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Jack Boost Zarena Family 368	Posted - 2014.05.06 09:50:00 - [1] - Quote This is about 'broken heart' of community, but read carefully. Long, long time ago there was one man that loves Sci/Fi, computers and games. I'm from not rich country and I have a long way to the point where I'm now. There was a lot projects about space and reaching the stars . Lots forgoten (or not) and closed but ppl still search for more. I choose some of them and I know why. 'Vision' from CCP is one among them. Let's star here and open your eyes. Bussines: - Eve online ->40-50k online ppl ... with subscription. - Dust with 'GREAT AND ONLY' community ... 4k p2f. (Play to free -model) Really? 80 000 000 PS3 and 'one' free game ... and this number (4k ppl) only?. Why you 'so devoted' ppl dont play more? This shoud be about 450k online players that p2f shoud bring money to CCP and Sony. Only 4k of Sony console community interested in this project. To hard? Mayby? But hard in long term is fun and this is one of reason why i'm here. Not much gameplay ? Maybe - but it is enough for me. Not much customization? With items that we have today ... CCP must bring down customization model to simples form again and agian.. Why? You dont like to think .. a little? CCP brings Dust 514 to new platform (at last not new). There was not road change. All stays same. Only ppl from CCP dont block yourself with some 'chains'. - you dont get more players anymore! - not here anyway. This 40-50k ppl online in Eve know why they are here. And 'voted' it's money. This is from long time (11 years) and this is quite unusal for single title. Maybe because my money count? I'm 10 year eve player... but i'm here for poject itself. You say alone 'freak', but you know .. there is more us then 'choosed' console community now. And still be more when this project grow. And this project grow .. slow but still. More ppl have chance to get there. From other consoles, from PC and more sources. You are not alone here. Cry - I must bought new hardware!. - as you bought PS3.. PS2... xbox, commodore 64, atari 2600 , and you will bought anything more that comes. You like it? Buy it - always... That this world works. You still can wait... but you are probably to young to do this. Patience - isn't word in your dictionary. I'm fanboy? you say... i'm far far away from this box. But listen. I hear about Dust and must buy PS3 only for this game, because exclusive PS3 title. New hardware for me. And toons exclusive eq for it. I dont cry, I support this industry (not only CCP and Sony) for more dreams that I can get. If I like something and someone say 'play this only on stick' ... soon or later I will be there. Maybe after 10 years we will change hardware few more times? - PS4! - If 80 000 000 PS3 was not enough, 7 000 000 of PS4 either... I wonder still why your - I must bought new hardware!. dont apply here... - I pay you! - this is free game (exception at your console). If you want to be 'faster' competive you pay more $. This money go for more things not only for beer for CCP dev needs. Sony staff is thirsty too. But you know from 4k free 'givings' is not much for all. No more money! As you wish - CCP bussines go elsewere. - I'm hurt!. Maybe, but this mean that you dont feel pain a lot in your life. Time to grow up and start look at things outside your small world and try to understand another ppl. I wish you ppl all good life, where you can reach your dreams and dont burn. I CCP like as company and it is not black and white, but you always show more then others and you still here with your dream. (I have hope that I will live enough to get there ) Dont worry this is only my single voice. Have nice day
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2014.05.06 09:56:00 - [2] - Quote You broke your English. It doesn't read good.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 219	Posted - 2014.05.06 09:58:00 - [3] - Quote It reads well bro. Too bad this will fall on deaf ears Saying what's on people's minds
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 962	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:05:00 - [4] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: You broke your English. It doesn't read good. English is not his native language, but he still made the effort and is easy to understand. I agree with some parts and not with others, but +1 for being the father of all the European light weapon heavies.
Force Seventrum Negative-Impact The East India Co. 9	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:06:00 - [5] - Quote Good post bump. Its about the vision and the product. Its becouse we were here after all. Not about PS4 or PC. If the vision lives on I m happy. If the product stopes exciting I will cry. I just hope EVE: Legion will Green Lighted and release atleast in beta access as soon as possible :) And I hunger about more idears and concepts of the Dev. Green Light EVE:Legion!
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:12:00 - [6] - Quote Okay, I re-read. It's actually very well articulated despite the broken English, and some great points are made.
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 134	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:27:00 - [7] - Quote GG Waiting for the green light as many others. Never give up on dreams keep sleeping
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 3027	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:37:00 - [8] - Quote A lot of effort went into that post it might be broken english but it still read well indicating care. Well said good sir i look forword to seeing you in legion :-) "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1454	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:49:00 - [9] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: You broke your English. It doesn't read good. English is not his native language, give the guy some credit for trying. He must have put a lot of time into typing this up if nothing else. Jack was the origional AR heavy in Dust, way way back in closed beta, so he is more than entitled to have his say regardless of his accuracy with our language. I may not agree with your opinion Jack, but I will defend to the death your right to share it in whatever language you see fit to do so in. o7 We are the 514, and we will not forget RIP Dust
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2381	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:08:00 - [10] - Quote There is one point that you miss JB. As a guy that play console games I don't wan't to use a mouse and keyboard. - And I have played enough against you before the MKB nerf to see how superior it was for aiming. I want to play on my 50 inch plasma in my livingroom. Doing that With a PC will be ackward at best. For me, and many like me, we will buy a PS4 regardless of Dust or indeed, Legion comes to it or not. And I am from a very rich country, I still don't want to buy a gaming rig just for playing Legion on PC. And I don't understand why they had to og to PC, why not the PS4? Wasn't a big point of this game to let CCP in on a Whole New marked and suck some Revenue out of a playerbase they didn't have access to? If Legion was announced for PS4 I bet none of us would complain at all, in fact, we would salute CCP for realising that Dust is a lost project. Now we are left dead in the water with nothing good to look forward too. If they do eventually launch it on the PS4, am I expected to play vs mouse and keyboard PC players? - Forget it, its never going to work. Just look at the great "balance" we've had in Dust between the two different options. Either the KB/M combo was OP, like in Chromosome, or it's been like now, when even the die-hard PC gamers dust of their consoles. Or is the community suposed to be split, so that we have some players on PC fighting amongst themselves and some on the PS4 fighting amonst themselves, this too will never work cause splitting up such a tiny community will leave us with too few players in both. SO JB, under the premise that using a mouse and keyboard for playing shooters is not an option for most of us console kiddies, what do you expect us to do? - There is nothing left for us here, its time all of us moved on, which I will probably do very shortly as soon as I buy a PS4.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.

HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4841	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:10:00 - [11] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: You broke your English. It doesn't read good. Read it with a Russian accent and it reads well. I use the guy from rocky as my voice.
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1025	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:15:00 - [12] - Quote Jack you were the first name I ever remembered from Dust. I am 843-BANE, not sure if you remember me XD When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1656	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:34:00 - [13] - Quote The problem I have is: if DUST 514 was a hit: 30k people online at any one moment, all waiting for DUST 514 to become what CCP promised it would be, would CCP still have essentially killed it by announcing Legion? If the answer is "yes", then it really is about making the promises they made true. If it is "no", hey, I guess we just couldn't make them enough money. "I have to get new hardware!" is actually a fairly small group whose complaints are still justified. Consoles and games do die and disappear. This is the first case, that I know of, where a game is completely moving to a different platform. I don't mean as a port like Diablo III; I mean that DUST 514 is going to be shutdown a year after Legion and all resources put into Legion to be what DUST was supposed to be. The complaint is about that: "you told me it was going to be here and all of your resources were on this platform. You lied to me." Never ever say "it is a free to play game; don't complain." It is the easiest fallacy to fall for and I was guilty of it for some time, though not with DUST. Free to play is a misnomer, it isn't true. The game has a different way of getting money besides up front cost (60 dollars at store, etc.) or subscription (10 dollars a month). It still makes money and is a product that needs to be up to par. Allow me to use the most played game in the world as an example: League of Legends is completely free to play and is generally considered an "ethical free to play" game. If I spent $1,000 on the game, I am just as powerful as the guy that spends no money. I can unlock more things than him faster but my characters are not more powerful. He can still get everything I have aside from completely cosmetic changes. I once said to my friend we can't complain because it is free; it costs us nothing. I was wrong, he was right: "After 3 multi-million dollar tournaments, massive advertising, and being the most played game in the world it 'being free' is no longer a shield." If you state that just because it is free I can't expect much or complain, what happens when I spend a dollar? Does my opinion matter more than yours because I spent money? Here's an article that is interesting. The final point is the seller: "Everything in the game exists because of 10% of the player base that paid for it. Knowing this, does my voice matter because I don't put money into the game? Should it matter?" If you mention "it is free, don't complain" you are falling into this trap. Going with "it is just a game, calm down" is insulting but I see what you are saying. No one is burning down bridges for this. The only thing people are doing is bitching loudly to get information waves, quitting/not playing, or deleting their characters. We just want the thing that we liked, or at least the idea of the thing we liked, to be done in a way that doesn't just have us rubbing our backsides going "did you have to paddle our butts like we were a money pinata CCP?" "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Jack Boost Zarena Family 378	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:39:00 - [14] - Quote KingBabar wrote: There is one point that you miss JB. As a guy that play console games I don't wan't to use a mouse and keyboard. - And I have played enough against you before the MKB nerf to see how superior it was for aiming. I want to play on my 50 inch plasma in my livingroom. Doing that With a PC will be ackward at best. ..... SO JB, under the premise that using a mouse and keyboard for playing shooters is not an option for most of us console kiddies, what do you expect us to do? - There is nothing left for us here, its time all of us moved on, which I will probably do very shortly as soon as I buy a PS4.... PC is very flexible - you can use pad as well as you use it here. Also you can plugin your PC nowadays to TV without extra cost or technical dificulties. This are only minor 'problems'. Also CCP (hope/soon tm etc) know this issues and like here we can coexist we will coexist in Legion. No need for spliting community. I succesfuly (I think) come to your console world and I can play here with 5-6 keys at keyboard at peek (i'm old ;). You will be welcome at my world too, and I'm sure you will play good as you can. Just dont loose hope. World is not that scary as you feel now.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2384	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:16:00 - [15] - Quote Edit: PS is also very flexible, you can use KB/M as well as a Controller.... Jack Boost - go play a PC shooter with a pad against people using mouse and keyboard.... Its impossible to compete - mouse and keyboard are just has a lot better accuracy. The only way it will work is if the mouse and keyboard is nerfed in some fashion, which again will make Legion a bad PC shooter - all PC shooters want raw input - understandably. Either the "pad-holding" part of the community will suffer a huge dissadvantage, or the entire game gets diminished for all M/KB users - both of which are bad sollutions, its a lose-lose sort of situation. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.


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