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Asha Starwind 844	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:27:00 - [1] - Quote Operates by diverting suit resources allocated to shield recharge rate towards maintaining higher shield capacities. - Leverages suit shield regen for higher hp buffer. - If implemented would further promote the use of rechargers and energizers STD/ADV/PRO HP: 60/90/120 Shield recharge rate penalty: 5/10/15% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 50hp/s: 50hp/s (1 - 4[.15]) = 20hp/s CPU: ~ 18/36/54 PG: ~ 6/9/12 Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 698	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:44:00 - [2] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Operates by diverting suit resources allocated to shield recharge rate towards maintaining higher shield capacities. - Leverages suit shield regen for higher hp buffer. - If implemented would further promote the use of rechargers and energizers STD/ADV/PRO HP: 60/90/120 Shield recharge rate penalty: 5/10/15% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 50hp/s: 50hp/s (1 - 4[.15]) = 20hp/s CPU: ~ 18/36/54 PG: ~ 6/9/12 the recharge penalty seems a bit light but i like the concept It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 234	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:46:00 - [3] - Quote So it's like a heartier shield extender, with a differing penalty?- But yes, the drawback seems light.
Asha Starwind 845	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:55:00 - [4] - Quote What do you guys have in mind? They I envision it, when stacking the extenders the penalty does become quite substantial. A Cal Assault throwing 4 of these on would be looking at a 60% reduction in recharge rate, their 30hp/s would be reduced to 12hp/s. A heavy with the same number fares even worse by having their recharge rate reduced to 8hp/s. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2226	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:00:00 - [5] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: What do you guys have in mind? They I envision it, when stacking the extenders the penalty does become quite substantial. A Cal Assault throwing 4 of these on would be looking at a 60% reduction in recharge rate, their 30hp/s would be reduced to 12hp/s. A heavy with the same number fares even worse by having their recharge rate reduced to 8hp/s. But if they balance out the mods appropriately they can have a big buffer with fast regen that almost needs a flux or laser weapon to destroy. Which is surprisingly OK according to me.Shields seem rather weak, and lasers are feeling kinda specialized for fighting a type of tank that few people use. Shape without form, shade without colour, Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Final Resolution. 2601	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:52:00 - [6] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Operates by diverting suit resources allocated to shield recharge rate towards maintaining higher shield capacities. - Leverages suit shield regen for higher hp buffer. - If implemented would further promote the use of rechargers and energizers STD/ADV/PRO HP: 60/90/120 Shield recharge rate penalty: 5/10/15% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 50hp/s: 50hp/s (1 - 4[.15]) = 20hp/s CPU: ~ 18/36/54 PG: ~ 6/9/12 Penalty should be -100%, you get almost the same HP as armor but not speed penalty? Nope -100% is fine. For the Federation!
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 358	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:20:00 - [7] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Operates by diverting suit resources allocated to shield recharge rate towards maintaining higher shield capacities. - Leverages suit shield regen for higher hp buffer. - If implemented would further promote the use of rechargers and energizers STD/ADV/PRO HP: 60/90/120 Shield recharge rate penalty: 5/10/15% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 50hp/s: 50hp/s (1 - 4[.15]) = 20hp/s CPU: ~ 18/36/54 PG: ~ 6/9/12 Penalty should be -100%, you get almost the same HP as armor but not speed penalty? Nope -100% is fine. Penalty should be two pronged, recharge rate penalty coupled with profile penalty. Bigger shield field, more easily tracked. If you want a higher recharge penalty then we'll talk about reducing recharge delays. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Asha Starwind 845	Posted - 2014.04.29 11:12:00 - [8] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: Penalty should be two pronged, recharge rate penalty coupled with profile penalty. Bigger shield field, more easily tracked. If you want a higher recharge penalty then we'll talk about reducing recharge delays. Thought the same thing but I'd rather keep it simple. BL4CKST4R wrote: Penalty should be -100%, you get almost the same HP as armor but not speed penalty? Nope -100% is fine. If the speed penalty on armor plates get increased to 100% sure. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 942	Posted - 2014.04.29 13:26:00 - [9] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Denn Maell wrote: Penalty should be two pronged, recharge rate penalty coupled with profile penalty. Bigger shield field, more easily tracked. If you want a higher recharge penalty then we'll talk about reducing recharge delays. Thought the same thing but I'd rather keep it simple. BL4CKST4R wrote: Penalty should be -100%, you get almost the same HP as armor but not speed penalty? Nope -100% is fine. If the speed penalty on armor plates get increased to 100%, sure. Only fair if you expect one of these to reduce shield regen to 0hp/s, while you still have your high slots available for damage mods or shield extenders. Your comparison is not fair at this point as armor already has the drawback of NO passive repair + a speed penalty. That's the reason why shield offer less hp. If you create extenders with nearly the same HP the 0 recharge argument is valid. Because you get nearly the same HP without the second penalty. This leads to shields providing basically close to the same HP PLUS regen PLUS no movement (or other) penalty. This would make shields superior to armor... BTW your shield tanked suit would have his low slots available as well to either fit plates, reppers or reactive plates... Although I think your altered penalties could work...
Asha Starwind 846	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:09:00 - [10] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Penalty should be -100%, you get almost the same HP as armor but not speed penalty? Nope -100% is fine. If the speed penalty on armor plates get increased to 100%, sure. Only fair if you expect one of these to reduce shield regen to 0hp/s, while you still have your high slots available for damage mods or shield extenders. Your comparison is not fair at this point as armor already has the drawback of NO passive repair + a speed penalty. That's the reason why shield offer less hp. If you create extenders with nearly the same HP the 0 recharge argument is valid. Because you get nearly the same HP without the second penalty. This leads to shields providing basically close to the same HP PLUS regen PLUS no movement (or other) penalty. This would make shields superior to armor... BTW your shield tanked suit would have his low slots available as well to either fit plates, reppers or reactive plates... Although I think your altered penalties could work... I believe the comparison is fair since shields are 1st line defense, cannot repaired from externals sources at all, have recharge delays, and the recharge can be interrupted by very minor damage. These negative aspects are further amplified at lower regen values. Also it would be more accurate to say that armor has lower regen than shields considering that gallente suits receive passive armor reps. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms

The-Errorist 658	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:42:00 - [11] - Quote I like it, the only problem with it is that it doesn't have the shield recharge delay penalty like shield extenders do; the shield recharge delay penalty should be 7/10/13%. This way it would have enough downsides.
The-Errorist 658	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:20:00 - [12] - Quote Here are some related threads that I like: [Request] Raise enhanced shied extender to 44 HP [Request] New Infantry Shield Extender Variants (Locked)
The-Errorist 674	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:07:00 - [13] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: I like it, the only problem with it is that it doesn't have the shield recharge delay penalty like shield extenders do; the shield recharge delay penalty should be 7/10/13%. This way it would have enough downsides. No one disagrees?
ALT2 acc 249	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:22:00 - [14] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Operates by diverting suit resources allocated to shield recharge rate towards maintaining higher shield capacities. - Leverages suit shield regen for higher hp buffer. - If implemented would further promote the use of rechargers and energizers STD/ADV/PRO ~~HP: 60/90/120~~ HP:66/88/110 Shield recharge rate penalty: 5/10/15% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 50hp/s: 50hp/s (1 - 4[.15]) = 20hp/s Shield recharge rate penalty: 20/30/40% - e.g. 4x Comp ASE with shield recharge@ 30hp/s: 30hp/s .60^4 = 3.8hp/s* Shield depleted recharge delay penalty: 7/9/11% CPU: ~ 18/36/54 PG: ~ 6/9/12 Examples(max skills) #1 Assault Ck.0 3x Comp SE 1x Comp Recharger Shields: 2101.25 + 1101.13 = 480hp Shield Regen: 301.483 = 44.5hp/s #2 Assault Ck.0 3x Comp Aegis SE 1x Comp Recharger Shields: 2101.25 + 1101.13 = 626hp Shield Regen: 30(.6^3)1.483 = 9.61hp/s #3 Assault Gk.0 1 x Comp Arm Rep 3 x Comp AP Armor: 2101.25+1351.1 = 708hp Armor regen: 2 + (6.25hp/s2) = 8.25hp/s Thats terribad Put the penalty waaay down Armor becomes more overpowered and shields get another useless mod Trolling proficiency 5


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