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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:28:00 -
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IF CLONE PACKS are expensive
1) Good corps attack bad corps until only a few corps left
2) PC is dead again
This will only take a few weeks. Clone packs will simply not be used.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3957
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:22:00 -
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It's really sad that CCP left PC such a mess for so long. People don't give twoshits.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
373
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:26:00 -
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Establish landhold now.
Still a few weeks to collect as much as possible to stay atop the heap.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny = Biomass
Console Master Race
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3957
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:28:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Establish landhold now.
Still a few weeks to collect as much as possible to stay atop the heap.
It's not really about that. In two months nobody is going to be around to PC anyway.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
558
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:04:00 -
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PC needs to be deleted.
Bring back corp battles and add a simple ranking system + leader board based on who you have fought and how many clones were left at the end of the battle.
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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Moonracer2000
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
803
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:15:00 -
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I say reduce the cost to get into PC, but increase the cost to maintain districts. Make it a money sink in the game. People will do PC as an ego boost/king of the hill experience, but unless they grind pub matches for profit, corps will not be able to maintain that high ground.
Sadly PC has been broken for so long and been such an easy source of income for participants that the economy of the game is broken. Any changes are unlikely to fix this.
Ashes to ashes, Dust to PC.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
581
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:22:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:IF CLONE PACKS are expensive
1) Good corps attack bad corps until only a few corps left
2) PC is dead again
This will only take a few weeks. Clone packs will simply not be used. raise clone packs to 150 clones but raise the price to 45mill and it shouldn't be to bad
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
758
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:23:00 -
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Why do people bother with PC anyway? it seems like a giant waste of time and money to me. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1895
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:25:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:PC needs to be deleted.
Bring back corp battles and add a simple ranking system + leader board based on who you have fought and how many clones were left at the end of the battle.
Not even a ranking system really. Players would create a system by which battles are 'ranked' or just 'casual' to determine who should be on the totem pole. Jeez, even using the Elo system would work.
High stakes corp battles would have been great or even low stakes ones. Don't give SP or money, aside from what the winning team gets from the pot, and let people have at it. Would be a GREAT tool for DUST Uni; start a friendly corp battle and teach people how to follow coms, different tactics, or even just "this is how you move and shoot." Would also have allowed for some fun stuff like corp battles that were melee/plasma cannon only. Obviously, it is only enforced via gentleman's agreement but still fun.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
640
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:23:00 -
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Raising the amount of clones you get in a clone pack is a great idea. However raising the cost is not. Most small tier corps that want to get into PC can barely afford clone packs at 36m let alone 45m. Not to mention anyone who knows anything about PC realizes it usually takes at least 2-3 clone packs to flip a district. That's 90-135m ISK per district flip. Not many corps that aren't already in PC will ever be able to afford that.
I do however understand corporations did it before, when PC was new. I have no invested interest in this either way, I just believe it's another attempt at fixing something that's broken with more duct tape instead of proper repairs. |
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
955
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:26:00 -
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The biggest change is that there is no incentive to hold more land than you can reasonably use.
Alongside the larger clone packs (They weren't big enough before, remember??) this should open up more land to more groups AND give them a more reasonable method of obtaining it.
Stop your whining and see how it plays out. If they need to change it again, they might. |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
955
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:30:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Raising the amount of clones you get in a clone pack is a great idea. However raising the cost is not. Most small tier corps that want to get into PC can barely afford clone packs at 36m let alone 45m. Not to mention anyone who knows anything about PC realizes it usually takes at least 2-3 clone packs to flip a district. That's 90-135m ISK per district flip. Not many corps that aren't already in PC will ever be able to afford that.
I do however understand corporations did it before, when PC was new. I have no invested interest in this either way, I just believe it's another attempt at fixing something that's broken with more duct tape instead of proper repairs.
45 mil would be fine. Plenty of corps threw 120 clone packs at us all day long, despite not having districts to fund them.
You aren't any less of a man for having a 5% corp tax, Standard suits are pretty cheap, and if you really belong in PC, you can get someone to hire you for a match before the changes.... Bam clone pack paid for. |
Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
987
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:36:00 -
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it would help to have varying amounts of clones in different types of clone packs...
maybe something like:
100 clones = 25,000,000 ISK
200 clones = 50,000,000 ISK
300 clones = 75,000,000 ISK
400 clones = 100,000,000 ISK
Best Idea For Legion
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3967
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Posted - 2014.05.25 00:47:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:The biggest change is that there is no incentive to hold more land than you can reasonably use.
Alongside the larger clone packs (They weren't big enough before, remember??) this should open up more land to more groups AND give them a more reasonable method of obtaining it.
Stop your whining and see how it plays out. If they need to change it again, they might.
Are you inferring my OP is whining? If so, punch yourself as hard as you can in the ****.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Michael Arck
4515
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Posted - 2014.05.25 01:02:00 -
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I'm against the raising of the price of clone packs but if they increase the clones, then that seems only logical that price goes up. After reading some of Kain's thoughts on the matter, I have reserved my opinions until after its implemented and we try our hand at it to see what's what
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1527
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Posted - 2014.05.25 01:12:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I'm against the raising of the price of clone packs but if they increase the clones, then that seems only logical that price goes up. After reading some of Kain's thoughts on the matter, I have reserved my opinions until after its implemented and we try our hand at it to see what's what
Or lower price increase clones to 150
Attack exploit was already fixed.
Closed beta vet.
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