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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:22:00 -
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So took the time to try to look for a thread about when the fighter jets, will come out or if they even will. but i want to ask CCP when will we be geting them? can we have some kind of hint? these drop ships are incredibly strong to the point that they can out run Swarm Launchers. now i have a fit with PRO swarms {that can shoot a SET of 6, 3 times}.and 3 complex dmg mods and they can ether with stand them or they can just out run them fly away get their AMR and SHLD with n seconds with so much ease. i guess what im trying to say is when can we have a good counter to drops ships? or ed least level the playing field, so that we dont get slaughtered on the field and can ed least defend our self better. if the drop ships are going to be that fast can we ed-least get some figher jets to take them out or provide better air support.
i hope this makes a little bit of seance im just kinda fed up with getting jumped with drop ships all the time. and not having a good counter to them. plz give me some feed back and let me know what you think. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:25:00 -
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To be fair, dropships are their own best counter. Also, swarms damage application is all ****** up, particularly against the Incubus.
Forge guns are still very strong against dropships, and any dedicated forge gunners who feel dropships are OP should probably go ahead and git gud.
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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:34:00 -
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so im guessing the only way to kind of counter a drop ship is another drop ship or a forge gun? and just for my understanding the swarms are messed up right now correct? |
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:37:00 -
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Taurus Stardust wrote:so im guessing the only way to kind of counter a drop ship is another drop ship or a forge gun? and just for my understanding the swarms are messed up right now correct?
A Sica with a Railgun and a damage mod can mess up a dropship too, doesn't cost much ISK at all, and has 0 SP requirement. I think it's a stupid part of the game, but it's a part of the game. Forge guns are currently the main AV simply because swarms aren't properly applying their damage in some cases, though to be fair, a fire and forget weapon will probably never be as powerful as a gun that requires active aiming.
Dropships, yes, are their own best counter, at least coming from an Incubus pilot who's favorite prey is other dropships.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:39:00 -
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WTF would you counter a jet with?
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Riptalis
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:42:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with?
Another jet? |
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:42:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with?
Considering on these maps you'd go redline to redline in about 2 seconds haha. Jets have no place in DUST: actual, I'm afraid. In DUST: theoretical, they do still have a place, but that's about it.
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Taurus Stardust
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with? Considering on these maps you'd go redline to redline in about 2 seconds haha. Jets have no place in DUST: actual, I'm afraid. In DUST: theoretical, they do still have a place, but that's about it.
i think jets would work on the newer maps no so much the old ones though. and if they tweek the swarms again that would be cool for me lol as a logi i dont have extra points to spend on a heavy suit and or forge guns lol. love the feed back Dust Fiend appreciate it man |
Sollemnis Aelinos
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with? Considering on these maps you'd go redline to redline in about 2 seconds haha. Jets have no place in DUST: actual, I'm afraid. In DUST: theoretical, they do still have a place, but that's about it.
actually the redline gets expanded for aircrafts such as dropships. though since they hv a hover mode, im curious how that will work out
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:52:00 -
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Taurus Stardust wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with? Considering on these maps you'd go redline to redline in about 2 seconds haha. Jets have no place in DUST: actual, I'm afraid. In DUST: theoretical, they do still have a place, but that's about it. i think jets would work on the newer maps no so much the old ones though. and if they tweek the swarms again that would be cool for me lol as a logi i dont have extra points to spend on a heavy suit and or forge guns lol. love the feed back Dust Fiend appreciate it man
Not a problem, any time. I really hope swarms get addressed soon, they're clearly messed up and in obvious need of fixing. While I would never want them to be quite as strong as forge guns, I do want them to be somewhat viable in what they were made for: killing vehicles.
CCP has a LOT of work left to go on vehicle vs AV balance though, so hopefully it continues to be hammered out and addressed.
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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:53:00 -
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Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:WTF would you counter a jet with? Considering on these maps you'd go redline to redline in about 2 seconds haha. Jets have no place in DUST: actual, I'm afraid. In DUST: theoretical, they do still have a place, but that's about it. actually the redline gets expanded for aircrafts such as dropships. though since they hv a hover mode, im curious how that will work out
oh yea thats right now that you mention it lol witch is why they have so much room to out run the launchers lol |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:54:00 -
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what happens when the fighters start taking you out instead of the dropships?
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Sir Snugglz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:56:00 -
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Swarms are powerful against derpships. A proto swarm with damage mods will knock out a derpship in 3-4 volleys. Just got to learn when to shoot and when not to waste them volleys.
All I can say that those that complain about swarms dont know how to use them and want them turned into easy mode like everything else.
If that's the case I want derpships to fly themselves using autopilot so I can focus on just shooting. <= easy mode
There's a reason why not many people fly derpships. It requires skill. same goes for the forge gun and swarms.
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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:01:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:what happens when the fighters start taking you out instead of the dropships?
no bro lol when they come out with fighters im going to be in them for the soul purpose of taking out drop ships
by that time the swarms should be fixed so they can ed least do something to the drops ships and potentially hurt / kill fighters witch i would be ok with |
Taurus Stardust
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:03:00 -
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also i want dog fights lol |
Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:03:00 -
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Sir Snugglz wrote:Swarms are powerful against derpships. A proto swarm with damage mods will knock out a derpship in 3-4 volleys. Just got to learn when to shoot and when not to waste them volleys.
All I can say that those that complain about swarms dont know how to use them and want them turned into easy mode like everything else.
If that's the case I want derpships to fly themselves using autopilot so I can focus on just shooting. <= easy mode
There's a reason why not many people fly derpships. It requires skill. same goes for the forge gun and swarms.
Forge Guns & SLs require so much less skill than piloting a ADS it's not even funny but then again I'm just an infantry scrub.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:05:00 -
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trust me i know how to use them its not that hard but also thats why im posting about it i can send out all of the volleys with ease but at the same time these drop ships now a days can just out run the swarms. after being taped by the 1st or 2nd set |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:06:00 -
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Taurus Stardust wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:what happens when the fighters start taking you out instead of the dropships? no bro lol when they come out with fighters im going to be in them for the soul purpose of taking out drop ships by that time the swarms should be fixed so they can ed least do something to the drops ships and potentially hurt / kill fighters witch i would be ok with
the dropship pilots will just graduate to fighters and you'll have the same situation as now which is tolerable
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Sollemnis Aelinos
0uter.Heaven Academy
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:07:00 -
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Taurus Stardust wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:what happens when the fighters start taking you out instead of the dropships? no bro lol when they come out with fighters im going to be in them for the soul purpose of taking out drop ships by that time the swarms should be fixed so they can ed least do something to the drops ships and potentially hurt / kill fighters witch i would be ok with
yea one or two volleys should be enough to take one out. one shot with forge guns. The jets are why im playing dust. once those are released, i probably will retire from nova knifing. i just hope is not as crappy as battlefield 3. If the maneuverability is like ace combat and not sluggish like bf3, ill be very happy
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Taurus Stardust
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:10:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:Taurus Stardust wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:what happens when the fighters start taking you out instead of the dropships? no bro lol when they come out with fighters im going to be in them for the soul purpose of taking out drop ships by that time the swarms should be fixed so they can ed least do something to the drops ships and potentially hurt / kill fighters witch i would be ok with the dropship pilots will just graduate to fighters and you'll have the same situation as now which is tolerable
as i said i would not care fighter to fighter. just want the swarms to be fixed or give me a jet is all lol. |
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:15:00 -
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it will bring a whole new meaning to kamikazee
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Sollemnis Aelinos
0uter.Heaven Academy
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Posted - 2014.05.02 05:25:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:it will bring a whole new meaning to kamikazee
jets with REs
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