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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:41:00 -
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So I was haveing a voice chat about Destiny, Division, PS2, etc being at E3 2014 since CCP killed Dust 514 and a friend says CCP ?
I say yep.
Friend says E3 2014
I say no f u c k i n g way as I gave an explanation of the latest CCP PR blunders.
Friend says yes way and let me have a look see at E3 2014 registration
I was still mouth agape.
Friend says yes E3 2014 registration is
MR 402A
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:43:00 -
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Cool! Hopefully more legion stuff |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:44:00 -
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Well that's, uh, great.
Is there something you're trying to say here or are you just being a friendly source of information?
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:48:00 -
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Yep they are there.
99% chance that it is just for showing off Valkyrie.
Maybe they will have a display for Legion since they like showing off what they might do so much.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:52:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Yep they are there. 99% chance that it is just for showing off Valkyrie. Maybe they will have a display for Legion since they like showing off what they might do so much.
yeah
kinda like watching a three legged dog at a professional dog show.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:56:00 -
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She did whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:02:00 -
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I suppose this will be another chance to introduce huge, sweeping changes that has thousands of questions in regards to customer investment by which they will absolutely not answer a single thing.
I am guessing Valkyrie will be the main thing talked about. There will be some EVE stuff like "we are making it more accessible, easier to understand, without making the game easier" (that was their buzz all this FanFest), maybe some Project Legion, but probably nothing about DUST. Hell, maybe even by the time it is, E3 Legion is just DUST 514 at which time they will want to impress the gaming press by saying "We have learned a lot from our mistakes; we have got some really impressive things to show you" which they won't realize is like telling your 8 year old son that you hope not to screw up as horrifically with the next kid.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:07:00 -
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Not surprised, they'll be showing off Valkyrie and their slick new trailers. People will care about Valkyrie (yawn). I'm most hopeful for some Battlefront 3 stuff at E3, more previews of games we know are coming (Witcher 3, Mad MAx, The Order, Destiny, The Division etc..), but like every E3 its the game announcements I can't wait for.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:13:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Not surprised, they'll be showing off Valkyrie and their slick new trailers. People will care about Valkyrie (yawn). I'm most hopeful for some Battlefront 3 stuff at E3, more previews of games we know are coming (Witcher 3, Mad MAx, The Order, Destiny, The Division etc..), but like every E3 its the game announcements I can't wait for.
Theres some good surprises comeing up in a few weeks .
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:14:00 -
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Of course they are, they just announced a new game. It is a trade show, after all.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:16:00 -
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This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light.
Sorry if I'm missing sarcasm, but was their ever a doubt that this wasn't green lit or that they had any other option when the Dust Progression presentation was about Legion and wasn't it included in that Eve launcher thing (for lack of my tired brain being able to remember half of what that was)
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light.
Legion could be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"Put it out in front of them, see if they like it," he said. "EVR [later renamed Eve: Valkyrie] was a perfect example of that. Legion will or will not be an example of that, weGÇÖll see, and if Legion does well, great, weGÇÖll continue to invest in it. If it doesnGÇÖt, weGÇÖll open up some beers, have some fun and say, "'Ok, that was fun, letGÇÖs do something different now and go again.'"
So Legion is announced in the worst way possible short of CCP Rouge breaking into your house, crapping on your floor, and 'finger-painting' with it on the walls "Project Legion." With the terrible announcement and "what happens to my SP, items, character name?" being the three obvious questions that weren't answered until the next day despite having 3 broadcasted events about "DUST 514" (all of which turned out to be about Project Legion), the reaction has been vastly negative.
"We decided to stop working on Project Legion. It is clear that our community doesn't want it." Sadly, this is the worst news ever. "We can't do what we wanted on the PS3. The ONLY way DUST is going to be what we promised it to be is to remake it on the PC." Right there, DUST is dead. Them cancelling Legion doesn't change the fact that Legion being brought on stage during a DUST 514 presentation was the bullet to the head of DUST. Even if they say "Legion isn't happening", DUST 514 still has a hallow-point slug in its head. And all CCP has to say is "the community just didn't want it bad enough."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light.
Well yes.
Interesting rumor in that if Legion gets the green light it may get spun off and sold to recuperate costs.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:05:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light. Well yes. Interesting rumor in that if Legion gets the green light it may get spun off and sold to recuperate costs.
Don't you just love rumor mills?
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:45:00 -
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I am pretty sure its valkarie the press cannot seem to get enough of that hotness now that world of darkness is no longer distracting them.
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.06 08:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am pretty sure its valkarie the press cannot seem to get enough of that hotness now that world of darkness is no longer distracting them.
I'm sure the press will have questions about that hotness that was dust514 let's see if they laugh about it like jita. I anticipate e3 will be like pouring gas on a fire.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.06 08:32:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:This just increases the likelihood that Legion will get the green light. Sorry if I'm missing sarcasm, but was their ever a doubt that this wasn't green lit or that they had any other option when the Dust Progression presentation was about Legion and wasn't it included in that Eve launcher thing (for lack of my tired brain being able to remember half of what that was)
I'm sorry to break it to you, but CCP has been very clear that Legion is not green lit.
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 10:48:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:"Put it out in front of them, see if they like it," he said. "EVR [later renamed Eve: Valkyrie] was a perfect example of that. Legion will or will not be an example of that, weGÇÖll see, and if Legion does well, great, weGÇÖll continue to invest in it. If it doesnGÇÖt, weGÇÖll open up some beers, have some fun and say, "'Ok, that was fun, letGÇÖs do something different now and go again.'"
^This. This quote right here is what people should be concerned about.
This half-assed "let's throw some sh*t at the wall and see if it sticks" attitude was a huge factor in why Dust fell short of the mark, and has nothing at all to do with console limitations.
If they can't even fully commit to their own "vision", then how can they possibly expect to make that vision a reality? They essentially hijacked their own Dust presentation to show off some cool footage that they've been tinkering with (when they should have been spending that time and energy working on their actual, real, existing product, mind you), but can't even give a firm, definitive commitment as to whether or not Legion is even going to see the light of day.
It almost sounds like the devs have been playing around instead of doing their jobs.
Boss: "How's that coding coming along for the player market?"
Dev: "That? Yeah, I was having some difficulty with that, so I gave up, but look at this neat video I made instead!"
Boss: "Hey, that IS neat! Let's just scrap everything we've been working on, and see if we can make a game like that instead!"
CCP has cool ideas, but lack the focus, commitment, and professionalism to effectively bring those ideas to life.
So, here we are now, and the best they can say is "we'll see if the players think the video is as neat as we do and, if they do, we'll start trying to turn it into a game!", and that's not a very encouraging way to begin development.
Not if you want that game to be successful, anyway.
But, what the hell, if it doesn't work out, they'll just laugh, drink a few beers, scrap the whole thing and try something else.
Sound familiar? |
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