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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:15:00 -
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Which one to pick?
He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ).
I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile.
What to do?
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
426
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:17:00 -
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Well could you explain us his playstyle?
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad.
533
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:20:00 -
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Well if scouts out id say heavy, he's going to have to pick his engagements though! Good to know how he wants to play before you pick, like delta said.
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LT apparition
Molon Labe.
88
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:21:00 -
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Tell Him To Use a Cannon, 13itchs LOVE Cannons.
We Fight, We Kill, You Die, The End.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1977
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:22:00 -
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I would spec back into gallogi (even if the scan bonus is useless) or minlogi and embrace the logi way.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Final Resolution.
2601
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:29:00 -
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Any Caldari suit for long range engagements and hit and run tactics. Very fast game play
A gal scout or heavy - for extreme cqc engagements, very deadly gameplay and damage mitigation is a priority specially for the heavy.
A amarr medium or heavy - for very powerful SCR play or a versatile heavy suit.
A minmatar medium or heavy - for a fast suit with very adaptable engagements.
Weapons:
CR -easy mode can kill anything with its messed up damage profile and extreme dps. Might get nerfed in like 6 months.
Rail rifle - very powerful at any range, hip fire only in short range and you can dominate with this weapon in any engagement. Might get needed in like 1 year.
Scrambler rifle- only use this with amarr medium suits unless heavily specced into.
Assault rifle- avoid this weapon.
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
472
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:31:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do?
Caldari Logistics. It didn't get nerfed to hard and it got a huge buff in it's CPU/PG; leading to more CPU/PG for TANK. It's like a heavy with equipment slots.
Here is a quick fit I threw together: LINK
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3106
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:32:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Well could you explain us his playstyle?
He's been playing GalLogi for a while; says he like staying at range (likes RR).
On the flip side he seems to like NKs.
Heavy's probably out, and logis are not so good for soloing right now (in my experience). I'd have suggested an Assault but they're a bit pointless right now too.
Anyway - slow-moving, long ranged. I'm half-tempted to say 'CalSent+RR', tbh.
Oh - also he's got enough SP to proto it off the bat, so we're looking at max skills so not having a maxed role bonus isn't a worry here (if it ever was).
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:34:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming
Or you could, y'know, make a suggestion based on the playstyle he's looking for. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:37:00 -
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Slow moving and long ranged? Might I suggest Amarr Assault or Commando?
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3106
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:41:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do? Caldari Logistics. It didn't get nerfed to hard and it got a huge buff in it's CPU/PG; leading to more CPU/PG for TANK. It's like a heavy with equipment slots. Here is a quick fit I threw together: LINK
WTH 620 CPU O.O
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad.
533
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:42:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Well could you explain us his playstyle? He's been playing GalLogi for a while; says he like staying at range (likes RR). On the flip side he seems to like NKs. Heavy's probably out, and logis are not so good for soloing right now (in my experience). I'd have suggested an Assault but they're a bit pointless right now too. Anyway - slow-moving, long ranged. I'm half-tempted to say 'CalSent+RR', tbh. Oh - also he's got enough SP to proto it off the bat, so we're looking at max skills so not having a maxed role bonus isn't a worry here (if it ever was).
Well for one if he's got enough sp to proto right of the bat your going to want to put that sp into core skill instead. So you can fit ANY suit well and give it a better tank and scans! No point if wearing expensive suits if you have low survivability.
As far as the suit, a standard calsent seems like a good plan for a hit and run(ish) but for a slow and mean tank your going to wan to go galente.
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
435
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:44:00 -
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amarr or minmatar assault.
Primus sucks.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3106
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:46:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming
Or you could, y'know, make a suggestion based on the playstyle he's looking for.
Yes. I just said 'he's been playing GalLogi'.
This is another way of saying 'don't recommend scouts because they're OP because they're not his typical playstyle and they're gonna get nerfed'.
Please find a useful way of contributing, kthxbai.
For the record, he's looking for a reliable suit. I'm trying to find one that isn't gonna get hit with the hammer, or I'd be saying GalScout right off the bat.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3106
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:49:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Well could you explain us his playstyle? He's been playing GalLogi for a while; says he like staying at range (likes RR). On the flip side he seems to like NKs. Heavy's probably out, and logis are not so good for soloing right now (in my experience). I'd have suggested an Assault but they're a bit pointless right now too. Anyway - slow-moving, long ranged. I'm half-tempted to say 'CalSent+RR', tbh. Oh - also he's got enough SP to proto it off the bat, so we're looking at max skills so not having a maxed role bonus isn't a worry here (if it ever was). Well for one if he's got enough sp to proto right of the bat your going to want to put that sp into core skill instead. So you can fit ANY suit well and give it a better tank and scans! No point if wearing expensive suits if you have low survivability. As far as the suit, a standard calsent seems like a good plan for a hit and run(ish) but for a slow and mean tank your going to wan to go galente.
Cores are pretty solid; 5/5/5, though his armour/shields need some work.
We're looking to avoid future proto grind, not start spamming proto right off the bat :)
I personally am a big fan of STD CalSent, and I've suggested taking the suit that far (if perhaps no further).
Thanks for all the contributions so far guys!!
I'm really liking Haerr's CalLogi fitting, incidentally, and I'll definitely be running that one by him.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10662
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:51:00 -
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Minmatar assault (with CR) or Amarr assault (with SCR): only assaults with good bonuses. Minmatar assault's speed would make knives kind of viable. Since he likes RRs, I would also suggest Caldari commandos; when maxed out, the skill bonus turns a standard RR into a proto RR.
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Jason Pearson
State Terrestrial Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:03:00 -
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CALDARI SENTINEL
I don't care if he likes it, make him play it.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3107
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:10:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:CALDARI SENTINEL
I don't care if he likes it, make him play it.
Trust me, I will
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2481
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:26:00 -
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Assault suit. It is decent and wont be nerfed.
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
"I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4345
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:28:00 -
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Tell him to pick a suit he inks is cool.
Boom done, he now has a suit he's happy with, tell him how to use it proper,y and he'll be right as rain...I did this for my brother and he's got scout AK.0
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The premier training corp for commandos.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
320
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:41:00 -
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Gal assault is good times, I've been running it for ages.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1346
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:06:00 -
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Caldari commando
Its very overlooked.
Thumb Green: "Sorry we can't all magically kill vehicles like you o' great one."
I am pretty great
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
179
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:44:00 -
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Wait till after fan-fest see what is getting nerfed/buffed next. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:04:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do?
How much SP? If the answer is: below 15Mio, I'd advise not to play until he has ;)
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
513
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Posted - 2014.05.01 14:42:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do? How much SP? If the answer is: below 15Mio, I'd advise not to play until he has ;)
This is the single best advise I have ever seen anyone give to newberries! I wish I could like your post multiple times.
Mr. J. Pearson for CPM!
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
164
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:31:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Hansei Kaizen wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do? How much SP? If the answer is: below 15Mio, I'd advise not to play until he has ;) This is the single best advise I have ever seen anyone give to newberries! I wish I could like your post multiple times.
Just because of your signature I assume this is sarcasm ;) Problem is this means a year of not playing, till you can begin to play. lol, what a game :D
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:40:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Haerr wrote:Hansei Kaizen wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Which one to pick? He plays solo usually, has reasonable cores (not too focused on armour or shields) and has previously played GalLogi (you know, when it was OP ). I don't really want to suggest scouts, because there's a large possibility a nerf is incoming, but logis and assaults aren't so good right now for a solo player. I similarly don't want to suggest heavies, because although I've seen some pretty effective solo heavy builds (Cal foremost among them) they're very limiting and not too versatile. What to do? How much SP? If the answer is: below 15Mio, I'd advise not to play until he has ;) This is the single best advise I have ever seen anyone give to newberries! I wish I could like your post multiple times. Just because of your signature I assume this is sarcasm ;) Problem is this means a year of not playing, till you can begin to play. lol, what a game :D
As a person who knows Haerr, I am reasonably certain this is a serious post.
NEEDZ MOAR FULL RESPEC (y'happy, Dildo?)
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
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