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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:14:00 -
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Get rid of the generic 1.7 vehicles while you can, it ruins diversity and is not anywhere near as customisable or unique as infantry or eve online. Current AV vs 1.6 vehicles would be balanced as you can't have 1 guy in a LAV drive up to your tank , lay down nanohives and spam av nades are you not being able to accelerate away fast enough.
My suggestion? - Bring back pre 1.7 vehicles, - A fully proto fit standard tank should cost 1 mil at the max with 3 turrets. with of course proto tanks of the future costing an upwards of 2.5mil. - Keep ammunition.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
2952
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:17:00 -
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I wonder if they will tie discussions of meta level matchmaking into the context of they types of vehicles you can bring into "tournament matches"
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
607
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:18:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Get rid of the generic 1.7 vehicles while you can, it ruins diversity and is not anywhere near as customisable or unique as infantry or eve online. Current AV vs 1.6 vehicles would be balanced as you can't have 1 guy in a LAV drive up to your tank , lay down nanohives and spam av nades are you not being able to accelerate away fast enough.
My suggestion? - Bring back pre 1.7 vehicles, - A fully proto fit standard tank should cost 1 mil at the max with 3 turrets. with of course proto tanks of the future costing an upwards of 2.5mil. - Keep ammunition. I think this will be the start of a great love story between you and Lorhak Gannarsein.
Oh btw I agree with your post! +1
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:19:00 -
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Vehicles are fine, they just need minor adjustments.
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
495
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:30:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:Vehicles are fine, they just need minor adjustments.
Considering you have only played for 5 days, you should get more in-game experience rather than playing forum warriors. I played for about 11 months before I made my first post on the forums.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Heligg
Bite et Couteau
27
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:03:00 -
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I just want to advertize my thread to sugest a totaly new vehicule vs infantry rebalance .
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
186
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:06:00 -
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I want tanks so fast that they can fly if there is so much as a pebble within a 5 mile radius.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2028
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:21:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:I wonder if they will tie discussions of meta level matchmaking into the context of they types of vehicles you can bring into "tournament matches" I think that they are removing tiers anyway, and going for the Tech system, with all the Tech 1 stuff relatively similar, with Tech 2 being costly to lose, but worth it in a pinch.
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2176
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:47:00 -
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lolno
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5256
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:00:00 -
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I would be totally find with an Enforcer or Marauder costing 2 mil or above to fully fit out.
I've always figured they'd bring the Enforcers back similar to how they were, and bring the Marauders back with Defense bonuses only, so you pick one or the other.
It'd also be a nice way to address how right now a tank hull costs a third of what an Assault Dropship costs, when it's no contest which one is more beefy and dangerous.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2176
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:11:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I would be totally find with an Enforcer or Marauder costing 2 mil or above to fully fit out. I've always figured they'd bring the Enforcers back similar to how they were, and bring the Marauders back with Defense bonuses only, so you pick one or the other. It'd also be a nice way to address how right now a tank hull costs a third of what an Assault Dropship costs, when it's no contest which one is more beefy and dangerous.
put a damage mod or two on a Python and a missile, then fight a Maddy and see what happens.
I call bullshit on the dangerous part.
click me
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:20:00 -
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I agree totally w/ OP, although I'm finding success in slightly unconventional setups (for pubbing, however, where it is easier of course to kill all the scrubs; haven't played a PC in a while now).
I miss my Vayu, and with my newfound love for missiles, I kind of want a Falchion to play with...
And maybe we could get the Surya and Sagaris back?
I would be overjoyed with a rollback to 1.6 vehicles and a 1.7 pricing scheme (with a slight rebalance to shield vehicles; they were truly inferior).
Godin Thekiller wrote:put a damage mod or two on a Python and a missile, then fight a Maddy and see what happens.
I call bullshit on the dangerous part.
"Beefy and dangerous" ergo your comment is irrelevant.
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
643
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:29:00 -
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CCP, my frig can't solo a BS! Plz fix game!
[edit] Oops. I thought this was generic vehicle whining thread.
PCMasterRace
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
3352
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:34:00 -
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What if vehicles were BPOs just like dropsuits in Legion, but the things you put on them would be the expensive part.
They already stated that the balance between infantry AV and vehicles is something they still want to look at. I personally just want to be able to kill mlt tanks with 3 AV grenades like I used to be able to do. Same thing with mlt LAVs.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
139
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:50:00 -
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Big maps, big teams equals tanks being absolute god mode. If you still have a problem with tanks on maps four times the size of the maps now and teams big enough to sit on every objective full time then you really are just a TANKOPHOBE.
If they don't have maps and teams that big then they have no excuse to have switched this to a PC.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
99
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:59:00 -
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I invested in AV that works for me with my skill points and have no problem deterring tanks or blowing them up.
you should find a AV method that suits you.
I don't even know why I bother.
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Joseph Tasun
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.05.10 06:10:00 -
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My opinion.
With Larger maps, HAVs should actually be MORE powerful against infy. Infantry should not take on a tank directly. LAVs are fine as they are. HAVs should be given a dedicated AA turret option (Autocannon/Missile probably). All Vehicle Recall Timers should actually be timers. Queue more air variety with larger maps. Deliver the MTAC for Urban combat.
With smaller maps, everything is fairly fine as it is. Do not deliver fighter or MTAC, this will imbalance/saturate. |
Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
503
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:17:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:lolno
was it not you who was asking for pre 1.7 vehicles besides me as well? make up your mind already jeez.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:48:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Phoenix 85 wrote:Vehicles are fine, they just need minor adjustments. Considering you have only played for 5 days, you should get more in-game experience rather than playing forum warriors. I played for about 11 months before I made my first post on the forums.
Yea, because noone has to make alts because their main is banned. Ive been here 2+ years. Go stuff yourself.
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2178
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Posted - 2014.05.10 17:26:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:lolno was it not you who was asking for pre 1.7 vehicles besides me as well? make up your mind already jeez.
No, as pre-1.7 vehicles were **** against AV.
this is what I asked for.
click me
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
507
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Posted - 2014.05.10 18:06:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Evolution-7 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:lolno was it not you who was asking for pre 1.7 vehicles besides me as well? make up your mind already jeez. No, as pre-1.7 vehicles were **** against AV. this is what I asked for.
exactly, thats exactly what i said, 1.7 av verses 1.7/1.8 av would be balanced, read the post again.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.10 18:09:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:I invested in AV that works for me with my skill points and have no problem deterring tanks or blowing them up.
you should find a AV method that suits you.
The amount of people who post without reading on the motherfucking forums kills me, i really am not going to bother posting **** here anymore.
Not pointing at you although your part of them, but the wider community.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:09:00 -
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Hope you are reading this CCP.
Legion on PS4
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10392
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Posted - 2014.06.02 21:50:00 -
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Additionally bring back the requirements of fitting small turrets to reduce the possibility of stacking modules in ways the developers never intended. This would IMO, and since I currently already do this, get players manning the small turrets making ground vehicles multi-player crewed platforms.
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
3006
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Additionally bring back the requirements of fitting small turrets to reduce the possibility of stacking modules in ways the developers never intended. This would IMO, and since I currently already do this, get players manning the small turrets making ground vehicles multi-player crewed platforms.
No need for making small turrets required on HAVs. Just nerf the large blaster against infantry and allow HAVs the option of fitting small turrets for anti-infantry or fitting better modules for pure anti-tank.
Options are good, requirements are not. |
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