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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

Arkena, thank you my friend for championing the idea of no trolls in this forum. This section has been respectful and contains a lot of constructive feedback, and we need to work to keep it that way.

If you have something more to add after you've posted previously, I recommend using the edit function and incorporating that into your previous post.
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:

I've love to see how 32v32 would work on these maps - we would need an additional spawn location to account for the increased number of players (I hate waiting in queue). That said, it would completely change the dynamic of the game. Gone would be the days of me holding a single Objective on my own for 90% of the match.

Spawning mechanics in general need a little bit of a rework I feel. Things like spawning on an objective as its being hacked and getting instakilled or being able to shotgun a hacker whilst invincible should be kept to a minimum. The Gallente Research Facility B-point (or raised tier objective in the main outpost depending on map layout) is probably the worst offender for this. As you spawn you spawn directly behind the hack console.

Increased player density would be a huge positive though I think. As well as alleviating problems with matchmaking somewhat it helps keep the game more exciting. Less time would end up being spent running between objectives and the like and more time being spent fighting.

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Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 1981	Posted - 2014.05.12 22:38:00 - [31] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: All of the above, and T II vehicles Oh, you can't forget about FW 3.0, PC 2.0, and a better LP store! I second the quoted items though I want to be able to roam New Edens planets the same way that my capsuleer can roam New Edens Solar Systems too. Free-roam, Open World gameplay (as much as it exists in Eve) is a must on launch. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13168	Posted - 2014.05.12 22:41:00 - [32] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Arkena, thank you my friend for championing the idea of no trolls in this forum. This section has been respectful and contains a lot of constructive feedback, and we need to work to keep it that way. If you have something more to add after you've posted previously, I recommend using the edit function and incorporating that into your previous post. ~~I am what I am~~ Pro forum tip. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I've love to see how 32v32 would work on these maps - we would need an additional spawn location to account for the increased number of players (I hate waiting in queue). That said, it would completely change the dynamic of the game. Gone would be the days of me holding a single Objective on my own for 90% of the match. Spawning mechanics in general need a little bit of a rework I feel. Things like spawning on an objective as its being hacked and getting instakilled or being able to shotgun a hacker whilst invincible should be kept to a minimum. The Gallente Research Facility B-point (or raised tier objective in the main outpost depending on map layout) is probably the worst offender for this. As you spawn you spawn directly behind the hack console. Increased player density would be a huge positive though I think. As well as alleviating problems with matchmaking somewhat it helps keep the game more exciting. Less time would end up being spent running between objectives and the like and more time being spent fighting. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Forlorn Destrier 2487	Posted - 2014.05.12 22:44:00 - [33] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Arkena, thank you my friend for championing the idea of no trolls in this forum. This section has been respectful and contains a lot of constructive feedback, and we need to work to keep it that way. If you have something more to add after you've posted previously, I recommend using the edit function and incorporating that into your previous post. ~~I am what I am~~ Pro forum tip. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I've love to see how 32v32 would work on these maps - we would need an additional spawn location to account for the increased number of players (I hate waiting in queue). That said, it would completely change the dynamic of the game. Gone would be the days of me holding a single Objective on my own for 90% of the match. Spawning mechanics in general need a little bit of a rework I feel. Things like spawning on an objective as its being hacked and getting instakilled or being able to shotgun a hacker whilst invincible should be kept to a minimum. The Gallente Research Facility B-point (or raised tier objective in the main outpost depending on map layout) is probably the worst offender for this. As you spawn you spawn directly behind the hack console. Increased player density would be a huge positive though I think. As well as alleviating problems with matchmaking somewhat it helps keep the game more exciting. Less time would end up being spent running between objectives and the like and more time being spent fighting. Edit schmedit. I'm too cool for school, yo.
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs 463	Posted - 2014.05.12 22:54:00 - [34] - Quote PVE PVE PVE As long as people have something to do while things are being balanced, they can wait for the proper tuning. Yes, i understand it is a PVP game, tht-¦s what we all want, but public retention is trough PVE, and having something to do with a group of friends, and we need a public retention to justify the game.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2341	Posted - 2014.05.12 22:56:00 - [35] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: PVE PVE PVE As long as people have something to do while things are being balanced, they can wait for the proper tuning. Yes, i understand it is a PVP game, tht-¦s what we all want, but public retention is trough PVE, and having something to do with a group of friends, and we need a public retention to justify the game. The importance of PVE cannot be overstated.
Booker DaFooker Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 209	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:49:00 - [36] - Quote A PS4 Port Bullshit Baffles Brains
Hammerhead LandSharkX Liberum Sapiens Xenodochi 11	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:54:00 - [37] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: 1. An important connection to Eve online. The main headline feature needs to be more significant, not just shared chat channels. Eve alliances should be hiring mercs to fight the mercs hired by other alliances. This would be like FW, but the battles need to be fought over something the major null sec alliances care about. It will be disruptive, and risky, but it isn't just a headline feature, it's the only thing Legion will have that no-one else can offer. This. CCP is (most likely) not gonna compete with other shooters just being another shooter-it needs to rock out on it's most unique and industry defining characteristic...it's link eve online. If Legion can establish ( meaning full / interesting / fun ) interaction with eve online, that will draw players and buy ccp time to learn to improve and expand on the shooter side. I'd really like to hear that legion devs have had some long talks and meetings with eve devs on where and how they can establish some link point and build something around systems in eve online rather than build a separate game and 'then' try to plug it into whatever it can with eve online. plenty of ideas have been thrown around since dust's inception revolving around P.I., exploration, sov, and the market in eve. Yet has there been any collaboration with those in charge/developing eve-side of overhauling an existing system (PI, exploration, sov, fw) or implementing any new systems in eve online that will function with legion? I think there needs to be a yes answered somewhere up there before they get too far building the other things that should be in place for a strong start: -NPE through PVE -a solid core gunplay foundation (hit detection, sensitivity, customizable controls) -player market -PVP (some base form of pvp needs to be there out the gate) -a foundation for E-war...not just pew pew mechanics.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2344	Posted - 2014.05.13 00:41:00 - [38] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: A PS4 Port Not a chance.
emm kay Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives 82	Posted - 2014.05.13 01:10:00 - [39] - Quote Legion must not launch without: - Fully developed racial items (vehicles, suits, weapons, and equipment for every single one of them) - Charecter transfers from dust514 - PVE - Remade skill tree - fixed P.C. or equivalent - APIs for us programmers. - more corporation roles - a great connection with EvE - a solid financial foundation - dedication from CCP -- You called, sir?
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2867	Posted - 2014.05.13 01:14:00 - [40] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: In my opinion based on right now. Legion must not launch without the following. Player Markets NPE Tutorial on Combat NPE Tutorial on Game Systems PVE PVP Your turn. I think you've pretty much got it. Racial parity on existing assets like vehicles and heavy weaponry would be nice too but this game only needs a basic set of features imo. The biggest thing we need is better frame rates and smoother controls. As long as I have that I could even play the current game as it is to be honest...

501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 175	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:11:00 - [41] - Quote PVE\ Dedication from CCP, seriously you won't be able to pull another Dust with this game. It has to be all your stops or nothing. *******Talking between Devs, CPM and Community with comprehensive feedback Full Racial Parity A meaningful Eve Link, not events but something that can always affect Eve Ships need minerals, but have a Dust Merc capture the outpost means you can always get minerals from it, or increase the amount you get and resources A solid currency rate between two, so Legion Mercs get rich, and Eve Players can still laugh at their trillions of Isk I will buy a PC for this game, but this has to be right. Let's make it so From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10235	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:14:00 - [42] - Quote Vehicle Parity Weapon Parity Player Market Refreshed UI that makes us feel like mercenaries (anyone who has played ArmorCore Verdict Day knows what I mean) NPE Removal of the current iteration of PC Markdown:
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2620	Posted - 2014.05.13 05:59:00 - [43] - Quote ...marketing?! This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 211	Posted - 2014.05.13 06:10:00 - [44] - Quote A paint job,that I can do Blood drops from my gun
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14980	Posted - 2014.05.13 07:14:00 - [45] - Quote Racial Parity Envirionments; I want my amarr buildings amarrdammit and matari ones as well. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3375	Posted - 2014.05.13 09:11:00 - [46] - Quote Putting this in the index next update. I personally want to see some new starter fits, maybe more militia items, and absolutely a focus on PVE 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14989	Posted - 2014.05.13 15:26:00 - [47] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Putting this in the index next update. I personally want to see some new starter fits, maybe more militia items, and absolutely a focus on PVE /me jots down to give to someone working on dust 514. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
VicBoss Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 449	Posted - 2014.05.13 15:30:00 - [48] - Quote Commander Mode
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 495	Posted - 2014.05.14 02:49:00 - [49] - Quote VicBoss wrote: Commander Mode I don't understand why these things are so hard for CCP to develop and deploy. We should have had something like Commander Mode, it was talked about from the very beginning. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15014	Posted - 2014.05.14 03:17:00 - [50] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: VicBoss wrote: Commander Mode I don't understand why these things are so hard for CCP to develop and deploy. We should have had something like Commander Mode, it was talked about from the very beginning. I blame lack on focus. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9645	Posted - 2014.05.14 04:40:00 - [51] - Quote A Plasma Cannon that is actually scary if within range, rather than a joke. When I'm in a tank: "lol @ plc" When I'm in a tank against 2 PLC's: "lol @ plc" When I'm in a tank against 3 PLC's: "Aww, damn PLC, now I have to get out or else a forge might take me out" Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 288	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:05:00 - [52] - Quote John Psi wrote: Player Markets - yes NPE Tutorial on Combat - can wait NPE Tutorial on Game Systems - can wait PVE - can wait longtime PVP - balance and stable NPE can wait?... Can it wait until everyone stomps the hell outta of new players, causing them to leave? Can't wait for PVE, why? because i cant No wait for those things, because without them legion is basically dust with a player market
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 983	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:34:00 - [53] - Quote Legion must not launch without: Customizable Maps & Match Settings (Arena Battles) Tools, give us the tools to create. Buy a man a fish (give us content) and feed us for a night...Teach a man to fish (give us tools to create content) and feed us for life NPE (Better New Player Experience --> Tutorials) PVP PVE Best Idea For Legion
Kasira Vorrikesh Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:37:00 - [54] - Quote Anyone mention character creation as good/better than EVE's? Anyone? hologram of a tumbleweed blows by Alright, fine, PVE at least. Good PVE.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 529	Posted - 2014.05.21 23:56:00 - [55] - Quote Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: Anyone mention character creation as good/better than EVE's? Anyone? hologram of a tumbleweed blows by Alright, fine, PVE at least. Good PVE. I would bet on a copy-paste of the Eve character-creator. It seems so likely that it wasn't worth mentioning...but now that you mention it, social areas where we are not shooting eachother would make it feel like an MMO, with other people in it. I've had a random in my squad ask if we were fighting bots or people. I had to insist that there's no bots anywhere. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Vordred Knight Dark Pheonix Armada 189	Posted - 2014.05.22 00:20:00 - [56] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: In my opinion based on right now. Legion must not launch without the following. Player Markets NPE Tutorial on Combat NPE Tutorial on Game Systems PVE PVP Your turn. Agreed Markdown:
Vordred Knight Dark Pheonix Armada 189	Posted - 2014.05.22 00:25:00 - [57] - Quote MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEA MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Markdown:
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2389	Posted - 2014.05.22 00:27:00 - [58] - Quote Social areas. I've been waiting since Incarna dammit click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Vordred Knight Dark Pheonix Armada 189	Posted - 2014.05.22 00:33:00 - [59] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Social areas. Incarna Markdown:
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 221	Posted - 2014.05.22 01:38:00 - [60] - Quote Integration between EVE and Legion. As a minimum it should be exactly as we have now. Shared chat channels, corps, planetary bombardment and planetary conquest. I would like to see improved visibility of the greater EVE universe in both games. This could be from shared social spaces, or just being able to view Legion assets and avatars as item previews (much as we can already in EVE). There needs to be some sort of indication to EVE players that Legion players exist and are doing stuff (tm) and vice versa. Personally I think the monitor in the captains/merc quarters would be ideal for that.



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