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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:02:00 -
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Why in the world do you have the gun that has the most DPS on the suit that has the most HP? That's not even the problem I want to bring up right now.
I see why you want to nerf scouts, but the problem is HEAVIES.
A full round of a proto CR from a scout can't down a standard heavy if 75% of the bullets in the clip hit. Yet, a proto HMG can decimate a scout in less than one second.
Heavies cry about scouts using REs, but how the f*ck are they supposed to kill them? It'd take 1 3/4 clips to down him with a PROTO CR.
My point is, CCP, no need to nerf scouts.
Buff assaults. Nerf HMG.
GÇ£War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:05:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:
Buff assaults. Nerf HMG.
Huh, a couple months ago everyone was asking for just the exact opposite... |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:06:00 -
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"Who's trolling the forums, Alex, for 300 please"
"I am a Scout. I can't kill heavy but he can kill my weak frame in less than one second"
"Who's Hakyou Brutor?"
"Correct!"
"Who needs to shut up for 500 please"
Saying what's on people's minds
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
678
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:08:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:"Who's trolling the forums, Alex, for 300 please"
"I am a Scout. I can't kill heavy but he can kill my weak frame in less than one second"
"Who's Hakyou Brutor?"
"Correct!"
"Who needs to shut up for 500 please"
....what?
GÇ£War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
GÇò George Orwell
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:11:00 -
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Humorless human detected. Commencing Tacnet shutdown
Saying what's on people's minds
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
951
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Posted - 2014.05.26 00:14:00 -
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Jeopardy.
The game show.
The internet knows.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
680
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:01:00 -
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bump, cause heavies are OP
GÇ£War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
GÇò George Orwell
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1768
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:12:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:bump, cause heavies are OP
I don't know. They are meant to be feared in CQC.
My laser rifle loves melting them at range in the open. They are too slow and I can hit them with near 100% accuracy; I can bring down armor heavies with one continuous beam (Amarr assault 5 helps  )
Though I rage about drive-by heavies. They just try to run you over with their LAVs and then hop out to mow you down with their HMGs. Heavies' power is offset by mobility issues, but those mobility issues are easily negated with an LAV.
I honestly think heavies should not be able to operate vehicles as a starter.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
1052
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:22:00 -
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As a heavy for a year and a half, I don't recall any heavy suit user complaining about REs.
Contact grenades perhaps, but not the RE.
They've been the bane to my existence for quite some time. But I feel this is a good thing.
Btw, stay 50+ meters away and watch as our fat baby legs fail to crawl in your direction before we die. I would say 40+ meters but some brave souls have been using the freedom lately, for reasons only God would understand. |
OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni...
109
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:41:00 -
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It's good to know that some people remember times when almost every rifle beats hmg at any range.
That was really scary...
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2548
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:55:00 -
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Heavies are fine. The HMG is fine.
If Heavies are a problem for you, then change your tactics. Fight them at range or CQC them with an SG. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1553
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:56:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:bump, cause heavies are OP I don't know. They are meant to be feared in CQC. My laser rifle loves melting them at range in the open. They are too slow and I can hit them with near 100% accuracy; I can bring down armor heavies with one continuous beam (Amarr assault 5 helps ) Though I rage about drive-by heavies. They just try to run you over with their LAVs and then hop out to mow you down with their HMGs. Heavies' power is offset by mobility issues, but those mobility issues are easily negated with an LAV. I honestly think heavies should not be able to operate vehicles as a starter.
I've actually done drive by's with my all BPO scout suit, it's a lot of fun. Clip the enemy, turn sideways so you pop out on the opposite side of the car from them and use the LAV as cover to finish them off. Much more challenging to do it this way than with a heavy, but works great for saving up ISK. Since hardly anyone runs AV anymore other than forge guns, it's pretty safe from AV as long as you keep track of the forges on the roofs.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
111
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Posted - 2014.05.26 03:06:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Why in the world do you have the gun that has the most DPS on the suit that has the most HP? That's not even the problem I want to bring up right now.
I see why you want to nerf scouts, but the problem is HEAVIES.
A full round of a proto CR from a scout can't down a standard heavy if 75% of the bullets in the clip hit. Yet, a proto HMG can decimate a scout in less than one second.
Heavies cry about scouts using REs, but how the f*ck are they supposed to kill them? It'd take 1 3/4 clips to down him with a PROTO CR.
My point is, CCP, no need to nerf scouts.
Buff assaults. Nerf HMG.
and around and around we go.
CCP, this is next command. The forums run this muther fuker so get to it.
CCP, you have no idea what you are doing, we do. Chop chop.
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
-Robert E. Lee
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Midas Fool
Watchdoge Explosives
438
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Posted - 2014.05.26 08:31:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:
A full round of a proto CR from a scout can't down a standard heavy if 75% of the bullets in the clip hit. Yet, a proto HMG can decimate a scout in less than one second.
This is genuinely funny. Thank you.
If they remove my (totally 100% balanced) exploit, they owe me cash money and a respec!!!
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2014.05.26 08:45:00 -
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"I can't kill a heavy with one clip"
"I can't kill a heavy on my own"
Where is the problem with either of these two statements!?
I don't like that RE's seem to be a viable option for taking out heavies, but if you can out smart us and lead us into a trap/bunny hop through the group dropping RE's as you go (you're the scum of the universe) then feel free but you certainly shouldn't be able to solo a heavy easily, ESPECIALLY is CQC and ESPECIALLY if said heavy has a HMG.
Part time Logi,
Full time heavy.
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CrotchGrab 360
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1515
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Posted - 2014.05.26 09:28:00 -
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Yes nerf the HMG, I am sick of trash corps spamming 6 heavies in one game of domination
and all hiding until you're in CQC and can't do ANYTHING about it.
it's as if CCP don't care, they just buff something so much from being broken and unused to being OP
and the most over-used thing, where's the balance? Don't follow them to legion as the same toxicity will follow.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
961
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Posted - 2014.05.26 10:01:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Heavies are fine. The HMG is fine.
If Heavies are a problem for you, then change your tactics. Fight them at range or CQC them with an SG.
The only reliable way to deal with heavies is keeping your distance, the SG works only against poorly fitted heavies. A well fitted heavy can soak up to three to five shots of a SG that's more than enough time to bring down any suit with the HMG. |
The Rainbow Affect
The Rainbow Effect
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.26 10:59:00 -
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Heavies with HMG are very OP these days.
I'm tired of shooting, and shooting, reloading and shooting some more and I might take 90% of their HP and all they have to do is to tap R1 and I'm dead. Even in my 727 HP suit I drop in what seems to be 0.2 Seconds. A fit that may cost 200K isk gets snuffed out by a 20 K isk fatty like the fly it is.
The "engage them at range" argument doesn't really work. These maps are filled up With "cities" With 2-3 objectives placed Close by oneanother, easily covered by a Group of fatties and there is enough cover to make it more or less impossible to engage at range.
I know a lot of dedicated Assault players that have specced into Heavy and HMG during the suit respec, all I have talked to agree that the combo is insanely OP.
I personally don't have any issues With the suits themselves, but the combined effect of the HMGs DPS and its pushback effect combined with the fairly long range (for being a CQC weapon) just makes it currently way too good. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Shotgun TimeMachine
1077
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Posted - 2014.05.26 12:32:00 -
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The assault class needs buffing. So much so that Legion has shown a faster assault class with dual light weapons. This balances the staying power of the heavy against the combat versatility of the assault with the first strike capability of the scout. Suddenly assaults can swap to their shotgun in cqc :O
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
684
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Posted - 2014.05.26 12:48:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:The assault class needs buffing. So much so that Legion has shown a faster assault class with dual light weapons. This balances the staying power of the heavy against the combat versatility of the assault with the first strike capability of the scout. Suddenly assaults can swap to their shotgun in cqc :O
Legion? What are you talking about? This here game I'm still playing is called DUST 514.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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DJINN GITAXIS
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2014.05.26 13:19:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Why in the world do you have the gun that has the most DPS on the suit that has the most HP? That's not even the problem I want to bring up right now.
I see why you want to nerf scouts, but the problem is HEAVIES.
A full round of a proto CR from a scout can't down a standard heavy if 75% of the bullets in the clip hit. Yet, a proto HMG can decimate a scout in less than one second.
Heavies cry about scouts using REs, but how the f*ck are they supposed to kill them? It'd take 1 3/4 clips to down him with a PROTO CR.
My point is, CCP, no need to nerf scouts.
Buff assaults. Nerf HMG.
As a scout just stay out of the HMG effective range. Unload a clip. (duck into cover / reload) Come out and finish him.
-Stay out of tight spaces where you could turn the corner and find a heavy
-Stop camping uplinks at point blank range
However, I do feel heavies have a few too many hit points. If it takes 6-8 rounds from a tactical sniper to kill a guy.. add in reload time.. I don't care how slow they are.. they probably made it to cover and know where you are.. and most importantly they're still breathing. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1833
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:07:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Why in the world do you have the gun that has the most DPS on the suit that has the most HP? That's not even the problem I want to bring up right now.
I see why you want to nerf scouts, but the problem is HEAVIES.
A full round of a proto CR from a scout can't down a standard heavy if 75% of the bullets in the clip hit. Yet, a proto HMG can decimate a scout in less than one second.
Heavies cry about scouts using REs, but how the f*ck are they supposed to kill them? It'd take 1 3/4 clips to down him with a PROTO CR.
My point is, CCP, no need to nerf scouts.
Buff assaults. Nerf HMG.
First problem, proto CR on a scout, scrubby.
Put that rifle on a Minnie Comando and team it up with a mass driver for the racial bonuses, hit em at range with the CR and finish em off with a couple MD rounds.
Fixed...
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Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
1236
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:44:00 -
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lol medium and light suits complaining about losing in 1v1's with a heavy.
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
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Albyat Tyre
Glitched Connection
41
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:50:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:lol medium and light suits complaining about losing in 1v1's with a heavy.
As a full time heavy, The only thing I would like to see disappear are the chicken s#!$ RE. Not a gentlemanly way to fight IMO
To live as one shall live, I prefer killing red dots.
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Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
1236
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:54:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Hynox Xitio wrote:lol medium and light suits complaining about losing in 1v1's with a heavy. As a full time heavy, The only thing I would like to see disappear are the chicken s#!$ RE. Not a gentlemanly way to fight IMO
i admit that heavies certainly don't need a buff, but complaining about losing to them in 1v1's is just silly.
Everyone knows there are three ways to beat a heavy.
1: Outnumber them or get a significant range advantage.
2: Get the drop on them.
3: HEAVY FIGHT!
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
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