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Jak'Saan
Ancient Exiles.
192
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:27:00 -
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I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. |
Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
69
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:29:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working.
I too work a job where I use a computer. But I don't feel like I'm working while gaming on the PC. Then again I first started gaming on the PC so...
Come Join the War
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3232
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:32:00 -
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I don't think people hate it because it's going to PC over console, just the way it was presented.
If they wouldn't have done it the way they did it, I'm sure that at least PC owners would support Legion(with a full SP transition) instead of EVE only players who waited for this from the beginning.
Personally, I'm butthurt because the news emptied the servers and don't own a PC(anymore)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
2100
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:32:00 -
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it's not really about that either. it's more about the fact that many DUST players don't have PCs capable of running Legion. i mean come on, when you think about it, we wouldn't be playing a laggy free to play game with little development if we just had money falling from our pockets.
I'm not speaking for everyone, but it feels like the game we were promised, the game we supported this game for 2 years for is not even going to be available to a large portion of the community who supported this game, no matter how bad it was.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1692
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:35:00 -
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Actually Cody allot of us are passed off as we expected to follow dust to the ps4 not to pc as allot of this community are consol gamers.
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3234
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:39:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Actually Cody allot of us are passed off as we expected to follow dust to the ps4 not to pc as allot of this community are consol gamers. As am I. A PS4 version is what I was waiting for as well.
Non-PC gamers aren't gonna be happy with the end result, but they could have done this a little better so we at least have a game to play for the next year or so while Legion is being worked on.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1692
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:44:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Actually Cody allot of us are passed off as we expected to follow dust to the ps4 not to pc as allot of this community are consol gamers. As am I. A PS4 version is what I was waiting for as well. Non-PC gamers aren't gonna be happy with the end result, but they could have done this a little better so we at least have a game to play for the next year or so while Legion is being worked on.
CCP has handed this really badly .. Firstly by introducing legion in the dust keynote section and secondly by moving to pc in the hopes of gaining more custom(and thusly cutting out a large portion of their player base)
I for one will not go out and buy a gaming pc just for legion . I'll just move to the ps4 along with all the other consol gamers.
I'm also really peeved because I have 4 closed beta merc packs and an elite pack so what happens to my bpos that I bought under the premise that CCP had a 10 year plan for dust on the consol market .
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Jak'Saan
Ancient Exiles.
195
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:45:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote: I too work a job where I use a computer. But I don't feel like I'm working while gaming on the PC. Then again I first started gaming on the PC so...
I work from home. So my office would become my gaming room. I may as well become a hermit and never shower. Why not put a bed and fridge in here. Have my groceries delivered and eat on paper plates... pc gaming sucks.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2845
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:50:00 -
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I tried Planetside 2 yesterday on my iMac (the one I use at home): it couldn't handle low quality settings. :( I paid it 1500Gé¼ two years ago ffs.
Still it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt...what the...
I wonder if they made this decision because of the Nvidia "partnership".
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Rupture Reaperson
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
330
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I tried Planetside 2 yesterday on my iMac (the one I use at home): it couldn't handle low quality settings. :( I paid it 1500Gé¼ two years ago ffs.
Still it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt...what the... What is this?... oh I see.. yes yes... THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:my iMac ... Who sane person buys those things for gaming... or buy them at all for that matter?
FYI: I have a gaming rig, but wont be playing dust... i just dont caaaaaare about eve, take the effin hint.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2270
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I tried Planetside 2 yesterday on my iMac (the one I use at home): it couldn't handle low quality settings. :( I paid it 1500Gé¼ two years ago ffs.
Still it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt...what the...
I wonder if they made this decision because of the Nvidia "partnership". IMac. There's your problem. Are you trolling, or serious? |
Ric Barlom
400
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:58:00 -
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I feel you, bro. I really do. Nothing beats sitting down on that lazy boy chair after a long day of sitting on a crappy Dell PC, slaving away.
Who gave out my Monday to Friday phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2845
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:03:00 -
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No, I'm not trolling. I spent a lot of money on that and I'm not going to spend anything else for a PC/Mac, considering it works great for my work. If I'll want to play some games, I'll buy a console.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2845
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I tried Planetside 2 yesterday on my iMac (the one I use at home): it couldn't handle low quality settings. :( I paid it 1500Gé¼ two years ago ffs.
Still it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt...what the... What is this?... oh I see.. yes yes... THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:my iMac ... Who sane person buys those things for gaming... or buy them at all for that matter? FYI: I have a gaming rig, but wont be playing dust... i just dont caaaaaare about eve, take the effin hint.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt
You can easily understand why I bought an iMac ^
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:06:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long... 25 inches isn't bad. Some prefer bigger, but really it has more to do with how you use it.
Resolution is more important than size, anyway.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14810
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:06:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working.
Uhm... most modern TVs can accept computer signals... hell been able to do that for 10 years with old analog signals.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2845
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. Uhm... most modern TVs can accept computer signals... hell been able to do that for 10 years with old analog signals; also its is becomming more and more common these days as the computer device can serve as the multimedia machine like netflix; hulu and the like.
Let's be honest IWS, you own a gaming rig, don't you?
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Ric Barlom
400
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. Uhm... most modern TVs can accept computer signals... hell been able to do that for 10 years with old analog signals; also its is becomming more and more common these days as the computer device can serve as the multimedia machine like netflix; hulu and the like. No offence, bro, and you know I love you as a CPM Wolf, but anyone who starts a post with the word "Uhm" sounds like a grade A douchebag where I come from.
Who gave out my Monday to Friday phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
270
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:11:00 -
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I keep hearing that Legion won't even be released for 2 - 3 years, at best, so hopefully in that time there will be numerous other, wonderful franchises to eclipse whatever hype Legion is getting atm. |
Jak'Saan
Ancient Exiles.
200
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Uhm... most modern TVs can accept computer signals... hell been able to do that for 10 years with old analog signals; also its is becomming more and more common these days as the computer device can serve as the multimedia machine like netflix; hulu and the like.
Hey IBS, it is truly unfortunate that among the many talents and abilities that you continue to demonstrate in this forum, none of them include the ability to read. Douche-baggery is no substitute for a grade 1 education.
Jak'Saan wrote: And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
605
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:27:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's not really about that either. it's more about the fact that many DUST players don't have PCs capable of running Legion. i mean come on, when you think about it, we wouldn't be playing a laggy free to play game with little development if we just had money falling from our pockets.
I'm not speaking for everyone, but it feels like the game we were promised, the game we supported this game for 2 years for is not even going to be available to a large portion of the community who supported this game, no matter how bad it was.
And do you think many EVE players had a console with which they could play DUST on when it was announced that it was going to be on PS3 and not PC originally? |
inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:53:00 -
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It looks like **** to be honest with you. |
inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:58:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's not really about that either. it's more about the fact that many DUST players don't have PCs capable of running Legion. i mean come on, when you think about it, we wouldn't be playing a laggy free to play game with little development if we just had money falling from our pockets.
I'm not speaking for everyone, but it feels like the game we were promised, the game we supported this game for 2 years for is not even going to be available to a large portion of the community who supported this game, no matter how bad it was. And do you think many EVE players had a console with which they could play DUST on when it was announced that it was going to be on PS3 and not PC originally? That is really not an excuse dude ps3's are way cheaper than PC's they could of easily picked one up instead of constantly throwing ccp money.
Quote:Sony PlayStation 3 (2012) official press shots. 250GB of memory is cheap, as is 500GB. Like, under $100 cheap (Sony itself prices the standalone 250GB HDD at around $116). The new PS3 models cost $270 and $300, respectively. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:18:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's not really about that either. it's more about the fact that many DUST players don't have PCs capable of running Legion. i mean come on, when you think about it, we wouldn't be playing a laggy free to play game with little development if we just had money falling from our pockets.
I'm not speaking for everyone, but it feels like the game we were promised, the game we supported this game for 2 years for is not even going to be available to a large portion of the community who supported this game, no matter how bad it was. And do you think many EVE players had a console with which they could play DUST on when it was announced that it was going to be on PS3 and not PC originally? That is really not an excuse dude ps3's are way cheaper than PC's they could of easily picked one up instead of constantly throwing ccp money. Quote:Sony PlayStation 3 (2012) official press shots. 250GB of memory is cheap, as is 500GB. Like, under $100 cheap (Sony itself prices the standalone 250GB HDD at around $116). The new PS3 models cost $270 and $300, respectively. Quote:Is an official PlayStation 3 price drop looming? Perhaps new SKUs are on the horizon? Two retailers have dropped the price of the PS3 from $249 to $199. Look at these prices and lets compare it to the cost of a decent gaming pc. The difference is that a decent gaming PC will last. PS3s are obsolete hardware.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:23:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:inohahna mamotto wrote:That is really not an excuse dude ps3's are way cheaper than PC's they could of easily picked one up instead of constantly throwing ccp money. Quote:Sony PlayStation 3 (2012) official press shots. 250GB of memory is cheap, as is 500GB. Like, under $100 cheap (Sony itself prices the standalone 250GB HDD at around $116). The new PS3 models cost $270 and $300, respectively. Quote:Is an official PlayStation 3 price drop looming? Perhaps new SKUs are on the horizon? Two retailers have dropped the price of the PS3 from $249 to $199. Look at these prices and lets compare it to the cost of a decent gaming pc. The difference is that a decent gaming PC will last. PS3s are obsolete hardware.
If this is your comeback am then i am greatly disappointed in youhttp://www.quickmeme.com/img/9f/9f942bfe3b2820f6a55b3e1aa0e80f4430bac07f6f41f6f84bbad5adf88f807a.jpg especially since you failed to see the point in my post. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:27:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:inohahna mamotto wrote:That is really not an excuse dude ps3's are way cheaper than PC's they could of easily picked one up instead of constantly throwing ccp money. Quote:Sony PlayStation 3 (2012) official press shots. 250GB of memory is cheap, as is 500GB. Like, under $100 cheap (Sony itself prices the standalone 250GB HDD at around $116). The new PS3 models cost $270 and $300, respectively. Quote:Is an official PlayStation 3 price drop looming? Perhaps new SKUs are on the horizon? Two retailers have dropped the price of the PS3 from $249 to $199. Look at these prices and lets compare it to the cost of a decent gaming pc. The difference is that a decent gaming PC will last. PS3s are obsolete hardware. If this is your comeback then i am greatly disappointed in you http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9f/9f942bfe3b2820f6a55b3e1aa0e80f4430bac07f6f41f6f84bbad5adf88f807a.jpg especially since you failed to see the point in my post. Comeback? What comeback? I have nothing invested in this argument. Hell, I wasn't even in this argument.
I just felt like pointing out a difference between the two since you were doing the same.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5359
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:51:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. Uhm... most modern TVs can accept computer signals... hell been able to do that for 10 years with old analog signals; also its is becomming more and more common these days as the computer device can serve as the multimedia machine like netflix; hulu and the like. No offence, bro, and you know I love you as a CPM Wolf, but anyone who starts a post with the word "Uhm" sounds like a grade A douchebag where I come from. We use to beat people up for doing that.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5359
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:53:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:It looks like **** to be honest with you. Looks like a pre alpha version of Black light, but more froo froo. I hope the gameplay is better.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:35:00 -
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IGÇÖve already attempted to propose that the birth of ONE game doesnGÇÖt have to, player-wise or franchise-wise, mean the bleeding and killing of the OTHER game. I do understand that profit and logistics is an essential determinant in what does and doesnGÇÖt HAVE TO be in CCP, but FOUR games in New Eden is not impossible:
Valkyrie seems to have scripted its story well enough to serve as a stand-alone entity that allow players to GÇ£raidGÇ¥ areas of the CapsuleerGÇÖs environment, saying GÇ£we are Valkyrie, and we can sting and rob from you when we pleaseGÇ¥...but it appropriately without having HUGE affects on New EdenGÇÖs starmap. ItGÇÖs a stable existence for both Valkyrie and EVE.
Dust 514 can stay a structured-contract combat game (even if CCP had dreams of making it more with GÇ£soldiersGÇ¥ having a sole side business of sandbox-exploring and looting when not assaulting districts for pay). Stabilize its Planetary Conquest mechanic, and create a simple interface that only enables Mercenaries to accept a posted contract, and Capsuleers to transfer ISK upon contract-completion (donGÇÖt worry about trying to build a Capsuleer-to-Dustmerc goodies market---let the goodies market be Dustmerc-to-Dustmerc only, itGÇÖs easier). In the end Dust can say GÇ£we are DUST, and you need us to take planets and own districts.) Dust would be the only way Capsuleers can HUGELY affect the New Eden starmap.
(Project Legion) can be built to provide the GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ and privateer looting aspect that PS3GÇÖs Dust cannot easily achieve. It doesnGÇÖt NEED to be built with any structured-contract-for-hire gameplay, so Legion CANNOT hugely affect or participate in changing the New Eden starmap and thus wonGÇÖt compete with Dust over the same franchise. Legion should be designed almost strictly to provide individual looting of districts swamped by drones or scarred after a Dust Planetary Conquest event, and LEGION can have the goodies market interface to sell ore-resources AND dropsuit-gear to both Capsuleers and Dustmercs (since neither of us has the mechanics in our games to collect them off the ground). Legion can have a stable co-existence WITH Dust, and can say GÇ£we are Legion, and both Dustmercs and Capsuleers need to come to us in order to purchase valuable salvaged stuffGÇ¥.
By being on PC, Legion gives the PC community the comfort they are entitled to and still allow them GÇ£walk on these worldsGÇ¥ (which is in effect what prompted the whole Dustmerc thing in the first place) without having to further invest in console world if they donGÇÖt want. Capsuleers or Dust lovers can choose the less combat-driven, salvage-profiteer life of Legion by going onto PC. But if they want to be a realtime influence in the wholesale conquest of entire planets/districts, they'll have to play in Dust 514 on console. ValkyrieGÇÖs tiny fightership gameplay can only pillage the STARS of New Eden (but maybe they could be allowed to strafe planets? Hmm...).
Eve-Online Capsuleers are the catalyst that keep the other three games wealthy in loot or ISK.
Four games. One Universe. ...It's Miller Time |
PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:42:00 -
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100% agree with OP, I thought dust was going to open new edens player base. Owning a PC and having 20$ is not a major accomplishment. Many of us could have been playing eve since 2004 but still owned and gamed on consoles, I thought CCP had the "vision" of involving both audiences?
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Rupture Reaperson
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
330
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:54:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: You can easily understand why I bought an iMac ^
Yes, but dont expect to be gaming in that... derp
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Your Absolut End
The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad.
508
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:59:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I tried Planetside 2 yesterday on my iMac (the one I use at home): it couldn't handle low quality settings. :( I paid it 1500Gé¼ two years ago ffs.
Still it can handle Reason 5 in rewire mode with Logic Pro X and NI Kontakt...what the...
I wonder if they made this decision because of the Nvidia "partnership".
Mac is not made for gaming. Its made for graphics programs and to kmpress your Hipster friends qhile listening to Morissey and talk about who has the most fancy dressscode tonight.
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Atikali Havendoorr
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:27:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:IGÇÖve already attempted to propose that the birth of ONE game doesnGÇÖt have to, player-wise or franchise-wise, mean the bleeding and killing of the OTHER game. I do understand that profit and logistics is an essential determinant in what does and doesnGÇÖt HAVE TO be in CCP, but FOUR games in New Eden is not impossible: Valkyrie seems to have scripted its story well enough to serve as a stand-alone entity that allow players to GÇ£raidGÇ¥ areas of the CapsuleerGÇÖs environment, saying GÇ£we are Valkyrie, and we can sting and rob from you when we pleaseGÇ¥...but it appropriately without having HUGE affects on New EdenGÇÖs starmap. ItGÇÖs a stable existence for both Valkyrie and EVE. Dust 514 can stay a structured-contract combat game (even if CCP had dreams of making it more with GÇ£soldiersGÇ¥ having a sole side business of sandbox-exploring and looting when not assaulting districts for pay). Stabilize its Planetary Conquest mechanic, and create a simple interface that only enables Mercenaries to accept a posted contract, and Capsuleers to transfer ISK upon contract-completion (donGÇÖt worry about trying to build a Capsuleer-to-Dustmerc goodies market---let the goodies market be Dustmerc-to-Dustmerc only, itGÇÖs easier). In the end Dust can say GÇ£we are DUST, and you need us to take planets and own districts.) Dust would be the only way Capsuleers can HUGELY affect the New Eden starmap. (Project Legion) can be built to provide the GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ and privateer looting aspect that PS3GÇÖs Dust cannot easily achieve. It doesnGÇÖt NEED to be built with any structured-contract-for-hire gameplay, so Legion CANNOT hugely affect or participate in changing the New Eden starmap and thus wonGÇÖt compete with Dust over the same franchise. Legion should be designed almost strictly to provide individual looting of districts swamped by drones or scarred after a Dust Planetary Conquest event, and LEGION can have the goodies market interface to sell ore-resources AND dropsuit-gear to both Capsuleers and Dustmercs (since neither of us has the mechanics in our games to collect them off the ground). Legion can have a stable co-existence WITH Dust, and can say GÇ£we are Legion, and both Dustmercs and Capsuleers need to come to us in order to purchase valuable salvaged stuffGÇ¥. By being on PC, Legion gives the PC community the comfort they are entitled to and still allow them GÇ£walk on these worldsGÇ¥ (which is in effect what prompted the whole Dustmerc thing in the first place) without having to further invest in console world if they donGÇÖt want. Capsuleers or Dust lovers can choose the less combat-driven, salvage-profiteer life of Legion by going onto PC. But if they want to be a realtime influence in the wholesale conquest of entire planets/districts, they'll have to play in Dust 514 on console. ValkyrieGÇÖs tiny fightership gameplay can only pillage the STARS of New Eden (but maybe they could be allowed to strafe planets? Hmm...). Eve-Online Capsuleers are the catalyst that keep the other three games wealthy in loot or ISK. Four games. One Universe. ...It's Miller Time Wow, that could be really interesting. But I don't think it's gonna happen. CCP don't have the resources for that.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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inohahna mamotto wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's not really about that either. it's more about the fact that many DUST players don't have PCs capable of running Legion. i mean come on, when you think about it, we wouldn't be playing a laggy free to play game with little development if we just had money falling from our pockets.
I'm not speaking for everyone, but it feels like the game we were promised, the game we supported this game for 2 years for is not even going to be available to a large portion of the community who supported this game, no matter how bad it was. And do you think many EVE players had a console with which they could play DUST on when it was announced that it was going to be on PS3 and not PC originally? That is really not an excuse dude ps3's are way cheaper than PC's they could of easily picked one up instead of constantly throwing ccp money. Quote:Sony PlayStation 3 (2012) official press shots. 250GB of memory is cheap, as is 500GB. Like, under $100 cheap (Sony itself prices the standalone 250GB HDD at around $116). The new PS3 models cost $270 and $300, respectively. Quote:Is an official PlayStation 3 price drop looming? Perhaps new SKUs are on the horizon? Two retailers have dropped the price of the PS3 from $249 to $199. Look at these prices and lets compare it to the cost of a decent gaming pc.
Brosef, PS3 is been out for a long time. Of course its cheap. You can get one anywhere for about 150. It was so expensive when it first arrived. Still dude, its old and walking with a cane.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Dust particles flying through the air and flat volcano pictures in the background look that good to you?
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
607
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Cody Sietz wrote:I don't think people hate it because it's going to PC over console, just the way it was presented.
If they wouldn't have done it the way they did it, I'm sure that at least PC owners would support Legion(with a full SP transition) instead of EVE only players who waited for this from the beginning.
Personally, I'm butthurt because the news emptied the servers and don't own a PC(anymore)
I agree i have both the main reason i wouldnt touch legion is i am still bitter due to thier shoddy handling of dust pr
A laser rifle user for life
Long live the empress burn the heritics
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
420
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I don't think that many people's current attitude towards CCP (and, by extension, Legion) can be so easily simplified to a single reason, but rather is the result of a combination of ALL the various reasons (which I won't bother spending the time listing, I'm sure we all know what they are by now), which have lead to an overall feeling of distrust and cynicism towards CCP.
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Roran Theron
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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I could easily play Legion on my computer... But the fact is - I don't want too.
I completely agree with you guys, sitting at a computer playing an FPS sucks. That's why I have a console I paid $400 for! |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
227
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Roran Theron wrote:I could easily play Legion on my computer... But the fact is - I don't want too.
I completely agree with you guys, sitting at a computer playing an FPS sucks. That's why I have a console I paid $400 for!
Bro, trolls are not good for the kids. Dude, you can get a controller for your PC. It's easy. I don't see no other reason why you would say that.
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Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
41
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Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working.
The bold part doesn't make any sense. You've been playing Dust on your TV, presumably with family around, but you can't play Legion on the TV because there's family around? |
Atikali Havendoorr
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:33:00 -
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Dr Dammit wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. The bold part doesn't make any sense. You've been playing Dust on your TV, presumably with family around, but you can't play Legion on the TV because there's family around? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor
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Jak'Saan
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
228
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Atikali Havendoorr wrote:Dr Dammit wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:I hate the fact that Legion looks so damn good, and that it looks like it will be everything that we dreamed of for Dust, but when it comes down to it, it's about going from playing on a 52" tv to a 25" monitor... at my desk... where I already work... all day long...
And yes I realize I can connect my pc to my TV, but I won't. I have a family.
There is a reason I bought a console, no matter how powerful my pc is. PC gamming feels like working. The bold part doesn't make any sense. You've been playing Dust on your TV, presumably with family around, but you can't play Legion on the TV because there's family around? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor
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