DUST Search - What is your future? CPM's / CEO's / Guide Creators

Dirks Macker wrote:

I'm a CEO of the DUST corp representing a rather large EVE corp belonging to the most powerful alliance in that game.

Getting our members to play DUST has been an issue for a number of reasons. The biggest roadblock has been the platform it is on as most are PC gamers. Following closely behind has been a tangible benefit for DUST activity which benefits Sov-Holding alliances in EVE. We've had many people interested enough to try the game out, but only about a handful remain active in a community of around 500 EVE players.

The hook for those in our corp and alliance that play DUST has been that "some day" the work we have put in building up our SP and bankrolls will be used to our advantage in a much larger metagame. It was assumed, due to prior promises by CCP, that this was coming down the road. I know the word "endgame" is avoided in a sandbox game like EVE, but the desire to control or compete in a meaningful EVE-DUST link was the endgame which would have made all the work we put in playing a lobby shooter worthwhile.

Granted, I was skeptical that could be accomplished on the PS3. The announcement of Legion has me excited at the possibilities, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth over the false pretenses my friends and I have been playing under.

Personally, unless I receive confirmation that I will be able to port my character or SP over to Legion, I will be playing a lot less DUST 514. I won't be buying those 30-day passive boosters or Omega implants for events.

Even if I do keep playing, It will be a much tougher sell to EVE players as the illusion DUST will someday really matter in EVE is gone.

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Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:56:00 - [1] - Quote This is for people with constructive feedback. I'd really like to hear from CPM's and CEO's. To Leaders / CPM's: What do you intended to do? Continue with Dust 514? / Start with Legion? / Both? To CEO's: What do you intended to do with your corporations? Will you try to move to PC? Guide Creators: Will you write for Eve: Legion? Will you try to re-purpose current guides? What is your future? The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:57:00 - [2] - Quote Royce Kronos wrote: This is for people with constructive feedback. I'd really like to hear from CPM's and CEO's. To Leaders / CPM's: What do you intended to do? Continue with Dust 514? / Start with Legion? / Both? To CEO's: What do you intended to do with your corporations? Will you try to move to PC? Guide Creators: Will you write for Eve: Legion? Will you try to re-purpose current guides? What is your future? Leave game for seventh time XD "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1401	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:58:00 - [3] - Quote Think its time to forget about CCP and their games... move on to another company and their game... This is one of the worst crime a company would milk out their community. *Assassination is my thing.*
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 257	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote I m not a Ceo but an old director of Maphia Clan, Maphia Clan have played Soldier of fortune 2,MAG and Dust now. We will find another fps and move our clan there, some will come to the other game and we will create another player base. Will that game be Legion? I dont think so, but who knows.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 811	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:06:00 - [5] - Quote Exodus. I played eve back in 2009 and new Eden was one of my favorite sci fi universes. I saw this coming and asked for it, killing dust and starting over with a new team and apology. I didn't anticipate them handling it this poorly and shaven us under the bus and completely ignoring dust at fanfest. I expected transparency and an apology. I already planned on quiting if the news today wasn't radical. while it was radical it's radical in the wrong way. The whole situation leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I'm done pretty much. I reccomend everyone call Sony and ask for refunds immediately and make a really big deal aboout it. Ccp is gonna take a huge reputation hit for this. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:06:00 - [6] - Quote jhon hartigan wrote: I m not a Ceo but an old director of Maphia Clan, Maphia Clan have played Soldier of fortune 2,MAG and Dust now. We will find another fps and move our clan there, some will come to the other game and we will create another player base. Will that game be Legion? I dont think so, but who knows. That's for the reply. Good luck with your corp. Still hoping to hear from some CPM's. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3237	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 - [7] - Quote Well I did buy a HD PVR for Dust specifically, but I'll just start recording stuff for legion. However, I'm excited to see that they're changing up the NPE drastically for legion so that I won't have to make the tutorials I've been planning for Dust. It will be a lot easier to help new players with the new skill system and role skill tree design. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 - [8] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Think its time to forget about CCP and their games... move on to another company and their game... This is one of the worst crime a company would milk out their community. Its actually one of the most iluminating comments today i think its really taht time. "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 694	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:12:00 - [9] - Quote CEO of SAM-MIK. As the CEO of a hybrid EVE:DUST corp I will carry us on, into the black void for now as the time for legion draws near. I will log in to New Eden everyday as I have been for years now. I will fight hard with my guys on the frontlines to try to have them enjoy the battle. I will guide them at every instance they need it. I will ride this smoldering wreck into Caldari Prime and rise from it's ashes more bitter and more veteran than before. I will be angry and betrayed and will possibly never let it go. But I will have all I've ever wanted. PVE drones dynamic maps, possible epic brawls tiericide. My deepest regret is that a large portion of my DUST guys will not follow us into the great beyond. They came here for the free console game that took them outta reality for a while. I am as butthurt as the rest of you, But more heartbroken for those of us that will not carry on. Good fight fellow DUST bunnies Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:14:00 - [10] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Exodus. I played eve back in 2009 and new Eden was one of my favorite sci fi universes. I saw this coming and asked for it, killing dust and starting over with a new team and apology. I didn't anticipate them handling it this poorly and shaven us under the bus and completely ignoring dust at fanfest. I expected transparency and an apology. I already planned on quiting if the news today wasn't radical. while it was radical it's radical in the wrong way. The whole situation leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I'm done pretty much. I reccomend everyone call Sony and ask for refunds immediately and make a really big deal aboout it. Ccp is gonna take a huge reputation hit for this. I think this is possible, but highly unlikely. A. Dust 514 is still going to be supported, and has brought in funds for Sony. All investments have a chance of going south, which is why they are risks. CCP as a company will be fine, but the steps that they take in the coming future will be key in saving a lot of players that have, and still are invested in Dust 514. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn

Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:16:00 - [11] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Well I did buy a HD PVR for Dust specifically, but I'll just start recording stuff for legion. However, I'm excited to see that they're changing up the NPE drastically for legion so that I won't have to make the tutorials I've been planning for Dust. It will be a lot easier to help new players with the new skill system and role skill tree design. Good to hear that. I'm hoping that a lot of stuff can be re-purposed for Eve: Legion. Especially guide and all. I'd like to see how they implement the new classes differentials in Eve: Legion. Good luck with your recordings. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Cyrus Grevare warravens Final Resolution. 199	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:16:00 - [12] - Quote Wait and see for a bit till all the commotion settles, I didn't see the 'keynotes', but from what I'm reading it's an abrupt game over. I'm shocked and disappointed. If this is the path the games is going towards I don't see myself following it. www.protofits.com - a Dust 514 fitting tool
ContraBanJoe Bob Loblaw Space Attorneys FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 354	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:19:00 - [13] - Quote As the leader of the 10th largest alliance in all of New Eden. I am spearheading a REVOLT! I will be in contact with many of you over the next few days. I am remaining in EVE / DUST514, but until I receive an apology for how things have been handled regarding the unveiling of LEGION, my guys are REVOLTING! FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE Planetary Response Organisation / Faction Warfare Army / Good Luck Or At least Try
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:19:00 - [14] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: CEO of SAM-MIK. As the CEO of a hybrid EVE:DUST corp I will carry us on, into the black void for now as the time for legion draws near. I will log in to New Eden everyday as I have been for years now. I will fight hard with my guys on the frontlines to try to have them enjoy the battle. I will guide them at every instance they need it. I will ride this smoldering wreck into Caldari Prime and rise from it's ashes more bitter and more veteran than before. I will be angry and betrayed and will possibly never let it go. But I will have all I've ever wanted. PVE drones dynamic maps, possible epic brawls tiericide. My deepest regret is that a large portion of my DUST guys will not follow us into the great beyond. They came here for the free console game that took them outta reality for a while. I am as butthurt as the rest of you, But more heartbroken for those of us that will not carry on. Good fight fellow DUST bunnies Good to know, and thanks for your reply. I hope many will follow in your footsteps. The concept of Dust 514 is so deep that the future of this concept cannot be kill by this. I'm hoping more people will understand this and continue with developing this. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:21:00 - [15] - Quote ContraBanJoe wrote: As the leader of the 10th largest alliance in all of New Eden. I am spearheading a REVOLT! I will be in contact with many of you over the next few days. I am remaining in EVE / DUST514, but until I receive an apology for how things have been handled regarding the unveiling of LEGION, my guys are REVOLTING! Define revolting? Yes, we are hurting, but is throwing a tantrum the best way of moving forward? What could you do that is much more constructive and better for the community? I'm not attacking your "Revolt", but if you're going to expend time and energy, do something useful. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
ContraBanJoe Bob Loblaw Space Attorneys FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 356	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:24:00 - [16] - Quote Royce Kronos wrote: ContraBanJoe wrote: As the leader of the 10th largest alliance in all of New Eden. I am spearheading a REVOLT! I will be in contact with many of you over the next few days. I am remaining in EVE / DUST514, but until I receive an apology for how things have been handled regarding the unveiling of LEGION, my guys are REVOLTING! Define revolting? Yes, we are hurting, but is throwing a tantrum the best way of moving forward? What could you do that is much more constructive and better for the community? I'm not attacking your "Revolt", but if you're going to expend time and energy, do something useful. Trust me, this will be useful. I was looking for something to do since were not getting any market or serious overhaul to PC anymore. Viva la revolution! FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE Planetary Response Organisation / Faction Warfare Army / Good Luck Or At least Try
VIRDJINN Rampage Diaper Rash. 144	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:27:00 - [17] - Quote Legendary slayer and squad leader of ERAs A team reporting in I will continue to slay babies in other realms. CCP has lost my support. I failed English as a 2nd Language and wear a seatbelt on the shortbus. don't laugh.. I only have 1 eye
Dirks Macker Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 123	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:27:00 - [18] - Quote I'm a CEO of the DUST corp representing a rather large EVE corp belonging to the most powerful alliance in that game. Getting our members to play DUST has been an issue for a number of reasons. The biggest roadblock has been the platform it is on as most are PC gamers. Following closely behind has been a tangible benefit for DUST activity which benefits Sov-Holding alliances in EVE. We've had many people interested enough to try the game out, but only about a handful remain active in a community of around 500 EVE players. The hook for those in our corp and alliance that play DUST has been that "some day" the work we have put in building up our SP and bankrolls will be used to our advantage in a much larger metagame. It was assumed, due to prior promises by CCP, that this was coming down the road. I know the word "endgame" is avoided in a sandbox game like EVE, but the desire to control or compete in a meaningful EVE-DUST link was the endgame which would have made all the work we put in playing a lobby shooter worthwhile. Granted, I was skeptical that could be accomplished on the PS3. The announcement of Legion has me excited at the possibilities, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth over the false pretenses my friends and I have been playing under. Personally, unless I receive confirmation that I will be able to port my character or SP over to Legion, I will be playing a lot less DUST 514. I won't be buying those 30-day passive boosters or Omega implants for events. Even if I do keep playing, It will be a much tougher sell to EVE players as the illusion DUST will someday really matter in EVE is gone. Enlightened Indoctrination Blog
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:29:00 - [19] - Quote ContraBanJoe wrote: Royce Kronos wrote: ContraBanJoe wrote: As the leader of the 10th largest alliance in all of New Eden. I am spearheading a REVOLT! I will be in contact with many of you over the next few days. I am remaining in EVE / DUST514, but until I receive an apology for how things have been handled regarding the unveiling of LEGION, my guys are REVOLTING! Define revolting? Yes, we are hurting, but is throwing a tantrum the best way of moving forward? What could you do that is much more constructive and better for the community? I'm not attacking your "Revolt", but if you're going to expend time and energy, do something useful. Trust me, this will be useful. I was looking for something to do since were not getting any market or serious overhaul to PC anymore. Viva la revolution! Well, whatever you do. Good luck man. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 497	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:32:00 - [20] - Quote CEO of "Thanes of DUST" The corp will move to Legion when the time comes and will continue its noble support where needed. Till then DUST will be a hobby game and i'll still see you on the field and forums. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie

Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:33:00 - [21] - Quote Dirks Macker wrote: I'm a CEO of the DUST corp representing a rather large EVE corp belonging to the most powerful alliance in that game. Getting our members to play DUST has been an issue for a number of reasons. The biggest roadblock has been the platform it is on as most are PC gamers. Following closely behind has been a tangible benefit for DUST activity which benefits Sov-Holding alliances in EVE. We've had many people interested enough to try the game out, but only about a handful remain active in a community of around 500 EVE players. The hook for those in our corp and alliance that play DUST has been that "some day" the work we have put in building up our SP and bankrolls will be used to our advantage in a much larger metagame. It was assumed, due to prior promises by CCP, that this was coming down the road. I know the word "endgame" is avoided in a sandbox game like EVE, but the desire to control or compete in a meaningful EVE-DUST link was the endgame which would have made all the work we put in playing a lobby shooter worthwhile. Granted, I was skeptical that could be accomplished on the PS3. The announcement of Legion has me excited at the possibilities, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth over the false pretenses my friends and I have been playing under. Personally, unless I receive confirmation that I will be able to port my character or SP over to Legion, I will be playing a lot less DUST 514. I won't be buying those 30-day passive boosters or Omega implants for events. Even if I do keep playing, It will be a much tougher sell to EVE players as the illusion DUST will someday really matter in EVE is gone. Thank you for this. It's very enlightening. I hoping to expand on my Eve knowledge anyway, but having Eve: Legion on PC does open up possibilities for more Eve players to join in. My only concern may be what happened in the beginning of Dust 514, with some ideas that cannot transfer from Eve to an FPS, however with what CCP has learned from Dust, and where they are starting, I feel like they've got a better understanding of FPS's in general. I look forward to seeing more of your Eve corp in Eve: Legion. Godspeed to you. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:34:00 - [22] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: CEO of "Thanes of DUST" The corp will move to Legion when the time comes and will continue its noble support where needed. Till then DUST will be a hobby game and i'll still see you on the field and forums. Good to know. I'll see you on the field also. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Archer Yorcot S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:34:00 - [23] - Quote Co-Director here- We are discussing this internally with CEO Kiabanor, but so far the reception has been overwhelmingly negative. To be clear, no one is upset that Dust is moving to the PC. After all, its in the game's best interest to do so for long term survival. However, CCP failed to elaborate on Dust's near term content cycle and what steps (if any) they are taking to address some of Dust's biggest shortcomings (broken matchmaking, broken PC, broken vehicle-AV balance ect...) Without seeing concrete, tangible efforts to fix these issues, many of us in S.e.V.e.N. feel that CCP did a **** poor job of explaining how Dust will improve from now until Legion's release. What incentive do we have to log on now? We don't even have confirmation that our characters will transfer to Legion, so why bother putting anymore time into them? PS: No PvE for Dust? Kiss new player retention goodbye. This forum signature is OP.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1167	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:37:00 - [24] - Quote CEO of Havok Core, early closed beta vet, Basically inform my player base about what is happening thus far and wait for CCP to clarify their stance on what they can do about our investment in the game. I expect even less people to login now and no one will bother to buy any more packs/aur. Like others, I was sold on the never having to be the new player again. I could have been sold on the new idea but it was so poorly executed and announced to us, I'm not sure many dust players will be willing to stick around. My perspective about CCP is on shaky ground at this point. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected] // DustLottery.com
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4824	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:40:00 - [25] - Quote Royce Kronos wrote: This is for people with constructive feedback. I'd really like to hear from CPM's and CEO's. To Leaders / CPM's: What do you intended to do? Continue with Dust 514? / Start with Legion? / Both? To CEO's: What do you intended to do with your corporations? Will you try to move to PC? Guide Creators: Will you write for Eve: Legion? Will you try to re-purpose current guides? What is your future? as CEO I plan to remind everyone how bad CCP is. Why not to trust them or to play there games. I will become an advocate to all things anti-CCP. A reason to logic to fight there illogical lies and purposely-misscommunicated information, such as the future of this game. They lied to us, to our faces. It's unforgivable. The worst act a company to make to it's consumers. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2857	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:41:00 - [26] - Quote Don't know about my corp, but speaking personally as a guide writer, I'm out. If I wanted to play PC games I already would be. If Legion ever comes to PS4 and I can keep my character (the slim possibility of such being the only reason I am not going to biomass my chars) then I may come back. Otherwise CCP can suck it. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:41:00 - [27] - Quote Archer Yorcot wrote: Co-Director here- We are discussing this internally with CEO Kiabanor, but so far the reception has been overwhelmingly negative. To be clear, no one is upset that Dust is moving to the PC. After all, its in the game's best interest to do so for long term survival. However, CCP failed to elaborate on Dust's near term content cycle and what steps (if any) they are taking to address some of Dust's biggest shortcomings (broken matchmaking, broken PC, broken vehicle-AV balance ect...) Without seeing concrete, tangible efforts to fix these issues, many of us in S.e.V.e.N. feel that CCP did a **** poor job of explaining how Dust will improve from now until Legion's release. What incentive do we have to log on now? We don't even have confirmation that our characters will transfer to Legion, so why bother putting anymore time into them? PS: No PvE for Dust? Kiss new player retention goodbye. Yes, I expect my corp to take the information pretty negatively also. Some of them are solely console players and have no interest or money, buying or building a PC that can effectively play PC games. Most of my corp will be playing Destiny when it comes out, however, our whole initial experience was based on Dust 514 and the notion that we would always have something to fall back on. Many games do not support many players, and Dust does. I, myself, do intent to move, but I am unsure how many of my corp mates will also do so. Anyway, thanks for your input. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 161	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:59:00 - [28] - Quote Brush Master wrote: CEO of Havok Core, early closed beta vet, Basically inform my player base about what is happening thus far and wait for CCP to clarify their stance on what they can do about our investment in the game. I expect even less people to login now and no one will bother to buy any more packs/aur. Like others, I was sold on the never having to be the new player again. I could have been sold on the new idea but it was so poorly executed and announced to us, I'm not sure many dust players will be willing to stick around. My perspective about CCP is on shaky ground at this point. I too, do hope that CCP will clarify the future of Dust, and as a 30 mil player, I hope that I won't have to start from scratch also. However, I do understand programming and legal complications, and will not be entirely surprised if my character does not transfer. But I do worry about solely console players and the continued development of Dust 514. I look forward for further clarifications from CCP and CPM's. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 161	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:32:00 - [29] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: as CEO I plan to remind everyone how bad CCP is. Why not to trust them or to play there games. I will become an advocate to all things anti-CCP. A reason to logic to fight there illogical lies and purposely-misscommunicated information, such as the future of this game. They lied to us, to our faces. It's unforgivable. The worst act a company to make to it's consumers. I don't think they lied to us, I do think that Dust 514 fell short of a lot of our expectations. However, we could also blame some of the trolling / demoralizing people in our community for that. Mis-communication is a definate, but not a deal breaker. I hope that there will be future clarifications involving Dust 514. John Demonsbane wrote: Don't know about my corp, but speaking personally as a guide writer, I'm out. If I wanted to play PC games I already would be. If Legion ever comes to PS4 and I can keep my character (the slim possibility of such being the only reason I am not going to biomass my chars) then I may come back. Otherwise CCP can suck it. I understand your sentiment. I was hoping for a PS4 release, but in lieu of that, I feel that Eve: Legion is a good step forward. I know, I will try to compile plain text and html texts of my current guide compilation. I do wish you luck on your ventures. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn
Royce Kronos Sanguis Defense Syndicate 162	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:52:00 - [30] - Quote Bump for the responses. The future belongs to the few of us still willing to get our hands dirty. SDSyn



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