DUST Search - [REQUEST] Amarr Scout

Sir Dukey wrote:

Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:

Amarr Scout suffers from a complete lack of purpose in the current meta, more than any other suit (except Assaults, I guess but that isn't the point).
The recent 'Hotfix: Alpha' notes show that you're seriously considering the roles of the scouts; well, here're my two cents (courtesy of Jebus McKing).

Remove the Scan radius bonus from Gallente AND Caldari scouts. Give it to the Amarr Scout.

Amarr scout won't have the capabilities to be a 'wall hack' like the current Caldari Scout, with its immense scan precision, but it will be able to pick up most medium frames.
This makes it excellent for its stated role of 'light assault'; its scan radius would make it excellent for spotting incursions of assault suits or heavy/logi combos.

The Amarr suits, being incredibly slow are extremely vulnerable to being outflanked by any and all other frames; the Amarr Scour having a scan radius bonus (But no precision bonus) would make it excellent for predicting large scale assaults.

Also, what are you going to replace the bonus you take away from gallante and caldari scout with?

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Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 286	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:02:00 - [1] - Quote Amarr Scout suffers from a complete lack of purpose in the current meta, more than any other suit (except Assaults, I guess but that isn't the point). The recent 'Hotfix: Alpha' notes show that you're seriously considering the roles of the scouts; well, here're my two cents (courtesy of Jebus McKing). Remove the Scan radius bonus from Gallente AND Caldari scouts. Give it to the Amarr Scout. Amarr scout won't have the capabilities to be a 'wall hack' like the current Caldari Scout, with its immense scan precision, but it will be able to pick up most medium frames. This makes it excellent for its stated role of 'light assault'; its scan radius would make it excellent for spotting incursions of assault suits or heavy/logi combos. The Amarr suits, being incredibly slow are extremely vulnerable to being outflanked by any and all other frames; the Amarr Scour having a scan radius bonus (But no precision bonus) would make it excellent for predicting large scale assaults. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 537	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:30:00 - [2] - Quote I like it. I always wondered why the Gallente Scout, with it's role being stealth, required the bonus to scan radius. However I can't say much about the effect on the Caldari Scout because I never played with it much. Being the long range scanning Scout is probably not the role I always envisioned for the Amarr Scout, but considering the restrictions on the development of Dust I guess this is one avenue we could go, e.g. for hotfix beta.
Tonka Legacy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 115	Posted - 2014.05.25 20:41:00 - [3] - Quote so THATS what makes caldari scouts so good and overused Sentinel: I am heavy weapons guy... Commando: I got a RR and a CR, Im so good. Logi: In it 4 the points and points only.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1652	Posted - 2014.05.25 20:53:00 - [4] - Quote I like the idea in theory, as it would give them a unique role as a scout. Part of the problem with Amarr are their zealots. They are a little more picky and like their suits to match the lore more than any of the other races. "I've made a huge mistake." -G.O.B. Bluth
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 312	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:30:00 - [5] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I like the idea in theory, as it would give them a unique role as a scout. Part of the problem with Amarr are their zealots. They are a little more picky and like their suits to match the lore more than any of the other races. Actually, the Amarr guys are pretty supportive of the idea. It's pretty 'Amarr' anyway, our doctrine is slow and pondering, so this compensates for our lack of speed with general knowledge. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 943	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:47:00 - [6] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: I like it. I always wondered why the Gallente Scout, with it's role being stealth, required the bonus to scan radius. However I can't say much about the effect on the Caldari Scout because I never played with it much. Being the long range scanning Scout is probably not the role I always envisioned for the Amarr Scout, but considering the restrictions on the development of Dust I guess this is one avenue we could go, e.g. for hotfix beta. there is no point in having scan precision if you can only pick up targets 25m away, often you will find your self in a mess.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 943	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:49:00 - [7] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Amarr Scout suffers from a complete lack of purpose in the current meta, more than any other suit (except Assaults, I guess but that isn't the point). The recent 'Hotfix: Alpha' notes show that you're seriously considering the roles of the scouts; well, here're my two cents (courtesy of Jebus McKing). Remove the Scan radius bonus from Gallente AND Caldari scouts. Give it to the Amarr Scout. Amarr scout won't have the capabilities to be a 'wall hack' like the current Caldari Scout, with its immense scan precision, but it will be able to pick up most medium frames. This makes it excellent for its stated role of 'light assault'; its scan radius would make it excellent for spotting incursions of assault suits or heavy/logi combos. The Amarr suits, being incredibly slow are extremely vulnerable to being outflanked by any and all other frames; the Amarr Scour having a scan radius bonus (But no precision bonus) would make it excellent for predicting large scale assaults. Amarr isn't about scan and range and dampen, it's suppose to be the tankiest of all scouts and have the ability to rip apart suits with a ScP therefore I propose 7% Rof ScP per level and 1+ ScP clip size per level in amarr scout.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 943	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:50:00 - [8] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Amarr Scout suffers from a complete lack of purpose in the current meta, more than any other suit (except Assaults, I guess but that isn't the point). The recent 'Hotfix: Alpha' notes show that you're seriously considering the roles of the scouts; well, here're my two cents (courtesy of Jebus McKing). Remove the Scan radius bonus from Gallente AND Caldari scouts. Give it to the Amarr Scout. Amarr scout won't have the capabilities to be a 'wall hack' like the current Caldari Scout, with its immense scan precision, but it will be able to pick up most medium frames. This makes it excellent for its stated role of 'light assault'; its scan radius would make it excellent for spotting incursions of assault suits or heavy/logi combos. The Amarr suits, being incredibly slow are extremely vulnerable to being outflanked by any and all other frames; the Amarr Scour having a scan radius bonus (But no precision bonus) would make it excellent for predicting large scale assaults. Also, what are you going to replace the bonus you take away from gallante and caldari scout with?
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 314	Posted - 2014.05.26 02:58:00 - [9] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Amarr Scout suffers from a complete lack of purpose in the current meta, more than any other suit (except Assaults, I guess but that isn't the point). The recent 'Hotfix: Alpha' notes show that you're seriously considering the roles of the scouts; well, here're my two cents (courtesy of Jebus McKing). Remove the Scan radius bonus from Gallente AND Caldari scouts. Give it to the Amarr Scout. Amarr scout won't have the capabilities to be a 'wall hack' like the current Caldari Scout, with its immense scan precision, but it will be able to pick up most medium frames. This makes it excellent for its stated role of 'light assault'; its scan radius would make it excellent for spotting incursions of assault suits or heavy/logi combos. The Amarr suits, being incredibly slow are extremely vulnerable to being outflanked by any and all other frames; the Amarr Scour having a scan radius bonus (But no precision bonus) would make it excellent for predicting large scale assaults. Also, what are you going to replace the bonus you take away from gallante and caldari scout with? IDC. Why do they need two bonuses? Amarr only has one right now anyway. Two reasons that's a terrible bonus for the Amarr Scout: one, it promotes spam over skill; an increased headshot multiplier would be something I agreed with. The second reason is that there is a reason the ScP got nerfed. I was going to build my 1.8 suits around the ScP, before I discovered they'd nerfed it. As in my ScP being top priority fitting. A limited 'wall hack' would actually allow you to shred medium suits; this bonus would make the Amarr scout a light assault as opposed to a gimp suit; running in the vanguard and checking for targets, or spotting for the slow-moving, long-ranged battle line. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1


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