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Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 402	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:18:00 - [1] - Quote Free updates, more modes, and a new platform Late last year, erstwhile EVE Online executive producer Jon Lander proclaimed -- perhaps emboldened by his own game's impending ten-year anniversary -- that CCP had "a five-year roadmap" for the recently-announced free-to-play PC shooter Project Legion. "We're not going to ship a unit and then in six months it's off the shelves and people have stopped playing it," he said at the time. Of course, six months ago people began buying the PlayStation 4, which may raise some doubts about the game's longterm success. CCP's vice president of business development, Thor Gunnarsson, isn't worried at all. "We already see that Project Legion, during Fanfest, had been driving fan interest for CCP. We actually track that together," he tells me. "We so know that our fan base, Legion-curious players, are reading and joining forums to get into our game." More generally, though, Gunnarsson seems confident in CCP's ability to support the PC well into the next few years. "What we hear, anecdotally, is that PC sales are increasing," he says. "Valve and other developers have done a phenomenal job of managing PC gaming, like they did with Half Life, Call of Duty, and Battlefield," he effuses. "We can make the logical assumption that something similar will happen as Project Legion comes to market," Gunnarsson continues, noting that EVE's large PC install base and incremental success since 2003 will give it "long legs" moving forward. His ultimate declaration on the subject is this: "If you look at the large picture, you'll see that CCP is not falling away from the PC. What about Valkyrie? It took consoles years to consider VR gaming." Gunnarsson's enthusiasm is partly diplomatic, I'm sure, but fansGÇÖ enduring interest in the PC is the crux of Project Legion's development strategy, which is to keep players coming back with a periodic trickle of high-quality -- and, most importantly, free -- updates. The foundation for these types of updates was laid when Project Legion was demo'd at Fanfest. Several minutes in, CCP rolled out a free, updated roadmap of the game, starting from the Alpha, which overhauled the game's graphics, added content, and re-structured much of the game's user interface and menus. More updates were made when the game was shown more, only a day later. "Here we are in the late stage of the pre-Alpha, and we've completely overhauled the whole thing," explains executive producer Brandon Laurino during a brief chat. "Even for a PC MMO, that's pretty outrageous, but you've never had that for a shooter game. You've never had something like a demo or a version 1.0 of something in your hands and then had a huge graphics update on it." Project Legion has been officially announced for less than a week now, but the Shanghai-based team responsible for it is already in active development on new gameplay modes that should be available "very soon." (I should note that "very soon" in this case means up to three years from now.) In its current iteration, Project Legion is a competitive, player-vs.-player, deathmatch-based affair. However, CCP Shanghai are working on cooperative, player-vs.-environment modes that they hope will encourage corporation-level play: "Survival" is a wave-based Horde mode, and "Infestation" will involve scouring any enemies trying to establish a toehold in corporation-controlled districts. In both modes, groups of players will fight against drones, the so-called "rats" or "mobs" of Project Legion, to gather money and other resources. The idea is that these PvE modes will give players and corps new entry points into the robust in-game economy that ties Project Legion and EVE Online together. Eventually, CCP plans to implement space elevators to carry those resources from the planetary surfaces of Legion to the orbiting fleets of EVE, linking the two games physically as well as thematically, economically, and structurally. Other upcoming modes include GÇ£Penetration,GÇ¥ which will allow Legion mercenaries to raid and board EVEGÇÖs Titan-class warships, and GÇ£Gladiator,GÇ¥ a set of organized tournaments that will include in-game betting and streaming. The EVE universe spans hundreds of star systems and thousands of planets, each of which will need to be dynamically populated with weather patterns, terrain, vegetation, and architecture. Racially variegated weapons, vehicles, and space stations are also in the works. If that sounds like a lot, thatGÇÖs mostly the point. GÇ£This is the way that CCP does a game,GÇ¥ says Laurino. GÇ£WeGÇÖll never make a Project Legion-2, right? WeGÇÖll never update the graphics, package up a bunch of content, and say, GÇÿOkay, now this is a $60 expansion.'GÇ¥ GÇ£ItGÇÖs just all part of the game as a service that we provide to our users. ThatGÇÖs part of the value proposition that we offer,GÇ¥ he continues. GÇ£This is not the end of the major, free updates. WeGÇÖve got quite a few more planned for the rest of 2014 and then out for two years, out for five years, out for ten years, just like EVE.GÇ¥ Still, CCP will eventually need to develop a PlayStation 4 version of Project Legion, link it to the PC version, and then tie both of them to Tranquility, the London-based server that governs everything that happens in the EVE universe. And theyGÇÖll do it, ideally, with as little downtime as possible. A tall order, but one that CCP are already familiar with. GÇ£When we launched EVE in 2003, it was running on Windows XP at the time, on DirectX 7,GÇ¥ Gunnarsson tells me. GÇ£We migrated to DirectX 9 with a live game in operation and ran a dual rendering across DX7 and DX9 for many years. We launched the Mac version the same way.GÇ¥
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 402	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:19:00 - [2] - Quote Not surprisingly, Laurino agrees, though heGÇÖs less concerned with the nitty-gritty details at this point. GÇ£Really, any game could be set up to this. So itGÇÖs more a philosophy than it is a real technical roadblock,GÇ¥ he explains. GÇ£Of course there are a lot of technical challenges, sure, but itGÇÖs about holding yourself to a different software development standard and a different standard for service that makes a difference.GÇ¥ GÇ£ItGÇÖs also just common sense,GÇ¥ Laurino goes on. GÇ£If you want to sustain a ten-year product in the videogame industry, you have to upgrade at some point.GÇ¥ I ask Gunnarsson, somewhat dubiously, about the economics and logistics of running two different games on two platforms connected by one central server; he remains nonchalant throughout. GÇ£WeGÇÖre very confident. WeGÇÖve already done this in the PC space," he explains. "If you think about it from that perspective, weGÇÖve been doing this for years.GÇ¥ Source: http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-confident-about-dust-514-s-five-year-future-255455.phtml
J'Jor Da'Wg Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 996	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:22:00 - [3] - Quote Haha remember when they said they had a 10 year roadmap for DUST don't worry this will be different tho
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7934	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:26:00 - [4] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Haha remember when they said they had a 10 year roadmap for DUST don't worry this will be different tho Yep; Same Developers Same Engine (albiet a different version) Same Resources Same Leadership But moving to PC will obviously cause EVE: Legion to be the re-boot DUST needed, as it was clearly the PlayStation 3 holding CCP back. #Can'tCodeProperly inb4 The Lock!
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 652	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:27:00 - [5] - Quote So you took a dust article and changed the name DUST514 to Legion Original '#PCMasterRace
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 652	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:29:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Haha remember when they said they had a 10 year roadmap for DUST don't worry this will be different tho Yep; Same Developers Same Engine (albiet a different version) Same Resources Same Leadership But moving to PC will obviously cause EVE: Legion to be the re-boot DUST needed, as it was clearly the PlayStation 3 holding CCP back. #Can'tCodeProperly 1.wrong 2.aka not the same engine 3.Eh? 4wrong agian '#PCMasterRace
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7935	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:38:00 - [7] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: 1.wrong 2.aka not the same engine 3.Eh? 4wrong agian So if assertions 1 & 4 are incorrect, then the DUST 514 development team is being fired or re-assigned correct? I'm pretty sure CCP was clear when they said there will be no future development for DUST 514. UE3 is to UE4, as Andriod OS 3 is to Android OS 4. Same engine, different version. inb4 The Lock!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7937	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:40:00 - [8] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: So you took a dust article and changed the name DUST514 to Legion Original Seems far more original than what EVE Players have been able to come up with. inb4 The Lock!
BioClone Ax-45 Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:43:00 - [9] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: Atiim wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Haha remember when they said they had a 10 year roadmap for DUST don't worry this will be different tho Yep; Same Developers Same Engine (albiet a different version) Same Resources Same Leadership But moving to PC will obviously cause EVE: Legion to be the re-boot DUST needed, as it was clearly the PlayStation 3 holding CCP back. #Can'tCodeProperly 1.wrong 2.aka not the same engine 3.Eh? 4wrong agian 1. CCP Shanghai 2. Unreal Engine 3. Mostly EvE Players money 4. Hilmar & other devs? So?
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:45:00 - [10] - Quote I wonder how eating that many words effects the digestion? Typical CCP fanboy

Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 975	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:46:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Haha remember when they said they had a 10 year roadmap for DUST don't worry this will be different tho Yep; Mostly Same Developers Same Engine (albiet a different version) ~~Same~~ More Resources ~~Same~~ New Leadership But moving to PC will obviously cause EVE: Legion to be the re-boot DUST needed, as it was clearly the PlayStation 3 holding CCP back. #Can'tCodeProperly fixed Thoughts On This Idea?
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 653	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:57:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: Vin Vicious wrote: 1.wrong 2.aka not the same engine 3.Eh? 4wrong agian So if assertions 1 & 4 are incorrect, then the DUST 514 development team is being fired or re-assigned correct? I'm pretty sure CCP was clear when they said there will be no future development for DUST 514. UE3 is to UE4, as Andriod OS 4.0 is to Android OS 4.2 Same engine, different version. Depends on how you view it, say a couple members of a hypothetical football are traded or their contract is up and they replace them is that the say team? And to answer your leadership rouge is not the executive producer who started dust '#PCMasterRace


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