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Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:01:00 - [1] - Quote First mag now dust
Arkena Wyrnspire 13035	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:03:00 - [2] - Quote 'Best' Also, Legion is literally DUST on PC. It's not going away. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:04:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 'Best' Also, Legion is literally DUST on PC. It's not going away. CCP wrote: Legion is a completely different/seperate game than Dust 514 No, Dust is dead. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2942	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:04:00 - [4] - Quote A bunch of reasons that make them not actually the "best"
Seamie Schmoove Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 203	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:04:00 - [5] - Quote This had a long way to go to be considered one of the best but it was certainly the best craic I've had in an Fps in a long time. Playing the game badly since Replication
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2009	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:06:00 - [6] - Quote DUST and best shooter don't deserve to be in the same sentence together, unless isn't is in there too. DUST is a glitchy, unbalanced, stompfest. And it is still here And MAG was Ok, but great is a bit of a stretch There was literally three maps per game mode, and 2 player-driven vehicles. Because you wanted to be something you're not.
Arkena Wyrnspire 13035	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:07:00 - [7] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 'Best' Also, Legion is literally DUST on PC. It's not going away. CCP wrote: Legion is a completely different/seperate game than Dust 514 No, Dust is dead. CCP's PR department is terrible. Everyone knows that. They've confused everyone with this marketing rubbish - presumably to have chances like a new set of reviews. Legion is not genuinely a completely different game. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 555	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:07:00 - [8] - Quote Dust was never even close to being the best
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 969	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:07:00 - [9] - Quote I feel somewhat offended that you include MAG and Dust into the same category. MAG>>>>Dust.
Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:09:00 - [10] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: DUST and best shooter don't deserve to be in the same sentence together, unless isn't is in there too. DUST is a glitchy, unbalanced, stompfest. And it is still here And MAG was Ok, but great is a bit of a stretch There was literally three maps per game mode, and 2 player-driven vehicles. All true but why did i get so addicted? I was crap at both games.

Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:10:00 - [11] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: I feel somewhat offended that you include MAG and Dust into the same category. MAG>>>>Dust. Apologies
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:13:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 'Best' Also, Legion is literally DUST on PC. It's not going away. CCP wrote: Legion is a completely different/seperate game than Dust 514 No, Dust is dead. CCP's PR department is terrible. Everyone knows that. They've confused everyone with this marketing rubbish - presumably to have chances like a new set of reviews. Legion is not genuinely a completely different game. Oh so you are the official PR person now.. ok thanks. No, I think I will go with what the developers said, that Dust is dead and Legion is a different game (even though they look exactly the same). Why would CCP say they are completely different games? So they do not have to transfer BPOs, or SPs, or ISKs, or ASSETS. They still have not made a concrete commitment to what they will transfer, just wishy-washy B.S. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3290	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:17:00 - [13] - Quote Zelda on the original gameboy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magGÇ¦dust Well that was fun
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5507	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:22:00 - [14] - Quote Both games are great concepts. Both games are weak in certain elements of their execution. Both games are lacking in good PR. Both games are good at providing "fun factor" for many of their fans. Both games have suffered the occasional epic fail updates. Brink is another game that fits all of those conditions. Armored Core is a whole franchise dedicated to them, except that series is still going. Maybe some Western devs need to look at what From Software have been doing?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 3876	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote MAG = Overrated. Dust > MAG Come at me bro's Try EVE for free Resub to EVE with exciting account
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 971	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:33:00 - [16] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: MAG = Overrated. Dust > MAG Come at me bro's If you had been able to keep a straight face when writing that, I might have fallen for it.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 749	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:34:00 - [17] - Quote Because they were the worst shooters with the best intentions. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 974	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:47:00 - [18] - Quote Hin Raven wrote: Flyingconejo wrote: I feel somewhat offended that you include MAG and Dust into the same category. MAG>>>>Dust. Apologies It's ok, no one is perfect.
Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:52:00 - [19] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Because they were the worst shooters with the best intentions. Nail on the head
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3292	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:53:00 - [20] - Quote Blacklight retribution is so good though lol. Well that was fun

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2517	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:56:00 - [21] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Zelda on the original gameboy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magGÇ¦dust Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda > MAG > Dust 514
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3292	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:56:00 - [22] - Quote Joel II X wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Zelda on the original gameboy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magGÇ¦dust Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda > MAG > Dust 514 Agreed. Well that was fun
Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:58:00 - [23] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Joel II X wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Zelda on the original gameboy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magGÇ¦dust Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda > MAG > Dust 514 Agreed. yes
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2944	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:59:00 - [24] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Both games are great concepts. Both games are weak in certain elements of their execution. Both games are lacking in good PR. Both games are good at providing "fun factor" for many of their fans. Both games have suffered the occasional epic fail updates. Brink is another game that fits all of those conditions. Armored Core is a whole franchise dedicated to them, except that series is still going. Maybe some Western devs need to look at what From Software have been doing? Everyone needs to look at From Soft, the Souls series is just so good and if I could inject it into my veins I would
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 221	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:00:00 - [25] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Smoke a bowl brosef and chill out. Saying what's on people's minds
Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 108	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:24:00 - [26] - Quote Dust had some issues that scared away new players, and generally ccp marketing is incompetent, Those of us who got into Dust realized that most other fps's got boring really fast compared to Dust. Its a diamond in the rough, with 1080p and steady 60fps (and a player market) Dust would imho be the best fps. If popularity was the only measure then Candy Krush would be the best game on the planet and Justin Bieber would be the best musician on Earth^^ I personally think Legion (Dust 2.0) will take it to the next level, learning from some of the mistakes and gaining access to ALOT more players, and having it on pc makes the vision alot more realistic suddenly.
ACADEMY BOMBER Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:33:00 - [27] - Quote you have a strange taste in what's the best
Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:35:00 - [28] - Quote ACADEMY BOMBER wrote: you have a strange taste in what's the best I also like traffic management sims
THE 2000 SWINE Commando Perkone Caldari State 31	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:36:00 - [29] - Quote Because the games are not laser focused on a particular demographic. Just like in the movie industry you have the action blockbuster, aimed at 12 to 17yr old COD players. then you have plot driven masterworks, for the mature but can appeal to a broad range, BF3 players Then you have the XXX back alley SNUFF film., DUST CCP wrote on heck of a script
Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 109	Posted - 2014.05.07 17:42:00 - [30] - Quote ACADEMY BOMBER wrote: you have a strange taste in what's the best In alot of ways it is, in other ways it failed. The main failures of Dust was (at that time) inexperienced dev (who are now experienced and working on Legion), ps3 hardware, game being virtually abandoned 6 months ago, and incompetent marketing. The concept with skill progression and suit customization and economy was SPOT ON BRILLIANT!, the gun play is good but ruined by low framerate, The matchmaking ruined the game for alot of (especially new) players aswell :( Its still the most fun ive had with a shooter since UT99.



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