DUST Search - So what di you guys think of the Legion gameplay?

Gemini Cuspid wrote:

Alucard Fang wrote:

Dexter307 wrote:

Alucard Fang wrote:

Atiim wrote:

You must have pretty bad aim then
The ttk is honesly STILL to low.

Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome.

Yep, its your aim.
Stop making excuses

Are you serious? Lol. I've literally unloaded a clip on someone, with hitmarkers. They didn't die, they barely took damage. Hit detection sucks, aiming is sluggish, the entire gunplay is off. It already looks so much smoother from that gameplay video. I don't know how CCP never got the gunplay down on PS3, or why they even thought it was good and continued to release the game...

The geek in me says "seriously stop white-knighting the game". You can say it's aim but at the end of the day its a probability based machine where even if aim were correlated to real-world effects, this a game engine built on probability which ultimately implies that you can actually still hit but miss someone at the same time. Yes, its sort of quantum mechanics in a way.

This is the EvE universe where if it's broke, it can still be broken more. Likewise it doesn't matter what the hell Legion looks like, if it's also a broken game too would it looking better make us not think of that for 1 second?

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Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:54:00 - [1] - Quote Looks pretty good to me. Kill time is shorter it seems. No more dancing in circles. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP Video there is good quality, no commentary.
AToS SaGa III Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 52	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:55:00 - [2] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Looks pretty good to me. Kill time is shorter it seems. No more dancing in circles. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP Video there is good quality, no commentary. You can make none of these judgements based on these scrubs performances.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7688	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:55:00 - [3] - Quote I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514 Spent money? Call 1-800-345-SONY for refunds
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 356	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:57:00 - [4] - Quote Remember the first gameplays released of DUST? Well, they look nothing like what we have today. I imagine it will be the same with Legion. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
Kane Fyea 2714	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:58:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. Rogue is from EA.....
Sardonk Eternia RisingSuns Dark Taboo 246	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. Rogue is from EA..... His name is ROUGE not ROGUE.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:00:00 - [7] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Remember the first gameplays released of DUST? Well, they look nothing like what we have today. I imagine it will be the same with Legion. You mean the Tech Demos from 2009 which was running on Carbon? No wonder... This is actually running in real time. It's basically the PS3 version of Dust set to Ultra High Graphics in a way.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 318	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:00:00 - [8] - Quote Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:01:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. I don't mind it. It doesn't need to be like Call Of Duty, but I don't want to dance around and run back and forth through cover for 2 minutes just to kill someone.
Kane Fyea 2716	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:01:00 - [10] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. Rogue is from EA..... His name is ROUGE not ROGUE. Sorry lol.

Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 - [11] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke.
castba Penguin's March 415	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:03:00 - [12] - Quote I can't see why the current ps3 dust doesn't look like that. Nothing special except the orbital effect was nice.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3469	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:04:00 - [13] - Quote His name is CCP MUD.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 318	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:04:00 - [14] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:05:00 - [15] - Quote Just depends. More than likely the PS3 could handle it. It all depends on how much is going on screen, how many players there are in a match, amount of vehicles and so on. I doubt CCP is knowledgeable about PS3 architecture like the first party studios are. Using the SPUs and all.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:05:00 - [16] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor. It is. I used to play it lots. But obviously, even Dust on PS3 looks better.
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 626	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:06:00 - [17] - Quote Awesome sauce '#PCMasterRace
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1567	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:07:00 - [18] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. I don't mind it. It doesn't need to be like Call Of Duty, but I don't want to dance around and run back and forth through cover for 2 minutes just to kill someone. You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 318	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:09:00 - [19] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor. It is. I used to play it lots. But obviously, even Dust on PS3 looks better. That might be a bit of a stretch. Pse launch games look better than dust.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:10:00 - [20] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. I don't mind it. It doesn't need to be like Call Of Duty, but I don't want to dance around and run back and forth through cover for 2 minutes just to kill someone. You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low. Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome.

Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:11:00 - [21] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor. It is. I used to play it lots. But obviously, even Dust on PS3 looks better. That might be a bit of a stretch. Ps3 launch games look better than dust. http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/star-wars-battlefront-elite-psp-hero_fights__10_.jpg
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 626	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:13:00 - [22] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Remember the first gameplays released of DUST? Well, they look nothing like what we have today. I imagine it will be the same with Legion. Because those were two different engines '#PCMasterRace
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1567	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:14:00 - [23] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. I don't mind it. It doesn't need to be like Call Of Duty, but I don't want to dance around and run back and forth through cover for 2 minutes just to kill someone. You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low. Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome. Yep, its your aim. Stop making excuses
Powerh8er Arrogance. Caps and Mercs 418	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:14:00 - [24] - Quote I really liked what i saw. It actually looked like a real world with trees and stuff.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:16:00 - [25] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. I don't mind it. It doesn't need to be like Call Of Duty, but I don't want to dance around and run back and forth through cover for 2 minutes just to kill someone. You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low. Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome. Yep, its your aim. Stop making excuses Are you serious? Lol. I've literally unloaded a clip on someone, with hitmarkers. They didn't die, they barely took damage. Hit detection sucks, aiming is sluggish, the entire gunplay is off. It already looks so much smoother from that gameplay video. I don't know how CCP never got the gunplay down on PS3, or why they even thought it was good and continued to release the game...
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1568	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:30:00 - [26] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Are you serious? Lol. I've literally unloaded a clip on someone, with hitmarkers. They didn't die, they barely took damage. Hit detection sucks, aiming is sluggish, the entire gunplay is off. It already looks so much smoother from that gameplay video. I don't know how CCP never got the gunplay down on PS3, or why they even thought it was good and continued to release the game... Hit detection is better than its ever been for most weapons. Other than the shotgun aiming feel great.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 299	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:35:00 - [27] - Quote I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1568	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:38:00 - [28] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it. facepalm
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:40:00 - [29] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it. facepalm Mind putting in further elaboration?
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:45:00 - [30] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low. Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome. Yep, its your aim. Stop making excuses Are you serious? Lol. I've literally unloaded a clip on someone, with hitmarkers. They didn't die, they barely took damage. Hit detection sucks, aiming is sluggish, the entire gunplay is off. It already looks so much smoother from that gameplay video. I don't know how CCP never got the gunplay down on PS3, or why they even thought it was good and continued to release the game... The geek in me says "seriously stop white-knighting the game". You can say it's aim but at the end of the day its a probability based machine where even if aim were correlated to real-world effects, this a game engine built on probability which ultimately implies that you can actually still hit but miss someone at the same time. Yes, its sort of quantum mechanics in a way. This is the EvE universe where if it's broke, it can still be broken more. Likewise it doesn't matter what the hell Legion looks like, if it's also a broken game too would it looking better make us not think of that for 1 second?

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1568	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:46:00 - [31] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it. facepalm Mind putting in further elaboration? No
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 502	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:47:00 - [32] - Quote wow. it looks amazing. I can't wait to for when dust gets to that point... oh wait. nevermind. yeah, it was cool. hope it's free 2 play. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:47:00 - [33] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Atiim wrote: You must have pretty bad aim then The ttk is honesly STILL to low. Aim? Lol. There is no aim. This game fights with you when you try to aim. The aiming SUCKS. So does hit detection. It's never been the same since Chromosome. Yep, its your aim. Stop making excuses Are you serious? Lol. I've literally unloaded a clip on someone, with hitmarkers. They didn't die, they barely took damage. Hit detection sucks, aiming is sluggish, the entire gunplay is off. It already looks so much smoother from that gameplay video. I don't know how CCP never got the gunplay down on PS3, or why they even thought it was good and continued to release the game... The geek in me says "seriously stop white-knighting the game". You can say it's aim but at the end of the day its a probability based machine where even if aim were correlated to real-world effects, this a game engine built on probability which ultimately implies that you can actually still hit but miss someone at the same time. Yes, its sort of quantum mechanics in a way. This is the EvE universe where if it's broke, it can still be broken more. Likewise it doesn't matter what the hell Legion looks like, if it's also a broken game too would it looking better make us not think of that for 1 second? 'This is New Eden, so it's okay if you hit someone, but still miss" Lolk Yes, Legion can still be a broken game. The gunplay already looks vastly better from that video though.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:48:00 - [34] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it. facepalm Mind putting in further elaboration? No You don't mind? Okay good.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1568	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:54:00 - [35] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: I haven't played since 1.4 or 1.5. Guess they finally fixed it. facepalm Mind putting in further elaboration? No You don't mind? Okay good. Makes no sense I have no idea what your talking about
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:55:00 - [36] - Quote I said do you mind? You said no.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1568	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:58:00 - [37] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: I said do you mind? You said no. And i have no idea what your trying if i mind about
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 823	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:00:00 - [38] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hope they don't go with a low TTK model. Rogue is from EA..... His name is ROUGE not ROGUE. It's pronounced DOUCHE. We can pickle that.
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 44	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:05:00 - [39] - Quote the Project Legion gameplay looked amazing far better than what dust could have ever achieve on its current console.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:06:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: I said do you mind? You said no. And i have no idea what your trying if i mind about If you mind elaborating on your faceplam post... I guess, you're like, look at this idiot, hasn't played in 3 or 4 updates and still thinks aiming is **** lel

vogon mugwump Silent but Violent 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:07:00 - [41] - Quote What did i think of the game play? It looks familiar somehow...?? Oh yeah someone polished up the original DUST514 prototype which had you walking around your warbarge, had trophy rooms and supposed interaction with other mercs and a commander mode and had fighters, LAVS and HAVS in as well as mobile MCC's and your commander dropping outpost compaonenmts as a makshift base to stage from....
inohahna mamotto Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:08:00 - [42] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor. speaking of star wars battle front have you guys seen the videos of battlefront 3 where they shown gameplay of being able to fly from space battles onto planet battles?
Guiltless D667 32	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:17:00 - [43] - Quote all that color A Strange Game.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:18:00 - [44] - Quote inohahna mamotto wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Looks almost as good as star wars battlefront 1. No wait. Thats an insult to star wars. Cool joke. Star wars battlefront is amazing. To be compared to it is an honor. speaking of star wars battle front have you guys seen the videos of battlefront 3 where they shown gameplay of being able to fly from space battles onto planet battles? Link?
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 777	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:02:00 - [45] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: Mind putting in further elaboration? No You don't mind? Okay good. Makes no sense I have no idea what your talking about It's a... very uhm... old saying, basically what he's asking you "do you mind" means something closer to "would it bother you if" So he said "would it bother you if" you elaborate, and you said "No", meaning, it would not bother you to explain the situation. Then there is an implied meaning from that in which you would start explaining your reasoning. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Orenji Jiji 392	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:12:00 - [46] - Quote Higher res, flashy fluff around the map. **** textures, ** map, ** hud, hud items (objectives) & menus, **** model movement, shittiest bob I've ever seen. Yup, seems like we're back to "carbon" stage -- clueless team of monkeys prepares a tech demo and cons another group of people. :) SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, B-Series punch. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
Hecarim Van Hohen 1271	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:16:00 - [47] - Quote Looked pretty cool considering they didn't spend all that much time in making it (atleast that's what I think was said) and tbh everything looked a bit better than Dust (except that hp display, that was clumsy imo) "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro t¢«
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 778	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:17:00 - [48] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: Higher res, flashy fluff around the map. **** textures, ** map, ** hud, hud items (objectives) & menus, **** model movement, shittiest bob I've ever seen. Yup, seems like we're back to "carbon" stage -- clueless team of monkeys prepares a tech demo and cons another group of people. :) The UI was distracting me the whole time cause it was bouncing in opposition to the actual helmet motions at times, plus, the ammo icon inside the ammo counter was changing distance from the meter.... If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 571	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:18:00 - [49] - Quote Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the Project Legion gameplay looked amazing far better than what dust could have ever achieve on its current console. So did Carbon.
whakatane77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:19:00 - [50] - Quote Why does anyone think ccp will deliver on false promises? Also no pc fps players lasted more than a month on dust, so they don't give a **** about dust players and won't transfer anything .

Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:21:00 - [51] - Quote If they hadn't been limited by the PS3 they could've spent time working on those promises instead of squeezing every last bit of power out to get the game to work at all.
Cosgar 9225	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:23:00 - [52] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: If they hadn't been limited by the PS3 they could've spent time working on those promises instead of squeezing every last bit of power out to get the game to work at all. So the PS3 was to blame for a terrible beta format, questionable decisions, and not delivering on simple things like open market and PVE... This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 300	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:26:00 - [53] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: If they hadn't been limited by the PS3 they could've spent time working on those promises instead of squeezing every last bit of power out to get the game to work at all. So the PS3 was to blame for a terrible beta format, questionable decisions, and not delivering on simple things like open market and PVE... Not all of those. But in a way, yes. CCP should not have added ANY new content until the core mechanics were fixed. And they're still not.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3889	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:41:00 - [54] - Quote I wasnt impressed by the video in the slightest. Same exact game they've had since forever. Now you're all just seeing how it looks when they toggle on better textures and filters.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2481	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:48:00 - [55] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Remember the first gameplays released of DUST? Well, they look nothing like what we have today. I imagine it will be the same with Legion. You mean the Tech Demos from 2009 which was running on Carbon? No wonder... This is actually running in real time. It's basically the PS3 version of Dust set to Ultra High Graphics in a way. Well considering both games run on unreal 3... 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
spoony moon Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 47	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:49:00 - [56] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: If they hadn't been limited by the PS3 they could've spent time working on those promises instead of squeezing every last bit of power out to get the game to work at all. It's important to remember , they were super confident PvE would come out in 2012, and mecha in 2013. It's a shame really.I'm glad Legion is hapening, but not like this... Not like this CCP...
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 205	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:50:00 - [57] - Quote The merc in the video had some nasty jerking motion when falling a few inches off of those rocks. Reminded me of how it currently feels when trying to get up a mountain on foot. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^


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