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Fiddlestaxp wrote:

For all intents and purposes, we have 100%. None of the non-DNS are ever online for more than 0.1 seconds, thus crippling their ISK generation and nullifying their ability to be used as a weapon for assault.

We were able to smooth most of the rift between RA/NF over within the first week of operating together. I must say that I thought they were going to attack us during that week, but we were able to come to a solution, and a quick talk with alliance leadership got us all on the same page.

The part that most people don't seem to realize, is that you can't forum-meta your way out of a situation like this. We are going to be stable for as long as we want to... With no outside impetus, equilibrium can exist indefinitely .

You can either wait to attack us, or just talk about it. Either way, we aren't going to hand you the isk faucet because you say mean things about us. We put a lot of effort into making the situation we have now, and if you aren't going to show that you deserve it, we aren't just going to hand it to you.

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Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4212	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:00:00 - [1] - Quote ...That mercs are waiting for CCP to "save" them from the blue donut?? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3774	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:02:00 - [2] - Quote If the blue donut is actually an incredible minority in the playerbase, is it actually a donut at all?
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1374	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:02:00 - [3] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: ...That mercs are waiting for CCP to "save" them from the blue donut?? Blue donut? I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3751	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:02:00 - [4] - Quote I sure hope not, waiting for CCP to do something is not a good excuse to not even try to PC... Things might change but your opponents will not get easier might as well start to practice now if you ever want to play in PC. Sir Hadah for CPM
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5987	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:03:00 - [5] - Quote Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4212	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:08:00 - [6] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4214	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:12:00 - [7] - Quote There are no pacts between lions and men Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 792	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:17:00 - [8] - Quote I'm sure there have been lots of discussions about how to fix the current stagnate state of PC. Kain Spero was fishing for solutions from the community which leads me to believe that CCP wasn't happy about it, but wanted the player-base to find their own solutions. The unstable fault line between NF and RA looked promising, but I was hoping for the gauntlet to be cast well before Fanfest. I'm sure we will see some implementation that will push for Corps to be of an adequate member count in order to hold so many districts and for that number to be balanced in such a way that discourages the ability of 80 players or so to adequately defend all of them. Changes to clone pack costs and changes to timers. The doughnut cannot succeed in it's quest for 100% nor can it thrive in a position that does not allow for growth or change. Entropy will reign within its ranks. Rebellion and war will follow. We can pickle that.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13002	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:22:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? Because other than OH and WTF they're being a bunch of whiny bitches. I know this is a view you've expressed in a few places, Michael - if you get a team together I'll personally fund a clone pack for you. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:24:00 - [10] - Quote People probably stopped giving a f*ck. Here, let me save you from the donut: Step 1 Cut a hole in a box Step 2 Put your junk in the box Step 3 Have someone open the box (like your boss) or Play dark souls 2. And reminisce about what it's like to have fun playing a videogame.

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4215	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:25:00 - [11] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: I'm sure there have been lots of discussions about how to fix the current stagnate state of PC. Kain Spero was fishing for solutions from the community which leads me to believe that CCP wasn't happy about it, but wanted the player-base to find their own solutions. The unstable fault line between NF and RA looked promising, but I was hoping for the gauntlet to be cast well before Fanfest. I'm sure we will see some implementation that will push for Corps to be of an adequate member count in order to hold so many districts and for that number to be balanced in such a way that discourages the ability of 80 players or so to adequately defend all of them. Changes to clone pack costs and changes to timers. The doughnut cannot succeed in it's quest for 100% nor can it thrive in a position that does not allow for growth or change. Entropy will reign within its ranks. Rebellion and war will follow. But they can thrive at the current 90 percent? That's still pretty much 100 percent. The only group who has said **** it, let's get to war are What The French. Everybody else is not coordinating or looking to fight the problem. Pretty sure, if the thread was about "Look how evil DNS is", I would have had more replies. But a honest question presented and no one is hardly talking. Is that a glaring problem within the Dust community? That protostomp discussions, weapon balance, and such is basically a farce because it shows that players don't have the fortitude to meet challenges head on? They assembled and created an empire, and the locals, instead of gathering arms to fight choose to cry. How come we are named mercenaries but acting like kindergarten kids? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4216	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:36:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? Because other than OH and WTF they're being a bunch of whiny bitches. I know this is a view you've expressed in a few places, Michael - if you get a team together I'll personally fund a clone pack for you. I don't know Arkena. I have the will, but honestly my faith in the majority of the community who aren't in the blue doughnut is lacking. Plus, I'm Michael Arck. Say if my name was Regynum or some famous guy, I could pull together corporations to follow me. But I'm just an unknown with opinions that the majority of the community doesn't like or think I'm just some ahole wanna be elitist, which I am not. I'm listening to this podcast (I know, I'm late) and I can't help but have a fire in me when listening to DNSBlack. And I can't even be mad at him after hearing him. He did what the community should be doing now. I really believe the community is expecting CCP to step in (lol) and change PC. To me, that's a loss. I don't want them stepping in to unravel DNS's grip on MH. I want the community to do that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 811	Posted - 2014.05.02 06:45:00 - [13] - Quote For all intents and purposes, we have 100%. None of the non-DNS are ever online for more than 0.1 seconds, thus crippling their ISK generation and nullifying their ability to be used as a weapon for assault. We were able to smooth most of the rift between RA/NF over within the first week of operating together. I must say that I thought they were going to attack us during that week, but we were able to come to a solution, and a quick talk with alliance leadership got us all on the same page. The part that most people don't seem to realize, is that you can't forum-meta your way out of a situation like this. We are going to be stable for as long as we want to... With no outside impetus, equilibrium can exist indefinitely . You can either wait to attack us, or just talk about it. Either way, we aren't going to hand you the isk faucet because you say mean things about us. We put a lot of effort into making the situation we have now, and if you aren't going to show that you deserve it, we aren't just going to hand it to you.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3780	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:00:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? The community is mostly horrible and the game's current iteration rewards elite players instead of zerging with countless droves of bad ones (aka eve online). I imagine in time, and with a more powerful machine to play this game on, it will start to swing toward to the latter.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 792	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:24:00 - [15] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: For all intents and purposes, we have 100%. None of the non-DNS are ever online for more than 0.1 seconds, thus crippling their ISK generation and nullifying their ability to be used as a weapon for assault. We were able to smooth most of the rift between RA/NF over within the first week of operating together. I must say that I thought they were going to attack us during that week, but we were able to come to a solution, and a quick talk with alliance leadership got us all on the same page. The part that most people don't seem to realize, is that you can't forum-meta your way out of a situation like this. We are going to be stable for as long as we want to... With no outside impetus, equilibrium can exist indefinitely . You can either wait to attack us, or just talk about it. Either way, we aren't going to hand you the isk faucet because you say mean things about us. We put a lot of effort into making the situation we have now, and if you aren't going to show that you deserve it, we aren't just going to hand it to you. 60% of the time it works every time. 100% We can pickle that.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4228	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:30:00 - [16] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? The community is mostly horrible and the game's current iteration rewards elite players instead of zerging with countless droves of bad ones (aka eve online). I imagine in time, and with a more powerful machine to play this game on, it will start to swing toward to the latter. That's assuming there are no other good players outside of DNS. I understand what you're saying but I see it like this, why not make some kind of stand instead of just complaining on forums? That's what What The French did. How come the rest cannot? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3782	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:45:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Blue doughnut will eventually implode on itself, just like last time. So why are the community (outside of the blue doughnut) is waiting for them to implode? How come the community cannot achieve what they have achieved? The community is mostly horrible and the game's current iteration rewards elite players instead of zerging with countless droves of bad ones (aka eve online). I imagine in time, and with a more powerful machine to play this game on, it will start to swing toward to the latter. That's assuming there are no other good players outside of DNS. I understand what you're saying but I see it like this, why not make some kind of stand instead of just complaining on forums? That's what What The French did. How come the rest cannot? Were I in their position, I might not either. Truthfully, fighting with nothing but clone packs is a pain in the ass and its horrendously one sided. Even if you take land, it will be locked down indefinitely from attacks. To break the strangle hold it requires mass attacks on a grand scale, which requires grand cooperation.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4228	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:48:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Were I in their position, I might not either. Truthfully, fighting with nothing but clone packs is a pain in the ass and its horrendously one sided. Even if you take land, it will be locked down indefinitely from attacks. So basically, players should wait until CCP "saves" them? Cause even if the clone packs are fixed, it still doesn't matter. I've watched LKC put a decent fight against AE. It can be done. It's not about taking land, as WTF has shown by example. It's about making a stand. If people have time to gripe and complain, then that's more than enough reason to fight back. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Jason Pearson State Terrestrial Mercenaries 4289	Posted - 2014.05.02 09:14:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Plus, I'm Michael Arck. YOU ARE A 4Ker, never forget that. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician Vote me for CPM1!
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4232	Posted - 2014.05.02 09:22:00 - [20] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Plus, I'm Michael Arck. YOU ARE A 4Ker, never forget that. What are you saying? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?



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