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XEROO COOL
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:39:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Damn, it got frosty in here REAL quick. TOILETS... NAOW
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1777
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:48:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Damn, it got frosty in here REAL quick.
A visit from the CareBears will do that to ya
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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Rich MO-FO
Heaven's Lost Property
11
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:24:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Scout changes will go like this: No reason to be Amarr. No reason to be Minmatar.
Cal and Gal scout will be put further ahead as the go to scouts. The gal will be even more useful than the Caldari due to it actually being able to damp. For those that actually run e-war (like myself) will have to lose their dampeners for range amps on the Cal because there's just no point in using them.
Eventually the meta might migrate to nearly 100% gallente scout for REAL scout work after everyone realizes you can't hide from anything like you couldn't hide from scanners pre 1.8. Caldari will still be popular amongst the slayer types. The Caldari's precision will just be too much for anyone but the Gallente to handle. Minmatar will be even more hilariously bad.
We'll just be back to the scout meta of pre 1.8. Gallente scout, king scout. If they take away squad vision, I think it's gonna be MUCH closer to balanced. Perhaps lower the base profile of scouts a tiny bit and nerf the gal scouts bonus just a tad so it's not 2 modules difference. Gimble's post I honestly think nails it alongside an across the board increase in Scout Scan Percision
My Alts are in Real corps
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3087
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:37:00 -
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Rich MO-FO wrote:
Perhaps lower the base profile of scouts a tiny bit and nerf the gal scouts bonus just a tad so it's not 2 modules difference.
Gimble's post I honestly think nails it alongside an across the board increase in Scout Scan Percision[/quote]
Link?
CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3002
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:40:00 -
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Quite some bold posts being made
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
4847
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:56:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Quite some bold posts being made
Are you surprised? This is what happens every time a donut gets broken.
Someone has to be the biggest kid on the playground. People are scrambling to take that spot.
Headed to Destiny, to Hell with CCP
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3002
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:01:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Quite some bold posts being made Are you surprised? This is what happens every time a donut gets broken. Someone has to be the biggest kid on the playground. People are scrambling to take that spot.
Hope they realize they're not filling shoes but instead just playing dress up.
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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Derrith Erador
The Last of DusT.
1906
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:12:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Quite some bold posts being made Are you surprised? This is what happens every time a donut gets broken. Someone has to be the biggest kid on the playground. People are scrambling to take that spot. Hope they realize they're not filling shoes but instead just playing dress up. Hey, that reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you. Do I look good in this dress?
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
4848
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:13:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Quite some bold posts being made Are you surprised? This is what happens every time a donut gets broken. Someone has to be the biggest kid on the playground. People are scrambling to take that spot. Hope they realize they're not filling shoes but instead just playing dress up. Hey, that reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you. Do I look good in this dress?
You look great, but why are your panties around your ankles?
Headed to Destiny, to Hell with CCP
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3002
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:24:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Quite some bold posts being made Are you surprised? This is what happens every time a donut gets broken. Someone has to be the biggest kid on the playground. People are scrambling to take that spot. Hope they realize they're not filling shoes but instead just playing dress up. Hey, that reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you. Do I look good in this dress?
Your sexy as ****... Baby
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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Rich MO-FO
Heaven's Lost Property
12
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:48:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:
Gimble's post I honestly think nails it alongside an across the board increase in Scout Scan Percision
Link? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2173813#post2173813 That should do the trick
My Alts are in Real corps
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3095
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Posted - 2014.05.22 22:41:00 -
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Anyone have feedback on Starfire's post on redoing scout bonuses and my post on e-war meta?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2173813#post2173813
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2174533#post2174533
TL;DR
Active scanners need to be the end all be all for scanning because reasons.
Squad vision should be removed.
Cal and Gal bonuses are OP, Amarr is UP, Min is overshadowed by gal due to being scannable.
CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5101
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Posted - 2014.05.23 01:26:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Texas Killionaire wrote:So.... Attack the weak, flip the district then sell clones = ISK? Shifting ISK generation to biomass (killing clones) means that any clone selling, whether auto or manual, would not get you any or would get you significantly less ISK. Good thing you and your cronies have stockpiled all the ISK you'll ever need huh Lol if only this was true...
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
720
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:09:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Keep up the good work David the CPM. Kain Spero on the other hand will never hold land in MH again. Nope, I suspect he won't. I figured as much when I went against my own anti-donut principles to prove a point. Leave the anti Doughnut-ing to the guys and gals in 0.H and our friends, I can guarantee we can do a better job than your half-assed, selfish attempt at it. I'm keeping a close eye on you and the remnants of your posse, the community should do so as well and contact me or Whataguy if any suspicious activity comes up; like ERA attacking a Rising Suns district last night, that's a no no. We shut that down right quick. Have a wonderful day, its beautiful out o/
Do not let a sudden shift cloud your judgment tib. Do not walk the same path I did. The team we all assembled is strong but not infailable. Do not ever become the tyrants we have watched come and go. Do not ever feel that you hold Molden Heath in your palm. I've already made the mistakes and I will be damned to watch 0uter.Heaven repeat them.
Rejoice in your victorys. Thrive on the success but never become complacent. Be ever mindful of the seperent whispering in your ear.
But most importantly... Beat the everliving crap out of whatever team ChicagoCubs4ever tries to assemble against you.
Hopefully my last post I will make Everlasting God of 0uter.Heaven Radar R4D-47 |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
925
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:15:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Keep up the good work David the CPM. Kain Spero on the other hand will never hold land in MH again. Nope, I suspect he won't. I figured as much when I went against my own anti-donut principles to prove a point. Leave the anti Doughnut-ing to the guys and gals in 0.H and our friends, I can guarantee we can do a better job than your half-assed, selfish attempt at it. I'm keeping a close eye on you and the remnants of your posse, the community should do so as well and contact me or Whataguy if any suspicious activity comes up; like ERA attacking a Rising Suns district last night, that's a no no. We shut that down right quick. Have a wonderful day, its beautiful out o/ Do not let a sudden shift cloud your judgment tib. Do not walk the same path I did. The team we all assembled is strong but not infailable. Do not ever become the tyrants we have watched come and go. Do not ever feel that you hold Molden Heath in your palm. I've already made the mistakes and I will be damned to watch 0uter.Heaven repeat them. Rejoice in your victorys. Thrive on the success but never become complacent. Be ever mindful of the seperent whispering in your ear. But most importantly... Beat the everliving crap out of whatever team ChicagoCubs4ever tries to assemble against you. Hopefully my last post I will make Everlasting God of 0uter.Heaven Radar R4D-47
*claps* That was beautiful.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
CCP Logibro is not forum, Mike Ruan is forum!
I once owned half of a district.
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
953
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:21:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Keep up the good work David the CPM. Kain Spero on the other hand will never hold land in MH again. Nope, I suspect he won't. I figured as much when I went against my own anti-donut principles to prove a point. Leave the anti Doughnut-ing to the guys and gals in 0.H and our friends, I can guarantee we can do a better job than your half-assed, selfish attempt at it. I'm keeping a close eye on you and the remnants of your posse, the community should do so as well and contact me or Whataguy if any suspicious activity comes up; like ERA attacking a Rising Suns district last night, that's a no no. We shut that down right quick. Have a wonderful day, its beautiful out o/ Do not let a sudden shift cloud your judgment tib. Do not walk the same path I did. The team we all assembled is strong but not infailable. Do not ever become the tyrants we have watched come and go. Do not ever feel that you hold Molden Heath in your palm. I've already made the mistakes and I will be damned to watch 0uter.Heaven repeat them. Rejoice in your victorys. Thrive on the success but never become complacent. Be ever mindful of the seperent whispering in your ear. But most importantly... Beat the everliving crap out of whatever team ChicagoCubs4ever tries to assemble against you. Hopefully my last post I will make Everlasting God of 0uter.Heaven Radar R4D-47
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SgtNONECK WASSSUP
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:57:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Scout changes will go like this: No reason to be Amarr. No reason to be Minmatar.
Cal and Gal scout will be put further ahead as the go to scouts. The gal will be even more useful than the Caldari due to it actually being able to damp. For those that actually run e-war (like myself) will have to lose their dampeners for range amps on the Cal because there's just no point in using them.
Eventually the meta might migrate to nearly 100% gallente scout for REAL scout work after everyone realizes you can't hide from anything like you couldn't hide from scanners pre 1.8. Caldari will still be popular amongst the slayer types. The Caldari's precision will just be too much for anyone but the Gallente to handle. Minmatar will be even more hilariously bad.
We'll just be back to the scout meta of pre 1.8. Gallente scout, king scout.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1786
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:06:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Keep up the good work David the CPM. Kain Spero on the other hand will never hold land in MH again. Nope, I suspect he won't. I figured as much when I went against my own anti-donut principles to prove a point. Leave the anti Doughnut-ing to the guys and gals in 0.H and our friends, I can guarantee we can do a better job than your half-assed, selfish attempt at it. I'm keeping a close eye on you and the remnants of your posse, the community should do so as well and contact me or Whataguy if any suspicious activity comes up; like ERA attacking a Rising Suns district last night, that's a no no. We shut that down right quick. Have a wonderful day, its beautiful out o/ Do not let a sudden shift cloud your judgment tib. Do not walk the same path I did. The team we all assembled is strong but not infailable. Do not ever become the tyrants we have watched come and go. Do not ever feel that you hold Molden Heath in your palm. I've already made the mistakes and I will be damned to watch 0uter.Heaven repeat them. Rejoice in your victorys. Thrive on the success but never become complacent. Be ever mindful of the seperent whispering in your ear. But most importantly... Beat the everliving crap out of whatever team ChicagoCubs4ever tries to assemble against you. Hopefully my last post I will make Everlasting God of 0uter.Heaven Radar R4D-47
Yes sir o7
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
328
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:30:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Kain Spero wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Keep up the good work David the CPM. Kain Spero on the other hand will never hold land in MH again. Nope, I suspect he won't. I figured as much when I went against my own anti-donut principles to prove a point. Leave the anti Doughnut-ing to the guys and gals in 0.H and our friends, I can guarantee we can do a better job than your half-assed, selfish attempt at it. I'm keeping a close eye on you and the remnants of your posse, the community should do so as well and contact me or Whataguy if any suspicious activity comes up; like ERA attacking a Rising Suns district last night, that's a no no. We shut that down right quick. Have a wonderful day, its beautiful out o/ Do not let a sudden shift cloud your judgment tib. Do not walk the same path I did. The team we all assembled is strong but not infailable. Do not ever become the tyrants we have watched come and go. Do not ever feel that you hold Molden Heath in your palm. I've already made the mistakes and I will be damned to watch 0uter.Heaven repeat them. Rejoice in your victorys. Thrive on the success but never become complacent. Be ever mindful of the seperent whispering in your ear. But most importantly... Beat the everliving crap out of whatever team ChicagoCubs4ever tries to assemble against you. Hopefully my last post I will make Everlasting God of 0uter.Heaven Radar R4D-47 Cubs quit weeks ago homie.
Mood killer^
Stop trying to find things to troll about
Gosh your like poison ivy in a field full of smelly roses
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Farm
2282
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:32:00 -
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Too bad it took so long to make these changes...
If this had happened back when all the great players were still around we'd probably have had way more awesome competition. Hell, if they instated these changes and could optimize the game a bit to give us like ~5-10 more FPS this game would be 100x better.
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Kain Spero
3582
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Posted - 2014.05.24 02:04:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Too bad it took so long to make these changes...
If this had happened back when all the great players were still around we'd probably have had way more awesome competition. Hell, if they instated these changes and could optimize the game a bit to give us like ~5-10 more FPS this game would be 100x better.
Yeah, CCP was always very slow to change especially when it came to Planetary Conquest. %&!% would hit the fan and then it would take 2 to 3 months to get a reactionary result. I still remember me and Caz having to argue repeatedly with CCP for the re-up mechanic with the rest of the CPM supporting us. Heck I remember me and Caz having to argue tooth and nail for the director kick function so awoxing could be mitigated in a balanced way. Sigh, I do miss having Caz around.
I think the same thing though, Funkmaster. If we had had all these iterations to PC back in June 2013 I might be still playing with the rest of my Imp brethren rather than talking to them on Skype as they refer to Dust as "badgame" and shake their heads as some of us continue to play.
I really do hope with Snorri on board we will see adjustments, observation, and then iteration in a reasonable fashion in PC. The fact that it took making the worst (best?) blue donut in the history of Dust to finally get some movement on PC is a bit silly. Knocking most everyone out of PC though was the most sure fire way to get everyone on the forums and everywhere else complaining about passive ISK and get a reaction out of CCP to recognize a broken system and move to fix it.
Some say that getting rid of it won't make any difference or it's too late. Maybe, maybe not. Just because things ended up being really messed up doesn't mean we should stop trying to make the system better. The changes will go through and we can see how the world of PC shapes up as a result. There are sure to be some surprises, but that's half the fun.
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Farm
2287
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Posted - 2014.05.24 02:26:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Too bad it took so long to make these changes...
If this had happened back when all the great players were still around we'd probably have had way more awesome competition. Hell, if they instated these changes and could optimize the game a bit to give us like ~5-10 more FPS this game would be 100x better. Yeah, CCP was always very slow to change especially when it came to Planetary Conquest. %&!% would hit the fan and then it would take 2 to 3 months to get a reactionary result. I still remember me and Caz having to argue repeatedly with CCP for the re-up mechanic with the rest of the CPM supporting us. Heck I remember me and Caz having to argue tooth and nail for the director kick function so awoxing could be mitigated in a balanced way. Sigh, I do miss having Caz around. I think the same thing though, Funkmaster. If we had had all these iterations to PC back in June 2013 I might be still playing with the rest of my Imp brethren rather than talking to them on Skype as they refer to Dust as "badgame" and shake their heads as some of us continue to play. I really do hope with Snorri on board we will see adjustments, observation, and then iteration in a reasonable fashion in PC. The fact that it took making the worst (best?) blue donut in the history of Dust to finally get some movement on PC is a bit silly. Knocking most everyone out of PC though was the most sure fire way to get everyone on the forums and everywhere else complaining about passive ISK and get a reaction out of CCP to recognize a broken system and move to fix it. Some say that getting rid of it won't make any difference or it's too late. Maybe, maybe not. Just because things ended up being really messed up doesn't mean we should stop trying to make the system better. The changes will go through and we can see how the world of PC shapes up as a result. There are sure to be some surprises, but that's half the fun. All very true.
My bigger point was that a lot of the fervor and drama of PC just isn't there anymore because (a) a lot of the most notable players/corps have quit (which can be good in a sense, new blood and all) but more importantly (b) many see this as a dead and/or dying game and as such don't really care to invest anymore time into it. There are no longer prospects of new content. Even something like a new game mode would inspire me to play. As of now, after a year of "Capture Null cannons... to Destroy... Enemy MCC" coupled with no hope of anything different you can understand why many people/entire corps have quit playing.
Moreover, from what I know there hasn't been any mention of bringing PC to Legion so I just don't see the point of bringing these changes NOW after all the elite corps have stockpiled billions of ISK leaving the little guys to fight over dinner scraps.
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