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SubZero DeZigns
Don't ask me to Corp
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:24:00 -
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As the quote says below that Dust514 still has life.
Quote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. CCP Rouge Executive Producer - DUST 514 / Project Legion Dev Blog
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:26:00 -
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Support or improve.. Blah. That could be fixing all remaining 1.8 issues, stealing our identities and buying boats and then throwing our characters out the airlock into the sun...
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 -
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I have a hard time believing Dust will *really* be supported moving forward. I mean just consider that most of the staff has been working on Legion, and the result of all that work is stunning. But look at 1.8's largest and most glaring glitch: you spawned in and your skills didn't apply. Certainly, just seeing the hp bars not full when spawning in would have been the most obvious sign that something was wrong--and would easily have been seen by a QA department--yet this bug somehow made it to launch with 1.8, and it's likely due to the smaller staff actually working on Dust. So will Dust conte to be developed? Unlikely, just based on the degree of polish that came with 1.8.
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Khan Hun
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:36:00 -
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Dust might be supported, but really who cares? It will stay on a dated platform, has no future in terms of development and the player base will fall through the floor over the next week.
Killing a game can be done in other ways besides just shutting down the server, and dust has just been taken out back and shot. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:41:00 -
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By supported they mean that it will still be up on PSN and people can still play it and any dumb newbie that happens upon the game and thinks its good can give CCP money. But everything that vets like myself supported and continued to play this game for isn't coming. Dust 514 will remain the POS lobby shooter it is while Eve: legion becomes the game I was sold.
Its bait and switch
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Chris F2112
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:41:00 -
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It will be supported only in terms of having operating servers. There won't be any more content updates- those will all be saved for Legion. Basically this is the end of Dust ever having new content. There's no longer some great game at the end of the tunnel, that game is now on PC and won't have anything to do with Dust besides the fact it uses most of it's assets.
So basically CCP is just pulling the plug on development but keeping the servers around to milk booster money from anyone stupid enough to continue buying them. |
Roland Trenshaw
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:42:00 -
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Can't help but feel a bit burned. Not sure how they are going to continue having a player base with no new content on the way. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:42:00 -
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Would love another patch, would shop for it after rage dies down a bit.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:44:00 -
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My guess is the super delayed and riddled code we've see so far is actually a result of splitting teams prior to this fanfest that taxed the team that usually supported us with less resources to do so. A better development plan from the start could have prevented a lot of these issues but I think the closer to fanfest we got, the more we saw how ****** up everything suddenly got with hot fixes needed almost daily as they scrambled to get a video and some sort of half ass presentation of legion out the door right on the heels of a 1.8 patch.
That being said, I think things will calm down a little but support is going to be slower than ever. Splitting any resources like that causes issues. They say they're splitting 'devs' but it makes me wonder what roles those 'devs' actually are and how it affects development.
IE, are you splitting off 6 devs but sharing the same Graphics Designer dude? Do both teams have their own QA teams? Or does everything funnel to the same QA team and thus is first come, first serve and anything in queue must wait. If events happen for one side and not the other, does that bottleneck one?
Either way, you should expect support for Dust514 to be few and far between and if you think of the lifetime of ps3, why would this infrequent support continue for more than a year?
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:44:00 -
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I think CCP has really shown how they will support Dust from now on during the DUST Keynote and the DUST Progression at Fanfest. It was great support.
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Kelestia Colvolian
Commando clan
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:45:00 -
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They've already confirmed that PVE won't be coming to DUST, so that's pretty much put the kibosh on that much sought-after development. I doubt very much if they'll put in a player-driven market or any of the other stuff we've waited for.
I reckon what you have with 1.8 will be all you'll ever get. |
RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:46:00 -
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They're so full of **** I can't listen to anything they have to say or support a single ******* thing they do.
**** them.
The guy from the Hamburger train.
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lionshead nebula
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
135
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:47:00 -
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The support is overwhelming.
It's simple dust needs an overlord and I personally believe in DNSBlack. VOTE DNSBLEACH!
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Cpl Foster USMC
Sith Lords Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:48:00 -
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some quotes from CCP:
". Do you think it was a mistake launching Dust on a platform that was already on its way out by the time Dust released?
JCG: Well, not when they started. [Laughs]"
"There was some really cool gameplay that came out of it."
"What happens to Dust now that Legion exists?
JCG: Dust is going strong. Dust is going really well. Dust is a product we're really proud of, and that's not about to change. Again, in six months or a year it's difficult to say today"
proof
Semper Fidelis to The Empire
My favorite sauce is Bacon Grease
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:50:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:I have a hard time believing Dust will *really* be supported moving forward. I mean just consider that most of the staff has been working on Legion, and the result of all that work is stunning. But look at 1.8's largest and most glaring glitch: you spawned in and your skills didn't apply. Certainly, just seeing the hp bars not full when spawning in would have been the most obvious sign that something was wrong--and would easily have been seen by a QA department--yet this bug somehow made it to launch with 1.8, and it's likely due to the smaller staff actually working on Dust. So will Dust conte to be developed? Unlikely, just based on the degree of polish that came with 1.8.
Microsoft still supports Windows 7, through they are working on something better in Windows 8. I swear, you all jump to conclusions higher and faster than my scout jumps a railing.
Be patient. Wait and see. Make a judgment when you have all the facts. Why worry over something when you don' t have all the info?
"Your dad was in a car crash!"
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:53:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:I have a hard time believing Dust will *really* be supported moving forward. I mean just consider that most of the staff has been working on Legion, and the result of all that work is stunning. But look at 1.8's largest and most glaring glitch: you spawned in and your skills didn't apply. Certainly, just seeing the hp bars not full when spawning in would have been the most obvious sign that something was wrong--and would easily have been seen by a QA department--yet this bug somehow made it to launch with 1.8, and it's likely due to the smaller staff actually working on Dust. So will Dust conte to be developed? Unlikely, just based on the degree of polish that came with 1.8. Windows still supports Windows 7, through they are working on something better in Windows 8. I swear, you all jump to conclusions higher and faster than my scout jumps a railing. I was unaware that now CCP is the size of and with the resources of Microsoft.
Maybe that's coming in the CCP Presents keynote tomorrow. "CCP now the size of Microsoft!"
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:54:00 -
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Just let me move my Merc to PL and i'll enjoy it for everything that DUST isn't.
That being said i'm a little heartbroken and DUST won't get another dime... I need to save that coin for a new PC now
Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
The Space Hippie
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Zene Ren
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:56:00 -
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SubZero DeZigns wrote:As the quote says below that Dust514 still has life. Quote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. CCP Rouge Executive Producer - DUST 514 / Project Legion Dev Blog Do you think different
i already know few projects on the maintenance mode support LOL
Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
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Ghural
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:44:00 -
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Um. Hate to burst your bubble. But you did you notice that the Dust514 keynote had nothing to do with Dust.
There were no announcements of upcoming features
There was no announcement of a road map
There wasn't even a "incoming fixes" announcement.
This whole "Dust will continue as a separate project" thing is a nice way of saying "please continue to give us money for a game we are in the process of abandoning". |
AToS SaGa III
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Would love another patch, would shop for it after rage dies down a bit.
Can you please biomass yourself? |
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inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:50:00 -
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oh please they cant fool us , we all know a large chunk of the dust team is going to be focusing on eve legion rather than dust while like 5 people still work on dust throwing out more bullshit |
SolusNothos
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:54:00 -
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SubZero DeZigns wrote:As the quote says below that Dust514 still has life. Quote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. CCP Rouge Executive Producer - DUST 514 / Project Legion Dev Blog Do you think different
I'd be inclined to believe them if they actually said anything, at all, about anything for Dust. |
Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:55:00 -
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SubZero DeZigns wrote:As the quote says below that Dust514 still has life. Quote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. CCP Rouge Executive Producer - DUST 514 / Project Legion Dev Blog Do you think different
well considering the way they treated our community at fanfest, no I don't believe a word of this....except the part where they say legion will be the experience they all dreamed of.... effing @$$holes....
this game makes me sad....
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Archer Yorcot
S.e.V.e.N.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:34:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Um. Hate to burst your bubble. But you did you notice that the Dust514 keynote had nothing to do with Dust.
There were no announcements of upcoming features
There was no announcement of a road map
There wasn't even a "incoming fixes" announcement.
This whole "Dust will continue as a separate project" thing is a nice way of saying "please continue to give us money for a game we are in the process of abandoning".
This. Exactly this. If CCP had tangible, short term plans to invest in Dust, they would have revealed them at the keynote. Or, given the massive backlash that's unfurling, they would have made a more concrete statement via press release.
[Legion] "its a least a year away, I believe." GÇô CCP Rouge
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-02-ccp-re-imagines-ps3-shooter-dust-514-for-pc-as-project-legion
Shanghai office only has about 60 devs on staff at any given time, and that's a very small team in relation to the scope they're aiming for with Legion (Triple A titles like Destiny, Watch Dogs ect.. have upwards of 300+ devs to bring their project to market). Shanghai is going to need all hands on deck to get Legion out the door.
There is no financial incentive for CCP to invest in new content for Dust, and the player base knows this.
Newbs and bitter vets are going to leave en mass because the same problems that plague Dust today (matchmaking, NPE, balance, and so forth) are guaranteed to still be F---ed for another year.
This forum signature is OP.
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