down. Thank You 4 Your cooperation... Can you shoot one of those things 400m? Munch Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 769	Posted - 2014.05.26 03:12:00 - [13] - Quote They just need to let me get at them in the red line.... being able to sit behind a protective red line, be it a sniper or a tank or who ever.... is just plain silly.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5765	Posted - 2014.05.26 03:12:00 - [14] - Quote Logi, eh..? With the stacking penalties that apply to the -insane- amount of fitting costs for the 5% damage increase, you're better off going Caldari Commando and getting the 10% damage increase that -isn't- affected by stacking penalties. Just as well, you sacrifice grenades for the ability to fit two light weapons (I've seen people use Sniper Rifle + AV among other interesting fits) as well as having a -huge- amount of HP to survive the counter sniper -AND- an equipment slot for ammunition. Not that I'm giving anyone ideas or nothing. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
vlad stoich Heaven's Lost Property 71	Posted - 2014.05.26 03:29:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: vlad stoich wrote: Do you get more benefits from running 2 complex damage mods, and 1 advanced & 1 basic. Due to all the stacking penalities. Two Complex Damage Modifiers: 9.56% 1 Enhanced & Basic Damage Modifier: 6.71% Yeah, but what do the numbers look like if running 4 complex damage mods? The stacking penalty gets stronger, where if after the first 2 complex, you then went to an advanced then basic. Complex damage mod is only 5% now. What is the decrease in value of the second damage mod, the 3rd, and 4th. Can you actually get more benefit out of stacking a different way?
vlad stoich Heaven's Lost Property 71	Posted - 2014.05.26 03:30:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Logi, eh..? With the stacking penalties that apply to the -insane- amount of fitting costs for the 5% damage increase, you're better off going Caldari Commando and getting the 10% damage increase that -isn't- affected by stacking penalties. Just as well, you sacrifice grenades for the ability to fit two light weapons (I've seen people use Sniper Rifle + AV among other interesting fits) as well as having a -huge- amount of HP to survive the counter sniper -AND- an equipment slot for ammunition. Not that I'm giving anyone ideas or nothing. Navi was a beast at doing this. Sit in the open with a thales and proto swarm.
Midas Fool Watchdoge Explosives 437	Posted - 2014.05.26 08:24:00 - [17] - Quote It does not require a Thales, nor stacked damage modifiers, nor the redline, nor dropships to be a successful sniper. Your build is excessively expensive and obnoxious. You do not understand how damage mod stacking works. 5 x 5% mods is actually 5, 4.3, 2.8, 1.4, and finally 0.5 for a grand total of 14% bonus damage, or a Caldari Commando with ONE enhanced damage modifier. The ideal Sniper is a Caldari Commando. You will have the perfect set of tools: 2.14 (10% even) free Complex Light Damage Modifiers (when trained to 5) Faster Reload (this is the real prize imho) The ability to carry a (preferably Rail) Rifle to fight off spotters. A pair of nanohives. You shouldn't be burning through 2 nanohives all that fast. 3 high slots at proto for a total of 22.1% bonus damage stacked (not including Proficiency!) If you feel brave, the Caldari Assault's reload/fitting bonuses are better than nothing. 4 high slots at proto is more than enough if you really feel the need to crank damage. Don't aim to get headshots. Get headshots. Seriously just get them. Of course it takes practice. If you can't get a headshot, tag him so your teammates (I hope you have squadmates) can kill the target. Don't waste your ammo on Sentinel Gk.0s (especially if they are being repped or standing on hives) or vehicles. Don't waste your ammo period. Move, move, move. Unless you like dying to scouts/forge guns/tanks. Or put down rep hives so I can see you way out there If they remove my (totally 100% balanced) exploit, they owe me cash money and a respec!!!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1557	Posted - 2014.05.26 08:31:00 - [18] - Quote I snipe a lot, but i hardly ever get 'that sweetspot headshot.' I'm going to go practice more, thanks guys. PSN Sil4nt Chaozz Scout that keeps hacking stuff, 'SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED' Don't need HP mods to be a boss, just a SCP
Midas Fool Watchdoge Explosives 439	Posted - 2014.05.26 08:46:00 - [19] - Quote OH DAMN SON Just did the math, and a Commando Ck.0 with 3 complex damage modifiers and a Thales does 487 Damage!!!! BEFORE HEADSHOT DAMAGE!!! Honestly your Logi will do 458, which isn't that much less, but at the cost of 3 extra low slot modules, 2 extra high slot modules, and no backup weapon. And those 3 other sets of hives you want to put on so bad. If they remove my (totally 100% balanced) exploit, they owe me cash money and a respec!!!
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 770	Posted - 2014.05.26 10:22:00 - [20] - Quote The problem with Commando snipers is they are so easy to spot and they are slow, not at all stealthy like a scout sniper would be. That's fine. That's a trade-off for the added protection of a 2nd light weapon and added damage. THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF SNIPERS SIT WAY BACK IN THE REDLINE - TOTALLY UNTOUCHABLE! (As do some tanks) That bit is wrong, everyone who causes damage on the battlefield should also be able to be damaged. And not only by counter sniping or warbarge strikes. CCP adjust the redline already.

DJINN GITAXIS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 45	Posted - 2014.05.26 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: The problem with Commando snipers is they are so easy to spot and they are slow, not at all stealthy like a scout sniper would be. That's fine. That's a trade-off for the added protection of a 2nd light weapon and added damage. THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF SNIPERS SIT WAY BACK IN THE REDLINE - TOTALLY UNTOUCHABLE! (As do some tanks) That bit is wrong, everyone who causes damage on the battlefield should also be able to be damaged. And not only by counter sniping or warbarge strikes. CCP adjust the redline already. I agree that the only logical option for snipers trying to take down prototype suits is to be sniping in a Commando suit. It feels forced CCP. You don't need to revenge kill every single sniper. It would seem fair if you could, but it's their duty to be out of the way far removed to get excellent vantage points. You won't be getting those generally if you're 50m up on an easily accessible rooftop ladder included. How to counter a sniper.. 1. Switch to a heavy suit.(passive) 2. Switch to a suit with a cloak. (passive) 3. Play indoors. (passive) 4. Never stop moving. (passive) 5. Avoid their line of sight. (passive) 6. ADS you can kill infantry in the redline in 20 seconds. (active) ^ with splash damage missiles you hardly have to aim ^ 7. Rail Tanks can counter snipe effectively. (active) 8 Forge Guns can counter snipe effectively. (active 9. You could switch to counter sniping like a boss. (active) 10. Warbarge Strike that Thale's user in a pub match. (active) 11. Get inside of a vehicle. (passive) You don't need my help to figure it out. Revenge kills on snipers require more effort. It's that simple and there's nothing wrong with it. It takes more effort to kill a person in a vehicle, a cloaked scout, a heavy suit, a sniper on a hill. The end.
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2287	Posted - 2014.05.26 13:19:00 - [22] - Quote 1 Thale's 1 Brick Tanked Heavy suit 1 Min Logi with armor repairing hives and a core focused repair tool 1 Triple hardened Rail tank with a seat to escape OB's and shoot down Dropships Tanker/Logi
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 307	Posted - 2014.05.26 13:19:00 - [23] - Quote End is Near wrote: First, your core skills must be lvl 5. Next you need a lvl 5 logi (caldari would be best) 5 complex damage mods 4 complex armour plates 10 nano hives (if you just plain suck) I use 2 ammo, 2 repair LOCATION IS EVERYTHING! TIMING IS EVERYTHING! Let them walk into the shot! DON'T CHASE em. Once they know its a sniper, they will run. If you miss, move on. When I snipe, the MCC roof is the place to be. Plenty of room up there for all those hives. Bring some friends along and make it a party.... I imagine all the ones crying are lvl 1 snipers If you want MORE armour, try sniping with a Cko heavy. That's fun.... I think im gonna run sniper for a while. Forgot how much fun it was to one shot somebody.. This is NOT a troll post! DEAD serious! To be completely honest - days of "OP sniper" have ended long time ago, there isn't such thing currently in game.. Situation may change when we all get a new(minmatar) sniper rifle and CCP will deal with armor plates. Thats the major steps that need to be done in first place, then whole sniping mechanic need to change, so that snipers can be more mobile, and skill(real skill) depended. edit: not to mention about series of bugs that we have to deal with everyday - invisible structures at distance, no-dmg shots, invisible shields that prevent killing LAV-driver and gunner.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9099	Posted - 2014.06.03 18:23:00 - [24] - Quote vlad stoich wrote: Atiim wrote: vlad stoich wrote: Do you get more benefits from running 2 complex damage mods, and 1 advanced & 1 basic. Due to all the stacking penalities. Two Complex Damage Modifiers: 9.56% 1 Enhanced & Basic Damage Modifier: 6.71% Yeah, but what do the numbers look like if running 4 complex damage mods? The stacking penalty gets stronger, where if after the first 2 complex, you then went to an advanced then basic. Complex damage mod is only 5% now. What is the decrease in value of the second damage mod, the 3rd, and 4th. Can you actually get more benefit out of stacking a different way? For an explanation on how Damage Modifiers work, go here. To calculate the penalties, go here. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 302	Posted - 2014.06.03 18:48:00 - [25] - Quote My equipment always slid off the roof of the MCC. I've given up my sniper fits for a scrambler rifle--haven't fired an SR in a few weeks. Also, I'd argue that the Amarr logi suit is hands down the best sniper suit since you also get a sidearm slot. With the damage mod nerf in 1.8, the extra two complex mods (ie, 3 in the Amarr vs 5 in the Cal) only grants an extra 2.2% damage bonus, and when we're talking about alpha damage in the 400 - 750 / shot range, the 2.2% difference is rarely ever going to be the deciding factor in whether your target dies or not. But you can still stack armor and pack NHs like a mofo.


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