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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:37:00 -
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"My proto swarm should be able to kill a militia tank"
I hear this a lot. Most people don't really think about the time when tanks were actually downright unkillable.
this time was known as chromosome.
Prototype tanks were a thing in this time, and could reach rediculous amounts of hp with passive resistance.
Sagaris-9k shield 2k armor. 20% passive shield resistance and a heavy shield booster. scattered neutron blaster.
Cost-3-5 million isk.
Yeah, um......... it took whole squads of nanohive fed proto packed av grenades, forges, and swarms to kill this tank.
When these get added back into the game along with enforcers, logi lavs, logi dropships, and scout lavs CCP will be able to fully balance vehicle according to tier.
When that day comes, and it will, you will wish that basic tanks were all you had to worry about.
sebastian the huds (insert any weapon) whoever i want
Weapon operation 5 in most weapons
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
Final Resolution.
3159
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:40:00 -
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This is entirely untrue.
They were very solo-able; I watched a proto-forge squaddy butcher a Surya once.
The only ones that were unkillable were the ones that were getting remote-repped, and that was only because people were too dumb to go for the medic.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3536
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:45:00 -
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We dont even have adv/proto tanks let alone the other vehicles for min/amarr so yea how can we balance
Also tho we have less skills, less vehicles, less modules, less turrets, less variety and playstyles in general so vehicles are in a ****** place after 2 vehicle overhauls
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
108
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:48:00 -
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Surya footage from Pyrex
sebastian the huds (insert any weapon) whoever i want
Weapon operation 5 in most weapons
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BIind Shot
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
230
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:59:00 -
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You admit it's unbalanced yet you don't want it fixed. At least till you have another set of crutches.
and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
Final Resolution.
3161
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:07:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
These are uncoordinated militia swarms.
Which is another way of saying 'entirely worthless'.
My 1.6 Madrugar could deal with three uncoordinated morons like these.
(I am assuming this is the video with Psychotic Shooter?
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1255
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:13:00 -
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vehicles can't be balanced before we get the racial parity for vehicles and AV
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Jason Pearson
State Terrestrial Mercenaries
4273
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:15:00 -
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GIVE ME BACK MY SHIELD TRANSPORTERS CCP
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King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
Vote me for CPM1!
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Mr m4gic
XSKvLLX
51
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:50:00 -
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I think its more fun tanks being a challenge, would be poo if everything just went pop in an instant, leave them how they are I say and make the dropships more powerful so tht we can actually have some descent air support,
do you ever see a player run and hide when they see a dropship?? no infact the dropship seems to be doing more of the running away which makes no sense,
by making them more powerful they will give ur team some suppression from the slaughter and make the game more fun for everyone.
sod the tanks and fix the dropships.
Have you seen my baseball??
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3536
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Posted - 2014.05.01 14:04:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:GIVE ME BACK MY SHIELD TRANSPORTERS CCP
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No
They are useful mods
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1360
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Posted - 2014.05.01 14:07:00 -
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Chromo tanks were solo-able, I use to run proto forge and pop them in chromo all the time.
Thumb Green: "Sorry we can't all magically kill vehicles like you o' great one."
I am pretty great
Delt for CPM1
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2050
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:38:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
He's not driving it.
I'd love to see how he drives a tank.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
161
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:14:00 -
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Tanks balance pretty well when you flip them over.
"I'm a turtle!"
"Tuuuuuuuuurrrrttttllllle..." |
Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
406
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:22:00 -
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Feh I soloed Saggies and Suries all the time with my Assault Forge back then ......they were tough very tough..... but do able . Course Tanks were slower back then and my forge fired faster ......
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
108
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:32:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Feh I soloed Saggies and Suries all the time with my Assault Forge back then ......they were tough very tough..... but do able . Course Tanks were slower back then and my forge fired faster ......
Then again, the forge was at full power. Remember av got nerfed.
sebastian the huds (insert any weapon) whoever i want
Weapon operation 5 in most weapons
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1732
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:56:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:snip
When these get added back into the game along with enforcers, logi lavs, logi dropships, and scout lavs CCP will be able to fully balance vehicle according to tier.
When that day comes, and it will, you will wish that basic tanks were all you had to worry about.
CCP removed content in an effort to get the basics fixed first. Mathematically the correct thing to do. Unfortunately because they flipped the values of Infamtry-AV and Turrets, then widening the gap they created a bias that can't be fixed. From that position they could just add the other content back in since they can't even get the fundamental right so having a bigger FUBAR hardly matters. Personally I think they need to either address the DPS gap issue or use other limitation factors to get things under control again.
Vehicle Issues in Dust 514 has been very effectively painted into a corner. If they hadn't been making improvements on the general Infantry side I would be extremely pissed right now.
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:58:00 -
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shouldnt jets with their lockon missiles be the real tankers killers, kind of like they are in BF? |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1009
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:11:00 -
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Mr m4gic wrote:I think its more fun tanks being a challenge, would be poo if everything just went pop in an instant, leave them how they are I say and make the dropships more powerful so tht we can actually have some descent air support,
do you ever see a player run and hide when they see a dropship?? no infact the dropship seems to be doing more of the running away which makes no sense,
by making them more powerful they will give ur team some suppression from the slaughter and make the game more fun for everyone.
sod the tanks and fix the dropships.
You want to buff dropships?!? ADS is the most dominant battlefield role at present. A good pilot can dominate infantry and ground vehicles even more than a capable tanker can. Maybe you just haven't seen decent pilots in action. |
Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
784
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:27:00 -
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Then remove them altogether until they can be balanced.
Your argument is "proto swarms shouldnt kill militia tanks because we don't have proto tanks"
Seriously? Get out of here with that nonsense.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
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TURTLE POWER!!!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
391
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:34:00 -
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I look forward to the day when I actually make someone lose some real isk again by killing their tank. It'll be nice to actually have an impact on their wallets once more. 
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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