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SCAT mania
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:05:00 -
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We all know deep down that dust never left beta no matter what the devs say. We've constantly tested new weapons, buffing, nerfing, tweaking, reporting bugs. We got stuck in walls, fell through the map, spawned with invalid fits and spawned blind, we've figured out some cheats like farming wp with a reptool and a tank, head-glitching or reviving the same player 100 times just to get killed over and over by a friend on the other team. We've shown what works and what doesn't.
So instead of having to do this all over again with legion when you bring out your new un-tested toys for players to fight with. how about you release them in dust first? let us test the **** out of MTACs, or the rest of the racial vehicles and weapons. Increase the map size, add pilot suits, commander roles, how about add everything you god damn promised us! you must have some of these finished? or maybe you haven't finished the artwork?.. well give us a placeholder till you finish it, or better yet include the community in your designs.
look i'm looking forward to legion, but not if im going to have wait a year to go through the same crap iv gone through the last 3 years!
You bring it, we test it, you fix it
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Dirt Nap Squad.
1835
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:06:00 -
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it doesn't make any sense that they do not.
they're using the SAME engine.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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SCAT mania
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
508
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:08:00 -
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and this way it makes everyone happy, we get what you promised, legion lads gets a finished game
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:08:00 -
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yeaps now is the time to try out new things that can quickly be changed on the sever such as changing squad numbers. no reason not to test things so they can collect the data they want and adjust to get the effect they want.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
262
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:11:00 -
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Dont you know?
If they release legion with untested weapons itll be a forever beta also thatll get replaced
CCP makes me physically ill
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
66
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:14:00 -
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Dust 514 = beta for Legion
That's why both games won't relate to each other but will still exist together.
Dust to Dust
Ashes to Ashes
Theme Song
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Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:16:00 -
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This would at least give those who are left a purpose and a reason
to stay on. Right now the playerbase is divided into those who feel
cheated by Ccp and those who are looking to the future with Legion.
Doing something like this might placate the former and repair some
of the genius PR that this announcement has been. It would also mean
Dust doesn't just get binned. At least consider it...
Playing the game badly since Replication
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
438
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:22:00 -
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The answer is three simple reasons
1. CCP has to pay Sony weeks in advance to put each patch through .... this slows down their ability to test and make changes quickly...
2. Not that Dust can be used as a test really anyway .... that would require putting unstable code which run the risk of bricking PS3 and destabilizing Sony's servers something that would make them VERY nervous.
3. 256 megs .... this is the biggest headache. There is simply not enough RAM for the vision .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
269
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:22:00 -
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They should. This has come up in a few threads and at one of the round table discussions. but......CCP.
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
90
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:26:00 -
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seeing as both game run on the u3 engine I fully expect weapons/suits/vehicles assets to be ported back to dust from legion development (probably lower res versions ). but that's all im expecting I hope we might get a update of skirmish 1.0 but even that seems unlikely :( |
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
438
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:29:00 -
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Being sort of a live field weapons lab testing should be possible .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3035
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:31:00 -
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Well if they are using the same engine i imagine that it is probably easy to port stuff. |
Orenji Jiji
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:32:00 -
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DERP.
Because the blame was already put on PS3, devs are awesome and can continue their "work".
Because brown points with evetards community were already made.
Because that buys them time.
Because now they can con another demographic... or actually their usual demographic, that doesn't mind being conned. We bitched too much, tbh.
But IDK, maybe if we buy more Aurum!
I liked this game.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
165
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:46:00 -
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Gregor stormwalker wrote:seeing as both game run on the u3 engine I fully expect weapons/suits/vehicles assets to be ported back to dust from legion development (probably lower res versions ). but that's all im expecting I hope we might get a update of skirmish 1.0 but even that seems unlikely :(
Unreal 4, actually.
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Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
90
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:04:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Gregor stormwalker wrote:seeing as both game run on the u3 engine I fully expect weapons/suits/vehicles assets to be ported back to dust from legion development (probably lower res versions ). but that's all im expecting I hope we might get a update of skirmish 1.0 but even that seems unlikely :( Unreal 4, actually.
no heavily modified unreal 3
CCP Saberwing wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:https://twitter.com/ccp_praetorian/status/463512406803488768
Legion is currently using unreal engine 3 not 4. Yep. I've brought up the question numerous times about Unreal 3 vs Unreal 4. Apparently we're using a hugely modified version of Unreal 3 now - to the point where moving to Unreal 4 just doesn't seem realistic. Most of the things we'd want from Unreal 4 we've already created ourselves at this point anyway! I do know though that the project is currently running DirectX 11. Edit: I think an example of where we've drastically improved beyond just Unreal 3 is the lighting. CCP Android works on this stuff a great deal. I'll try to get him to chime in with some details later.
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
596
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:35:00 -
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low genius wrote:it doesn't make any sense that they do not.
they're using the SAME engine.
On PS3 hardware. It cuts out a few problems with having the same engine but its by no means an easy port.
As a side edit, did you ever play Skyrim on the PS3? Remember all those bugs that the PC version never got? Thats because even though the two games had the same engine (creation engine) there was complications involving how the hardware interacted with it. Linki here if you want to read up on it.
CPM App
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:40:00 -
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SCAT mania wrote:We all know deep down that dust never left beta no matter what the devs say. We've constantly tested new weapons, buffing, nerfing, tweaking, reporting bugs. We got stuck in walls, fell through the map, spawned with invalid fits and spawned blind, we've figured out some cheats like farming wp with a reptool and a tank, head-glitching or reviving the same player 100 times just to get killed over and over by a friend on the other team. We've shown what works and what doesn't.
So instead of having to do this all over again with legion when you bring out your new un-tested toys for players to fight with. how about you release them in dust first? let us test the **** out of MTACs, or the rest of the racial vehicles and weapons. Increase the map size, add pilot suits, commander roles, how about add everything you god damn promised us! you must have some of these finished? or maybe you haven't finished the artwork?.. well give us a placeholder till you finish it, or better yet include the community in your designs.
look i'm looking forward to legion, but not if im going to have wait a year to go through the same crap iv gone through the last 3 years!
You bring it, we test it, you fix it
Itll be more than year maybe even 3 or more |
PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:58:00 -
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Better question why didn't they listen when we said it wasn't ready to come out of beta in the first place? Could it be that the thought of resetting aur each build led to less sales. So push it out too soon bill the testers for as long as you can calling it a release, then crap on most of them and expect them to keep paying to beta your crappy game. Get real we were all fooled beta testing for CCP is for chumps.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:02:00 -
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why do that when they can have a test server on pc testing the changes on the system its designed for
All Hail Legion
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