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The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3035	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:34:00 - [1] - Quote Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust.
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:57:00 - [2] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. If they were committed to there "vision" yes, if there trying to cut there losses before sinking no. Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8400	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:09:00 - [3] - Quote Possibly. Assuming the PS3 is able to handle the new content without causing serious problems like we had before. However, that user interface will be problematic on a console. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
DR FEB Zero-Day 164	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:36:00 - [4] - Quote problem:legion will be subscriber based and if they send thecontent to dust,console players will play the game for free thus legion will be useless fallout 4 confirmed and being playtested :)
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1333	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:59:00 - [5] - Quote DR FEB wrote: problem:legion will be subscriber based and if they send thecontent to dust,console players will play the game for free thus legion will be useless Legion is f2p with something something.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2009	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:14:00 - [6] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. If they were committed to there "vision" yes, if there trying to cut there losses before sinking no. DUST sunk a LONG time ago, with a skeleton crew staying to go down with the ship. It just wasn't feasible to have the people who actually wanted to play DUST to play it when it was on PS3, as well as the lack of testing server. Ever think that... DUST was just a experiment to see if the console market was what they wanted to put their real game on? Think about it for a moment. Because you wanted to be something you're not.
The-Errorist 682	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:29:00 - [7] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. They don't share the same engine; Dust uses Unreal Engine 3 and Legion uses unreal Engine 4.
Tweaksz Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition 72	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:33:00 - [8] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. They don't share the same engine; Dust uses Unreal Engine 3 and Legion uses unreal Engine 4. You haven't been paying attention. Legion is using a heavily modified version of UE3. EVE: Valkyrie is the one using UE4 Pill Popping Madness!
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 366	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. They don't share the same engine; Dust uses Unreal Engine 3 and Legion uses unreal Engine 4. Not quite, Dust uses UE3, Legion is using UE3(heavily modded by CCP). No word yet if they will be using UE4 at a later date, but with all the modding done in-house the Devs seem quite satisfied to the point where they don't see the need for UE4. Also, no word yet on a pay model (I hope it will stay F2P). The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 84	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:52:00 - [10] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. If they were committed to there "vision" yes, if there trying to cut there losses before sinking no. DUST sunk a LONG time ago, with a skeleton crew staying to go down with the ship. It just wasn't feasible to have the people who actually wanted to play DUST to play it when it was on PS3, as well as the lack of testing server. Ever think that... DUST was just a experiment to see if the console market was what they wanted to put their real game on? Think about it for a moment. Well bravo CCP you've successfully completed your experiment I hope that data is valuable, your name is mud now. Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 569	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:55:00 - [11] - Quote i thought ccp's original dust was built on carbon but carbon wouldnt work correctly on ps3 so they swaped to UE3 and they planned on eventually porting the ue3 dust to carbon when ps4 was going to continue the evoution of dust some time later in the future
The-Errorist 683	Posted - 2014.05.07 19:03:00 - [12] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: The-Errorist wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Since Legion and dust are going to share the same engine and judging what i saw on the keynote wouldnt that mean that it is easy to port new stuff from Legion (weapons, suits and vehicles) to dust aswell? Even if its just a by product from legion that we would get new stuff i might eventually keep playing Dust. They don't share the same engine; Dust uses Unreal Engine 3 and Legion uses unreal Engine 4. Not quite, Dust uses UE3, Legion is using UE3(heavily modded by CCP). No word yet if they will be using UE4 at a later date, but with all the modding done in-house the Devs seem quite satisfied to the point where they don't see the need for UE4. Also, no word yet on a pay model (I hope it will stay F2P). I've just finished reading the recent dev post and twitter post and what you've said is true. https://twitter.com/ccp_praetorian/status/463512406803488768

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 7224	Posted - 2014.05.07 19:24:00 - [13] - Quote Legion is using UE3, but heavily modified. It's similar in many ways to the same modified UE3 engine in DUST, but not exactly the same. There might be some portability, but it's very dependent on performance concerns (we've got more power head space with Legion) and architecture (Cell vs x86). Legion is not being developed with UE4 at the moment, but EVE: Valkyrie is. CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

buhh buhh Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.05.07 21:33:00 - [14] - Quote OMG... UE3 is already 3 years old + 2 years development on PC let's assume... Legion will look 5 years old at released and competing against games with engine better than UE4 already I mean, i really hope CCP will use UE4, especially as they already have purchased it. And i guess Carbon is too heavy/nice to support large scale combats
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2220	Posted - 2014.05.07 21:35:00 - [15] - Quote buhh buhh wrote: OMG... UE3 is already 3 years old + 2 years development on PC let's assume... Legion will look 5 years old at released and competing against games with engine better than UE4 already I mean, i really hope CCP will use UE4, especially as they already have purchased it. And i guess Carbon is too heavy/nice to support large scale combats UE3 is updated constantly.
Nyctohylophobia Kinsho Swords Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.05.07 21:35:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Legion is using UE3, but heavily modified. It's similar in many ways to the same modified UE3 engine in DUST, but not exactly the same. There might (and that's a very iffy might) be some portability, but it's very dependent on performance concerns (we've got more head space with Legion) and architecture (Cell vs x86) so not everything can be brought to DUST from Legion. Additionally, Legion is not being developed with UE4 at the moment, but EVE: Valkyrie is. Are you doing Legion on UE4 since much of the foundation has already been laid down with Dust? And how difficult would it be to "migrate" over to UE4?
J'Hiera Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 64	Posted - 2014.05.07 21:39:00 - [17] - Quote Why not Carbon?
McFurious TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 752	Posted - 2014.05.07 21:42:00 - [18] - Quote buhh buhh wrote: OMG... UE3 is already 3 years old + 2 years development on PC let's assume... Legion will look 5 years old at released and competing against games with engine better than UE4 already I mean, i really hope CCP will use UE4, especially as they already have purchased it. And i guess Carbon is too heavy/nice to support large scale combats Meh. UE3 is still plenty good enough. Legion is modified UE3 and it's still a huge step up from what we have on the PS3. Dust looks terrible in comparison and we've been playing that for a couple years now. That and people might not have to go hardcore with the upgrades to run Legion on PC. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole


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