DUST Search - here is how to fix framerate ccp

Thurak1 wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Lynn Beck wrote:

Make audio Trigger from the client, not from the network.

Currently the network tells our client EVERYTHING.

'That guy is shooting. That guy is shooting a lazer rifle. It makes laser rifle sounds.'

'That is a nanohive. It makes sounds. They also make bubbles'

It should be 'there is a K-2 Nanohive.' Client says 'oh. K-2 nano makes this sound. K-2 nano makes this bubble with that sound.'

Likewise with weaponry, 'that guy is shooting X weapon' is all the client should need to know.

'Laser shooting 30m to my left? Alright, i'll pull X sound clip and play it at X balance(L,R) with X intensity, and i'll add a Laz0r beam to that.'

Saves a lot of lag.

Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now.

Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy.

The network traffic that you're talking about is called server-side authority. It means that the server doesn't trust the clients, and so, the server duplicates the gameplay on the server (sans graphics and sounds of course). This is an anti-cheat measure, and it needs to stay.

Sony already has strong anti cheat technology. They actively seek out consoles running modded operating systems and ban them.
They also introduced kerberos authentication after anon hacked the network.

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jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1483	Posted - 2014.05.12 13:44:00 - [1] - Quote Delete most of the outside of the map, so it frees memory Much easy Very simple Wow. Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1483	Posted - 2014.05.12 13:59:00 - [2] - Quote Seriously its so easy Who cares if we see nothing now at a certain point, its freeing memory. Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 438	Posted - 2014.05.12 15:13:00 - [3] - Quote Or they could hire someone from Dice or Zipper who knows how to code properly for the PS3 Nova Knives are magic~ Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14921	Posted - 2014.05.12 15:16:00 - [4] - Quote or crank up the LOD out there much higher would likely work as well. However from what I understand they use an occlusion method that doesn't bother drawing things you cant even see so it would only seem to drag down the frame rates if you spin around really fast or had an extended zoom out and behind increasing field of zoom. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1485	Posted - 2014.05.12 15:45:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: or crank up the LOD out there much higher would likely work as well. However from what I understand they use an occlusion method that doesn't bother drawing things you cant even see so it would only seem to drag down the frame rates if you spin around really fast or had an extended zoom out and behind increasing field of zoom. It would still free up memory. Lod? Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2329	Posted - 2014.05.12 16:54:00 - [6] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: or crank up the LOD out there much higher would likely work as well. However from what I understand they use an occlusion method that doesn't bother drawing things you cant even see so it would only seem to drag down the frame rates if you spin around really fast or had an extended zoom out and behind increasing field of zoom. It would still free up memory. Lod? So really, you're trying to tell CCP how to free up memory, and you have no idea what LOD is? This is why these forums have always been pretty counterproductive.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1485	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:17:00 - [7] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: or crank up the LOD out there much higher would likely work as well. However from what I understand they use an occlusion method that doesn't bother drawing things you cant even see so it would only seem to drag down the frame rates if you spin around really fast or had an extended zoom out and behind increasing field of zoom. It would still free up memory. Lod? So really, you're trying to tell CCP how to free up memory, and you have no idea what LOD is? This is why these forums have always been pretty counterproductive. What is lod But removing big part of the map would help. Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
Marc Rime 394	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:33:00 - [8] - Quote This thread made me realise why a lot of devs prefer to ignore suggestions posted on their forums ;).
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1485	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:39:00 - [9] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: This thread made me realise why a lot of devs prefer to ignore suggestions posted on their forums ;). Lol what it would help ram, it still has to load the stuff. Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
Son Down SamsClub 136	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:55:00 - [10] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: This thread made me realise why a lot of devs prefer to ignore suggestions posted on their forums ;). Winner! Took awhile...but, Winner!!!

lampwizard Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.05.12 21:03:00 - [11] - Quote Stop posting in blue or whitetag threads. It is a complete waste and the nontag threads are all that's relevant. 8==D -- a tagholder wrote: hold that wrote: Lazor focus these nuts.
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1667	Posted - 2014.05.12 21:30:00 - [12] - Quote Make audio Trigger from the client, not from the network. Currently the network tells our client EVERYTHING. 'That guy is shooting. That guy is shooting a lazer rifle. It makes laser rifle sounds.' 'That is a nanohive. It makes sounds. They also make bubbles' It should be 'there is a K-2 Nanohive.' Client says 'oh. K-2 nano makes this sound. K-2 nano makes this bubble with that sound.' Likewise with weaponry, 'that guy is shooting X weapon' is all the client should need to know. 'Laser shooting 30m to my left? Alright, i'll pull X sound clip and play it at X balance(L,R) with X intensity, and i'll add a Laz0r beam to that.' Saves a lot of lag. Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now. Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2731	Posted - 2014.05.12 21:40:00 - [13] - Quote Reduce texture resolution. By a large amount. There is no reason for there to be 2000x2000 textures for a concrete wall or a metal plate or a light fixture.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1045	Posted - 2014.05.12 21:49:00 - [14] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: . . . Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now. Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy. Can't comment the other things, but this is obvious. It's painful to hear 6+ hives in close proximity. :-S
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2341	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:00:00 - [15] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Make audio Trigger from the client, not from the network. Currently the network tells our client EVERYTHING. 'That guy is shooting. That guy is shooting a lazer rifle. It makes laser rifle sounds.' 'That is a nanohive. It makes sounds. They also make bubbles' It should be 'there is a K-2 Nanohive.' Client says 'oh. K-2 nano makes this sound. K-2 nano makes this bubble with that sound.' Likewise with weaponry, 'that guy is shooting X weapon' is all the client should need to know. 'Laser shooting 30m to my left? Alright, i'll pull X sound clip and play it at X balance(L,R) with X intensity, and i'll add a Laz0r beam to that.' Saves a lot of lag. Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now. Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy. The network traffic that you're talking about is called server-side authority. It means that the server doesn't trust the clients, and so, the server duplicates the gameplay on the server (sans graphics and sounds of course). This is an anti-cheat measure, and it needs to stay.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 663	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:30:00 - [16] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Make audio Trigger from the client, not from the network. Currently the network tells our client EVERYTHING. 'That guy is shooting. That guy is shooting a lazer rifle. It makes laser rifle sounds.' 'That is a nanohive. It makes sounds. They also make bubbles' It should be 'there is a K-2 Nanohive.' Client says 'oh. K-2 nano makes this sound. K-2 nano makes this bubble with that sound.' Likewise with weaponry, 'that guy is shooting X weapon' is all the client should need to know. 'Laser shooting 30m to my left? Alright, i'll pull X sound clip and play it at X balance(L,R) with X intensity, and i'll add a Laz0r beam to that.' Saves a lot of lag. Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now. Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy. The network traffic that you're talking about is called server-side authority. It means that the server doesn't trust the clients, and so, the server duplicates the gameplay on the server (sans graphics and sounds of course). This is an anti-cheat measure, and it needs to stay. Sony already has strong anti cheat technology. They actively seek out consoles running modded operating systems and ban them. They also introduced kerberos authentication after anon hacked the network.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2341	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:38:00 - [17] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Make audio Trigger from the client, not from the network. Currently the network tells our client EVERYTHING. 'That guy is shooting. That guy is shooting a lazer rifle. It makes laser rifle sounds.' 'That is a nanohive. It makes sounds. They also make bubbles' It should be 'there is a K-2 Nanohive.' Client says 'oh. K-2 nano makes this sound. K-2 nano makes this bubble with that sound.' Likewise with weaponry, 'that guy is shooting X weapon' is all the client should need to know. 'Laser shooting 30m to my left? Alright, i'll pull X sound clip and play it at X balance(L,R) with X intensity, and i'll add a Laz0r beam to that.' Saves a lot of lag. Also, when excessive amounts of Nanohives are nearby, make them into 1, deeper sound. Not this clusterfuck of 32 different nanohive sounds we have now. Yes you will have to open a Audio tool and play 3 nanohive sounds at the same time, and press record. Excuse me if that's too much work for your 'no client updates' policy. The network traffic that you're talking about is called server-side authority. It means that the server doesn't trust the clients, and so, the server duplicates the gameplay on the server (sans graphics and sounds of course). This is an anti-cheat measure, and it needs to stay. Sony already has strong anti cheat technology. They actively seek out consoles running modded operating systems and ban them. They also introduced kerberos authentication after anon hacked the network. That's not the same thing. That's reactive. Server side authentication is proactive. You need both.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1687	Posted - 2014.05.12 23:43:00 - [18] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: or crank up the LOD out there much higher would likely work as well. However from what I understand they use an occlusion method that doesn't bother drawing things you cant even see so it would only seem to drag down the frame rates if you spin around really fast or had an extended zoom out and behind increasing field of zoom. It would still free up memory. Lod? LOD= level of detail. I'm expecting with all the hype that legion has, and CCP amazing fps exp that legion will have the lod of DAYZ. and run just as smoothly. messed up what?
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 765	Posted - 2014.05.13 00:35:00 - [19] - Quote Heh. "It'll fix the FPS, free up memory" You have no idea what you're talking about. TDBS "Does Krin want his gun back?" - sub random nub
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 412	Posted - 2014.05.13 00:36:00 - [20] - Quote Remove the 1080p option in your PS3s registry. Fixed 720p cap improves my framerate.

Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1670	Posted - 2014.05.13 20:55:00 - [21] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Remove the 1080p option in your PS3s registry. Fixed 720p cap improves my framerate. I play using the Ps2 output into a CRT TV. I still get 5-10 FPS in nano spam/gallente reasearch General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1488	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:17:00 - [22] - Quote Put all graphic settings on low in dust options Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1195	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:34:00 - [23] - Quote Lol at CCP fixing anything.
Patrick57 7508	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:34:00 - [24] - Quote lol.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1489	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:39:00 - [25] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: lol. The map is loaded in memory is it not? Closed beta vet. I hardly play dust now.


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