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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 694	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:14:00 - [31] - Quote Mr Sanchez Asst wrote: Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. Wrong, Atilim, CCP can't do Legion on Playstation because they are legally and contractually isolated by Sony to stay on PS3 Making a new game for PC is the only way out. But they have to be careful and not make it appear like the move to PC Legion is an attempt to extract themselves from that contract with Sony ( btw reassuring players that Dust content - including characters- will be moved over complicates the tale they are telling). CCP can't keep up with the lies they are weaving. Half of me wants to know more about said contract, the other half doesn't give a ****. But why can't they be on PS4 I dont get it Sign if you refuse to give up on the PS3 Dust
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 111	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:20:00 - [32] - Quote Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. They basicaly left us because they were scared to tell:"Sorry we cant do that, theres your money and your dta will be transfered fully to dust2.0 on pc if you will want." Hell their parent should be proud, in my country we dont accept this behaviour. SHAME ON YOU CCP!! "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:27:00 - [33] - Quote Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. For people who "can't code properly", they sure have made one wildly successful MMO. And stop telling people to ask for refunds.... everyone who does that is probably going to get banned, and won't be able to transfer over to Legion. Hey look someone who knows absolutely nothing about Eve. Eve had a memory leak from the beginning until sometime in 2009, 5 years, that would eventually mess up the game and crash. An eve update deleted your boot.ini, this makes it imossible for your computer to boot afterwards. An eve update literally fried a ton of motherboards/GPUs because of poor programming. Eve voice has been a monumental failure. Tranquility used to constantly fail with not a lot of strain. For the first 7 or so years, the text font was horribly unreadable. The amount of exploits/bugs in eve is legendary. No CCP is not a good code producer. They have been living on easy street with zero competition since star wars galaxies went and decided to commit suicide. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:34:00 - [34] - Quote Mr Sanchez Asst wrote: Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. Wrong, Atilim, CCP can't do Legion on Playstation because they are legally and contractually isolated by Sony to stay on PS3 Making a new game for PC is the only way out. But they have to be careful and not make it appear like the move to PC Legion is an attempt to extract themselves from that contract with Sony ( btw reassuring players that Dust content - including characters- will be moved over complicates the tale they are telling). CCP can't keep up with the lies they are weaving. Hey look more mis-information Back at around EvE Vegas CCP confirmed that there was no exclusivity contract with Sony for Dust, and that there was nothing keeping them from making Dust on other platforms. Sure they wouldn't do XBOX because microsoft would not allow the game to be hosted on tranquility, but that is it. Please don't lie to people. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Mr Sanchez Asst Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:45:00 - [35] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Mr Sanchez Asst wrote: Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. Wrong, Atilim, CCP can't do Legion on Playstation because they are legally and contractually isolated by Sony to stay on PS3 Making a new game for PC is the only way out. But they have to be careful and not make it appear like the move to PC Legion is an attempt to extract themselves from that contract with Sony ( btw reassuring players that Dust content - including characters- will be moved over complicates the tale they are telling). CCP can't keep up with the lies they are weaving. Hey look more mis-information Back at around EvE Vegas CCP confirmed that there was no exclusivity contract with Sony for Dust, and that there was nothing keeping them from making Dust on other platforms. Sure they wouldn't do XBOX because microsoft would not allow the game to be hosted on tranquility, but that is it. Please don't lie to people. Look kid, You need to understand some things about the world you live in but, since you're not My kid, I haven't the time to teach you I will however, leave you this: In the real wold, the words you use matter a lot. Especially when it comes to legal and binding agreements. That's why I know you're not up to speed on this matter. You suggest that CCp stated publically at Vegas that they were in no way contractually limited from developing "DUST 514" on any other platform or even doing so for PS4. Ok, thanks for you insightful input. Go cal someone else a liar please.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2135	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:49:00 - [36] - Quote Games Haven wrote: Anyone who says that Dust has reached the limits of what the PS3 can do has never seen GTAV. Or LoU, Or Far Cry 3, Or Bioshock Infinite, Or Battlefeild 4. Point is, theres alot of current gen games that push the console way further than this game does. I'm down for a PC/possible PS4 build, but don't lie and say the PS3 is capped out. Or maybe I'm just overestimating your coding abilities. there's a lot more **** in dust than in those other games. Your point? click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 887	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:01:00 - [37] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Games Haven wrote: Anyone who says that Dust has reached the limits of what the PS3 can do has never seen GTAV. Or LoU, Or Far Cry 3, Or Bioshock Infinite, Or Battlefeild 4. Point is, theres alot of current gen games that push the console way further than this game does. I'm down for a PC/possible PS4 build, but don't lie and say the PS3 is capped out. Or maybe I'm just overestimating your coding abilities. there's a lot more **** in dust than in those other games. Your point? Exactly, Dust may not look the best, but that's because the nature of the game doesn't allow for the same cheats and tricks that all those other games can use - Literately the only thing that is keeping Dust running on the PS3 the coding equivalent of black magic.
Priss N6FAA2813 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:06:00 - [38] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Games Haven wrote: Anyone who says that Dust has reached the limits of what the PS3 can do has never seen GTAV. Or LoU, Or Far Cry 3, Or Bioshock Infinite, Or Battlefeild 4. Point is, theres alot of current gen games that push the console way further than this game does. I'm down for a PC/possible PS4 build, but don't lie and say the PS3 is capped out. Or maybe I'm just overestimating your coding abilities. there's a lot more **** in dust than in those other games. Your point? There isn't more gear ,vehicles,weapons,skins,classes, maps than there was in BF3. Try again.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 663	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:09:00 - [39] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Games Haven wrote: Anyone who says that Dust has reached the limits of what the PS3 can do has never seen GTAV. Or LoU, Or Far Cry 3, Or Bioshock Infinite, Or Battlefeild 4. Point is, theres alot of current gen games that push the console way further than this game does. I'm down for a PC/possible PS4 build, but don't lie and say the PS3 is capped out. Or maybe I'm just overestimating your coding abilities. there's a lot more **** in dust than in those other games. Your point? Exactly, Dust may not look the best, but that's because the nature of the game doesn't allow for the same cheats and tricks that all those other games can use - Literately the only thing that is keeping Dust running on the PS3 the coding equivalent of black magic. Yup,and while GTAV has a huge map,it's a spec of what CCP promised of New Eden on Dust,which was something like 3000 5kx5k maps with five different temperate planets.If anyone thinks that was ever going to happen on PS3 after how slowly it took them to add the content that's in the game now,they are out of their fuqing minds!
Priss N6FAA2813 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:13:00 - [40] - Quote deleted

Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 113	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:23:00 - [41] - Quote Games Haven wrote: "Far Cry is a horrid example due to how poor the console versions were. Same with BF4 on PS3 and 360. Bad versions of the game. Bioshock was fine... But bringing up smaller linear games shows your ignorance. The only decent example is GTA 5. But, that game had 1000 people working on it to a 200 million dollar budget. Comparing like with like would be great." I'll beg to differ on the FC3 port, It was pretty sound to me. Still, I only pointed out those games because they push the console's boundaries FAR more than Dust does, regardless of port quality. I just hope they can code for PS4, considering it's literally a mid-upper tier PC. Try FR3>Blood Dragon "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
Ani X United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 100	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:25:00 - [42] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Vance Alken wrote: The PS4 is already an outdated platform. Eve Online has lasted more than a decade. No console has even neared lasting that long. Who in their right mind would make a game they plan to last that long on a device that doesn't just have an endpoint, but was already outdated at time of release? Is eve running at the same specs of a 10 year old PC or have they done graphical upgrades that would have required players to upgrade their PCs at some time over that decade. By gods you people look like stupid fucks when you make that particular argument for you're platform. Of course they had upgrades. EVE Online had even multiple clients at the same time because they made huge step in between. I know this because Hilmar was pointing to this fact when asked about PS4 support publishing a PS3 game so late in lifecycle. The problem isn't the PS3 (see all the multiplayer shooter games on PS3 that were much bigger than DUST 514 is). The hardware is complicated (cell architecture) and restricted (small memory especially), but that's no excuse for this train-wreck of a game. And everyone who has played shooters on the PS4 and knows the hardware specs of PS4, knows that the PC argument is null and void. They will try their luck with a PC player-base they haven't burnt yet in a 2 years lasting beta. But since the PS3-specific problems is only a small part of the reasons why DUST 514 failed, LEGION fail too, whether on PC or PS4. CCP would need to fire most of the Shanghai team and get more decent, experienced devs for shooter games. An FPS game has other technical requirements than an Excel-centric MMO with beautiful space wallpapers.
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:26:00 - [43] - Quote Xaerael Walkeri wrote: Games Haven wrote: I just hope they can code for PS4, considering it's literally a mid-upper tier PC. You're kidding, right? PS4 isn't mid tier, let alone upper tier. Mid-upper tier PCs were humbling PS4s on the PS4's release day, and they have only been getting faster and cheaper. You should read this article, now 6 months out of date. http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/pc-vs-ps4-xbox-one-how-to-upgrade-pc/#!IeLtL Lol, yes it is. Read here, and here. Now go lok at games and look at the "required specs." Yep, those minimums? That is what PC games are developed for, that is the floor that they all work with. PS4 is So much stronger than the mid-teir PC it isn't even funny, only the cutting edge PCs compete with the PS4, and they cost WAY WAY more. Even in 2-3 years, the baseline power levels with which PC developers target their games will still be below PS4 power levels. This is why PC games don't really lead any popular genre anywhere, they are constrained by the low-end when developing systems, and they are also hampered by OS overhead. Seriously... when was the last time a PC exclusive game had a major effect on platformers, racing games, sports games, RPGs (skyrim?? designed for consoles), fighting games and yes... even FPSes (titanfall? design for a consoles, destiny? console, Halo? console...). Face it, you can buy a console and have a greater selection of higher budget and genre bending games with a one-time investment. Sure, if you want RTS, 4X, click and point adventure, or MMOs the PC is the way to go, but you WILL be paying more for the hardware, and you WILL be paying more often for it too. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
ChowMaiDong Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:32:00 - [44] - Quote Plus 1 to Mary Plus 1 to OP Good stuff
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:40:00 - [45] - Quote Mr Sanchez Asst wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: Mr Sanchez Asst wrote: Atiim wrote: EVE: Legion couldn't be made on the PS4 because of gross-incompetence from Can't Code Properly. Wrong, Atilim, CCP can't do Legion on Playstation because they are legally and contractually isolated by Sony to stay on PS3 Making a new game for PC is the only way out. But they have to be careful and not make it appear like the move to PC Legion is an attempt to extract themselves from that contract with Sony ( btw reassuring players that Dust content - including characters- will be moved over complicates the tale they are telling). CCP can't keep up with the lies they are weaving. Hey look more mis-information Back at around EvE Vegas CCP confirmed that there was no exclusivity contract with Sony for Dust, and that there was nothing keeping them from making Dust on other platforms. Sure they wouldn't do XBOX because microsoft would not allow the game to be hosted on tranquility, but that is it. Please don't lie to people. Look kid, You need to understand some things about the world you live in but, since you're not My kid, I haven't the time to teach you I will however, leave you this: In the real wold, the words you use matter a lot. Especially when it comes to legal and binding agreements. That's why I know you're not up to speed on this matter. You suggest that CCp stated publically at Vegas that they were in no way contractually limited from developing "DUST 514" on any other platform or even doing so for PS4. Ok, thanks for you insightful input. Go cal someone else a liar please. Ha, so you couldn't respond to my statements so you decided to make up your own? What did I write again? me wrote: Back at around EvE Vegas CCP confirmed that there was no exclusivity contract with Sony for Dust, and that there was nothing keeping them from making Dust on other platforms. Sure they wouldn't do XBOX because microsoft would not allow the game to be hosted on tranquility, but that is it. Oh yeah, CCP did say that they were not limited, and they could bring Dust elsewhere. I just love the fact that in your mind somehow CCP didn't state this, and whatever else you are jabbering on about. You must be a republican. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Games Haven DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:19:00 - [46] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: PS4 is low mid teir these days; my own computer is probably lowest of the high tier with 24 gigs DDRx3 60ms 2nd gen i7 and a nividia titan. And it was buitl before the ps4 came out and there are quite a few games that when I throw it into ultra I get 8-12 frames or less a second. Planetside 2 is still amongst them ( and despite the low frames still plays 'responsibly' and smooth just dont look at the explosions from two liberators.) What one game that can make my computer graphics lag??? Cookie clicker in the background.... Thats very interesting, now f**k off. Screw it, I'm Hynox Xitio.
Games Haven DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:20:00 - [47] - Quote Ducttape Tinker wrote: Games Haven wrote: "Far Cry is a horrid example due to how poor the console versions were. Same with BF4 on PS3 and 360. Bad versions of the game. Bioshock was fine... But bringing up smaller linear games shows your ignorance. The only decent example is GTA 5. But, that game had 1000 people working on it to a 200 million dollar budget. Comparing like with like would be great." I'll beg to differ on the FC3 port, It was pretty sound to me. Still, I only pointed out those games because they push the console's boundaries FAR more than Dust does, regardless of port quality. I just hope they can code for PS4, considering it's literally a mid-upper tier PC. Try FR3>Blood Dragon It's pretty good. Screw it, I'm Hynox Xitio.
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:23:00 - [48] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: PS4 is low mid teir these days; my own computer is probably lowest of the high tier with 24 gigs DDRx3 60ms 2nd gen i7 and a nividia titan. And it was buitl before the ps4 came out and there are quite a few games that when I throw it into ultra I get 8-12 frames or less a second. Planetside 2 is still amongst them ( and despite the low frames still plays 'responsibly' and smooth just dont look at the explosions from two liberators.) What one game that can make my computer graphics lag??? Cookie clicker in the background.... Why in gods name are you a representative for this CONSOLE GAME? Seriously, why? and lol you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. PS4 is still better than 99.9% of gaming PCs out there. Just go look at steam's statistics. Just resign already. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Kendo Bushido TAC2-CULL DECIMATION 3	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:26:00 - [49] - Quote plus 1


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