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AFK Godfather
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:44:00 -
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So Nova got fired, Kaz retired.
So we have:
IWS: Biggest CCP whiteknight.
Kain: Been accused of stealing people's ideas and passing it off as his own (possibly related to nova getting fired)
Jenza:... don't think I need to say anything there.
So what is causing the cookie to crumble? CCP themselves? Or the failure of DUST and them not wanting to be part of it anymore?
Personally, if I was in the CPM, I would have got fired by now. No way I would sit there and say nothing about what went on at FF. Maybe more crumbs will fall off the cookie...soon  |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:47:00 -
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+ Hans.
I can count to potato also.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:47:00 -
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I think Kain quit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:+ Hans.
3 + 1 = 4
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:47:00 -
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Muh pretend U.N. |
PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:54:00 -
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irc really worked out to get in touch with the community.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I think Kain quit.
Edit:Knife got fired?
Knife got booted, it's in the council chambers section, not much info due to the infamous NDA though...
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
1946
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:37:00 -
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could you link a post to caz's resignation? and kain's as well(if it's real). I didn't see either in my pass over the council chamber room.
my gif is gone, DINKLEBURG!!
Ko6, scout
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Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:+ Hans.
3 + 1 = 4
I can count to potato also.
Since when has Hans ever done anything?
At least Kain has been an active douchebag.
Observe the amount of f*cks given
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I think Kain quit.
Edit:Knife got fired?
It sounded more like Kain can't be arsed anymore because there's nothing in it for him (surprised it didn't happen the day after he got back from his second free fanfest TBH) |
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.05.16 00:03:00 -
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4 more than necessary.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:03:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:+ Hans.
3 + 1 = 4
I can count to potato also. Since when has Hans ever done anything? At least Kain has been an active douchebag.
Hans is actually pretty solid, he just does his own blog and irc/skype instead of the forums.
Rumor (or maybe confirmed, dunno) is that Cazaderon quit in protest because of the Legion plans months ago, he's like my hero if that's true.
IWS, well, he's IWS, good or bad he's at least consistent. Hard working idiot savant I guess.
Jenza... not gonna say anything.
NK had a great blog about the whole fanfest clusterfuck but went off the reservation and started bashing Kain, maybe that's why he got fired (extremely unprofessionally by logibro, I might add) or maybe he's pulling a cazaderon too and some other shitstorm is coming down the pipe...
Kain? Personally I don't buy all the conspiracy theories about inside info. I mean, beers had PC and the blue donut figured out before it was even deployed. It didn't take insider information to pull off what Kain did, just having the right team in place at the right time is all.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:14:00 -
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I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:23:00 -
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Why do I have the feeling thread title was doctor who reference...
Closed beta vet.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:24:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place?
Oh come on, dude. I don't hate on IWS like other people do, but seriously, he brings a lot of it upon himself.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:31:00 -
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Kain is taking a leave of absence for the time being; to say we have the longest term of either cpm or csm is an understatement and the stress of being on for so long is beginning to get to some of the members.
As for the comments I have some rather thick fur and withstand the punishment. Though getting ran over from both sides is something I do not take pleasure in doing.
As for what Nova did I will keep my comments to myself; there is no need for thermite on that fire.
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kain is taking a leave of absence for the time being; to say we have the longest term of either cpm or csm is an understatement and the stress of being on for so long is beginning to get to some of the members.
Oh noes.
Are you stressed buddy?
Karma.
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Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kain is taking a leave of absence for the time being; to say we have the longest term of either cpm or csm is an understatement and the stress of being on for so long is beginning to get to some of the members.
As for the comments I have some rather thick fur and withstand the punishment. Though getting ran over from both sides is something I do not take pleasure in doing.
As for what Nova did I will keep my comments to myself; there is no need for thermite on that fire.
Feeble humans. Should have picked an Immortal to do the job.
On a more serious note, as much as the community doesn't always agree with some of the things Mr. IWS says and trust me, he says some dumb things at times.....(Sorry IWS)
However that being said, he is always commenting on the forums, always around and easy to get a hold of. He always tries to do his bit for the community. On sheer effort and time commitment alone - IWS you have my respect.
What use was some stupid channel / IRC thing that 99% of the community had no idea about? What use are CPM that half heartedly get involved or just plain dont even bother trying to interact with the wider community?
No IWS may say things we dont like but he was and still is leaps and bounds ahead of any of the other CPM on visibility alone.
So while we may slag off IWS, remember to respect the time and effort he put in. Misguided or not. |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:44:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place?
lol a whiteknight defending a whiteknight |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:09:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place? Oh come on, dude. I don't hate on IWS like other people do, but seriously, he brings a lot of it upon himself.
For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out.
I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:42:00 -
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Doesnt suprise me. CCP's leadership is incompetent as you can read here in the comments:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Reviews-E159347.htm
Things like the announcment of Legion at fanfest was one of the stupid decisions they made. But the list goes much further. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place? Oh come on, dude. I don't hate on IWS like other people do, but seriously, he brings a lot of it upon himself. For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out. I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
lolwut? Do you even IWS?
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1934
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:55:00 -
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this thread is pretty fun, but i'd like to point out that the renegades took over molden heath.
kain spero was just there to ride our coat tails, and if you talk enough on the forums people will believe you.
Djinn Kujo had far more to do with winning dust than kain spero ever had.
one of the hardest things about joining dns was holding our tongues when that jagoff started talking.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:49:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place?
Holy ****, this type of writting more or less guarantees that you are a CCP alt.
So who are you? LogiBro? Anyone with a greater analytical knowledge of writting styles recognize this drivel?
You are the only one around here who is defending legion, Dust 514, and our failed CPM. When you speak on a lot of these matters concerning the CPM/CCP stuff, you speak as more of an insider than of an outsider looking in.
So fess up... who is your main?
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Pvt Numnutz
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Posted - 2014.05.16 05:28:00 -
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Honestly I'd say the community is what has failed |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
479
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Posted - 2014.05.16 05:40:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Honestly I'd say the community is what has failed
Explain please.
Oh and as for the CPM, you guys should have maybe taken a look at all of the stuff CPM 5 went through and their actions before you act like helpless little twats.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.05.16 06:08:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Honestly I'd say the community is what has failed Explain please. Oh and as for the CPM, you guys should have maybe taken a look at all of the stuff CPM 5 went through and their actions before you act like helpless little twats.
??? so what happened to 1, 2, 3 and 4?
In countenance you should see how the end of CSM 7 was.
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
2013
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Posted - 2014.05.16 06:23:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:However that being said, he is always commenting on the forums, always around and easy to get a hold of. He always tries to do his bit for the community. On sheer effort and time commitment alone - IWS you have my respect.
+1.
There are many ideas I disagree with IWS on, but he puts in the time and effort to interact with the community.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:51:00 -
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OH SNAP ! Fun Read !
He, though forbidden by the Codex, was a Precursor. He tried the Replication of Chromosomes. He led to an Uprising
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2758
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:55:00 -
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Everyone on the CPM should just have quit in protest when CCP did not break the news about EVE: Legion early to indicate CCP were going to f*ck up, without breaking the NDA.
Since you did not do this, I have lost all faith in the CPM in the future. Hope for CCP was lost when Uprising was released.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:57:00 -
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http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Electronic-Arts-Reviews-E1628.htm
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:01:00 -
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EA is equal to CCP in this regard. EA management is a clusterf*ck of fail too. Its not the devs fault that EA sucks, just like it isnt the Dust devs fault that Dust sucks.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:03:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:EA is equal to CCP in this regard. EA management is a clusterf*ck of fail too. Its not the devs fault that EA sucks, just like it isnt the Dust devs fault that Dust sucks.
Look up many more game publishers you'll see a similar trend amongst most of them.
Oddly this mostly applies to technology companies not just video game companies.
There are exceptions of course but they're not heard of often.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EA is equal to CCP in this regard. EA management is a clusterf*ck of fail too. Its not the devs fault that EA sucks, just like it isnt the Dust devs fault that Dust sucks. Look up many more game publishers you'll see a similar trend amongst most of them. Oddly this mostly applies to technology companies not just video game companies. There are exceptions of course but they're not heard of often.
Start-ups. That is why I am working in one.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:12:00 -
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P.S.
Enter "EA Louse"/"EA Spouse" into your favorite search engine.
Warhammer Online experienced a quite controversial fail and shutdown. Everything was blamed on a certain person, that is now carrying on with his sucessful career and his dream of create the best RvR game, funded by his fans and from his own pocket. EA has not released a good game since the failure of WH:O.
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Gemini Cuspid
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EA is equal to CCP in this regard. EA management is a clusterf*ck of fail too. Its not the devs fault that EA sucks, just like it isnt the Dust devs fault that Dust sucks. Look up many more game publishers you'll see a similar trend amongst most of them. Oddly this mostly applies to technology companies not just video game companies. There are exceptions of course but they're not heard of often.
One of the very few times I'll be on the fence of any CCP issue but there was a time where there was a fair respectability on CCP's end; yeah the history of the CPM is an odd one and could also make for an interesting novel someday but that's kind of one of the things I feel CCP loss in transition to EvE becoming a "hit" game as far as sand-box mmo's. It had a pretty good community, feeedback team in place and it seemed it was pretty consistent in both expectation and delivering of quality.
There's always that odd part of any company that people on political circles joke that once a company becomes "successful" they're like a roman catholic church; initially persecuted and vilified but later accepted, adopted and then they become bigger and put on the breaks to maintain it's status quo in history.
Frankly I have my own concerns about the higher you go up in CCP; Legion is one thing but it starts with leadership and risks as well. When Leo Apotheker said one day HP was going to stop making computers sh*t hit the fan quick. I don't think CCP is at that point but the interesting part of that story was that a lot of the board in HP were "Yes men" when it came it him. No one had the balls to really test him on the idiocy of blindsiding everyone with such a statement. That's kind of what CCP is doing in a style sense; not really taking advantage of hardship and opposing views and really making it constructive. It also goes above the CPM and more than any developers in CCP in general because if CCP continues its cold streak it's going to affect the company as a whole. |
Ribbons Allmark
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:42:00 -
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EA releases good games like every mass effect, mirrors edge, dragon age, madden, fifa,nhl, bf, medal of honor(don't count warfighter), dead space, and many others. So stop bashing EA cause if they made dust im sure it would be alot better just saying... |
Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:47:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:EA releases good games like every mass effect, mirrors edge, dragon age, madden, fifa,nhl, bf, medal of honor(don't count warfighter), dead space, and many others. So stop bashing EA cause if they made dust im sure it would be alot better just saying...
They made good games, sure, they make is an overstatement.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.05.16 09:34:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out.
I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
lolwut? Do you even IWS?
Do you even IWS?
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.16 10:40:00 -
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Good lord, what a read! Yet all the devs get the flame for all the decisions that are made high-up . You gotta feel for some of them.
GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
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Posted - 2014.05.16 10:52:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out.
I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
lolwut? Do you even IWS? Do you even IWS?
Yes I do.
Again, I'm not on the IWS hater train. All I'm saying is the guy is not famous for his tact and communication skills. Don't even pretend like he's never trolled anyone or made poorly worded statements that could be read as insulting.
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.05.16 12:41:00 -
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Jesus i was jokeing about their management but man explains so much. Legion seems to be staffed by lots of new hires so i can only hope rouge and the new valk can have enough bight to get the management in gear.
Darkcloud if iv ever given u flack on that point i redact it:-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.16 13:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Honestly I'd say the community is what has failed Explain please. Oh and as for the CPM, you guys should have maybe taken a look at all of the stuff CPM 5 went through and their actions before you act like helpless little twats. ??? so what happened to 1, 2, 3 and 4? In countenance you should see how the end of CSM 7 was.
You really are just about the dumbest person on the forums aren't you?
CSM 5 was the CSM that dealt with CCP during incarna, and how they were acting EXACTLY like they are now. The released public addresses, signaled the playerbase things were wrong, caused a lot of ruckus about the way things were going. CSM 5 tried to represent their players. You have done no such thing, you sold us all down the river while brown nosing your butt off.
CPM is the #1 reason that Dust is in the sad state it is in today.
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.05.16 13:39:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:Personally, if I was in the CPM, I would have got fired by now. No way I would sit there and say nothing about what went on at FF. Maybe more crumbs will fall off the cookie...soon
If I was a CPM I would have pulled a light Snowden and revealed the tyranny of lies made by my employer.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: RND_Jungian
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
242
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Posted - 2014.05.16 13:53:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Honestly I'd say the community is what has failed Explain please. Oh and as for the CPM, you guys should have maybe taken a look at all of the stuff CPM 5 went through and their actions before you act like helpless little twats. ??? so what happened to 1, 2, 3 and 4? In countenance you should see how the end of CSM 7 was. You really are just about the dumbest person on the forums aren't you? CSM 5 was the CSM that dealt with CCP during incarna, and how they were acting EXACTLY like they are now. The released public addresses, signaled the playerbase things were wrong, caused a lot of ruckus about the way things were going. CSM 5 tried to represent their players. You have done no such thing, you sold us all down the river while brown nosing your butt off. CPM is the #1 reason that Dust is in the sad state it is in today.
Oh please, CPM is the #1 reason that Dust is in the sad state it is in today?
Really, ultimately CCP decides to listen to Players or their advice, demands, threats or in this case not listen.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
1985
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:03:00 -
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Cronyism? Old Boys Club? Who'd have thunk it?
BTW Caz if you did quit CPM for the reasons speculated earlier in the thread, bravo!
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EA is equal to CCP in this regard. EA management is a clusterf*ck of fail too. Its not the devs fault that EA sucks, just like it isnt the Dust devs fault that Dust sucks. Look up many more game publishers you'll see a similar trend amongst most of them. Oddly this mostly applies to technology companies not just video game companies. There are exceptions of course but they're not heard of often.
Dont have to cause i know the state which the video game industry is. Managment is not lead by players or people who have a clue what they are doing. No managers of video game companys usually came from regular companys like walmart, KFC etc. They dont know anything, they have no clue about the game their company is developing and they only care about money. So they look whats selling best in the video game section and that is: COD,Candy crush and Clash of Clans. So they then push the development to clone these 3 games. In my opinion CCP should get rid of their KFC and walmart managers and replace them with people who actually know what they are doing.
If you want a further indepth of the problem watch this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/9045-The-Unholy-Trinity-Of-Blind-Greedy-Bastards |
steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:21:00 -
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Given dust team was purged its possable CCP have finally clued up to this only legions development will clue us in. Also does CCP have shareholiders or is it still a private studio?
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Bad Cheetah
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:34:00 -
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I believe Kane quit when he got lolsmacked for trying to control everything about the game. |
lampwizard
returntrip
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Posted - 2014.05.16 17:53:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:NK had a great blog about the whole fanfest clusterfuck but went off the reservation and started bashing Kain, maybe that's why he got fired (extremely unprofessionally by logibro, I might add)
I did a little digging after reading the above comment, for your reading pleasure.
Here's the thread of NK's last comment.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=162243
Nova Knife wrote:Snark.
If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months".
However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However.
The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group.
I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past.
I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good.
Just saying.
(Shots fired?)
And here's Logibro's response thread, with edited op.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=162500&find=unread
In that thread, someone quoted Logibro's original post.
Mia Romani wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional. ...
Here's Logibro's last response about his op.
CCP Logibro wrote:Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation.
And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing). Additionally, this action was not taken in response to a single incident, but instead actions over a longer period of time.
hold that wrote:
Lazor focus these nuts.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out.
I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
lolwut? Do you even IWS? Do you even IWS?
Do I even IWS??? ...wait...
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Baan Mee Ho
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:35:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:So Nova got fired, Kaz retired. So we have: IWS: Biggest CCP whiteknight. Kain: Been accused of stealing people's ideas and passing it off as his own (possibly related to nova getting fired) Jenza:... don't think I need to say anything there. So what is causing the cookie to crumble? CCP themselves? Or the failure of DUST and them not wanting to be part of it anymore? Personally, if I was in the CPM, I would have got fired by now. No way I would sit there and say nothing about what went on at FF. Maybe more crumbs will fall off the cookie...soon
Wish it was IWS for all the BS he keeps Spewing all around |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
For sharing his opinions? So basically if you're not part of the butt kiss society, you bring in a lot upon yourself? Yea I can see that. The boys club around here all sing the same tune and when someone comes around with a different melody, you guys spazz out.
I can respect the man for standing by his opinions and expressing them in a clear way that is understandable and spoken with maturity.
lolwut? Do you even IWS? Do you even IWS? Do I even IWS??? ...wait...
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hold that
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:07:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place?
just drop your pants for him if you love him that much. just like ccp iws misled the player base. check out his posts days before fanfest hyping it up and alluding to new content, when the whole time he knew exactly what was happening. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:34:00 -
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hold that wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I really hate the white knight comment. Fanboy. This is usually uttered by grown man children who are idiots.
IWS, for what its worth, does his job well here and its commendable that as a CPM, he still has the guts to come around here and speak with you guys as you hurl your negative comments, name calling and overall "burn him at the stakes" posts at him. I know I couldn't have the patience to deal with the over abundance of moronic, bratty posts.
LOL @ the "If I was in the CPM..." daydream post. What makes you think the CPMs weren't vocal about the ordeal in the first place? just drop your pants for him if you love him that much. just like ccp iws misled the player base. check out his posts days before fanfest hyping it up and alluding to new content, when the whole time he knew exactly what was happening.
Anyone who really kept up with me would have known I was being "bittersweet" about it.
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hold that wrote:just drop your pants for him if you love him that much. just like ccp iws misled the player base. check out his posts days before fanfest hyping it up and alluding to new content, when the whole time he knew exactly what was happening. Anyone who really kept up with me would have known I was being "bittersweet" about it.
Should we feel sorry for you? I somehow doubt that the sacred NDA tells you to scam the community. And that's what you've been doing. Instead of STFUing you were gathering brown points with CCP. What's bittersweet about that? I just hope you can cash big on that service.
The flipside is that now everybody knows you're a shill and nothing you say can be trusted. It's a damn shame.
I liked this game.
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A
Caps and Mercs
97
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:13:00 -
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CPM = No comment about Nova Knife
CCP = Gross incompetence...
CPM, I'm sorry... You were the scapegoat to CCP's bullshit plan,
CCP NEEDS TO CLEAN THIS MESS AND MESSAGE THE COMMUNITY...
btw, @Offtopic
Legion progression is going to suck badly... I'm sorry ... The only part of this game you guys did a great job is going to fail in your 2nd chance (Love playing militia fittings for money) ...
My corp is moving to Destiny ... I'm staying ... all alone
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:31:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:CPM = No comment about Nova Knife
CCP = Gross incompetence...
CPM, I'm sorry... You were the scapegoat to CCP's bullshit plan,
CCP NEEDS TO CLEAN THIS MESS AND MESSAGE THE COMMUNITY...
btw, @Offtopic
Legion progression is going to suck badly... I'm sorry ... The only part of this game you guys did a great job is going to fail in your 2nd chance (Love playing militia fittings for money) ...
I am sorry if you feel that we're being muzzled over Nova Knife's dismissal; however I will not feel comfortable talking about it and rather out of respect for everyone involved would not throw gasoline on that fire. CPM Hans has sounded a sentiment that probably best reflects the situation. His dismissal is nearly on the same level as talking about employees let go from CCP; it is just simply not in good taste and generates nothing good going forward.
As for your off topic.
If you got a problem with the legion progression please I urge you to put your feedback in the thread.
CCP Z does adapt and does listen to feedback; just this progression is a massive undertaking so it takes time to draft anything new. He has been answering questions and how he thinks things should be; despite that when he approached the CPM he listened and adjusted and moved forward towards a model that was much closer to new eden's and dust 514's nature.
Just work with him and give him time; I am sure we can get something hammered out that will make everyone a bit happier and inviting for new players to join into this fine mess of a game.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:40:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hold that wrote:just drop your pants for him if you love him that much. just like ccp iws misled the player base. check out his posts days before fanfest hyping it up and alluding to new content, when the whole time he knew exactly what was happening. Anyone who really kept up with me would have known I was being "bittersweet" about it. Should we feel sorry for you? I somehow doubt that the sacred NDA tells you to scam the community. And that's what you've been doing. Instead of STFUing you were gathering brown points with CCP. What's bittersweet about that? I just hope you can cash big on that service. The flipside is that now everybody knows you're a shill and nothing you say can be trusted. It's a damn shame.
Sorry but if really understood me you'd understand that the brownie points I am after is from the idea and concept to the game itself.
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