DUST Search - What is Considered a "Hybrid

killian178 wrote:

I sir, respectfully disagree.

I'm not a freaking uber vet 40+ mill sp (humble 22+) and I do pretty darn good. (Depending on the map, opponent, game type, etc). open beta began, I've gone against the grain, spreading my sp into a wider range of skills, rather than go proto first and then branch out. That trend became the "go to" way of playing, but not necessarily the way it was intended to be played IMHO.

Enter the "Galle-mander"

The commando is the first suit to complement my specific playstyle. Having only this suit at lvl 4, every light weapon at three, few at 5, cores maxed; it can be an absolute monster. I need more fittings space and file folders (talking to you guys CCP) because I have at least 12 commando fits alone. As few tinker fits of mlt, and side project amarr scout (lol) I can counter anything and everything almost. I'm not the greatest player, but then again, just found my niche.

The point I'm makin is simply this, the commando has a role, specific in design and function, and I think it's doing its job. The GaI is superior IMO because of the nature of being a support fighter, armor is the better option for me, never proffered shields, even when they where OP as hell. Having two light weapons, yes plz; equipment, oh yea!; no grenades is a bummer. But at least rich now, grenades kinda suck. I remember when a single AV nade used to takeout LAVs (pre murder taxi) and 3 for most Havs.It's lows are good for speed mods, or brick tank that sucker, hacker modded mofo? Damon straight!
Its the most versatility crammed into one suit, with minor drawbacks.

Just my 4 cents

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Exionous True Pros Forever 138	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:36:00 - [1] - Quote I'm going into Gallente Commando... but the only weapon I can think that falls under a "hybrid" weapon is the assault rifle and combat rifle. Is this seriously the only two weapons affected by the suit's bonus? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156825&find=unread Sorry, what was that tankers?
Spike Slania Horizons' Edge 51	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:41:00 - [2] - Quote Correction, Combat Rifle is a Projectile Weapon. Your skill bonus effects Assault Rifles, Plasma Cannons, and Shotguns. I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 64	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:41:00 - [3] - Quote According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon)
Exionous True Pros Forever 138	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:43:00 - [4] - Quote Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156825&find=unread Sorry, what was that tankers?
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5245	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:43:00 - [5] - Quote Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) ^^^^ Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Cyrus Grevare WarRavens Final Resolution. 187	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:56:00 - [6] - Quote Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) This is true, but from someone that spec'ed to lvl 5 Gal commando I'd say don't go that far in Don't get me wrong it's a fun suit, but not competitive in any way. By the look of the weapons it gets a bonus to, it seems the primary role intended for he suit is CQC, but as it is currently stands any heavy with a HMG will DESTROY you, it's almost impossible to get close up fast enough to use a shotgun without being ripped to shreds and the suit has NO EWAR or slots to help it on it. The other commandos have range in their weapons bonus, they can work the role of suppression specialist really good, not the Gallente variant unfortunately, the base AR is not bad, but IS outclassed by all other rifles, the AR variants well, just ugh... Plasma Cannon, Ion pistol... Just don't skill all the way unless you got SP to burn, this is of course my humble opinion. Regards www.protofits.com - a fitting tool project
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 412	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:58:00 - [7] - Quote Exionous wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. AR + Shotgun is the most effective. Medium Range and CQC range. You can handle Scouts with the Shotgun and Assaults wit the Medium Range. I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
Cyrus Grevare WarRavens Final Resolution. 187	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:02:00 - [8] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Exionous wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. AR + Shotgun is the most effective. Medium Range and CQC range. You can handle Scouts with the Shotgun and Assaults wit the Medium Range. AR + Shotgun IS the most effective I've found, but scouts eat Gal Commandos for breakfast, they're slow, blind as a bat and not as tanked as a TRUE heavy. I do admit it is fun to blow a careless scout with a shotgun blast, but any truly skilled scout won't have troubles dealing with you. www.protofits.com - a Dust 514 fitting tool
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4935	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:04:00 - [9] - Quote Exionous wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. It's actually quite an effective combo indoors I'm from the weird side of the internet
killian178 S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 14	Posted - 2014.04.27 03:13:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrus Grevare wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) This is true, but from someone that spec'ed to lvl 5 Gal commando I'd say don't go that far in Don't get me wrong it's a fun suit, but not competitive in any way. By the look of the weapons it gets a bonus to, it seems the primary role intended for the suit is CQC, but as it currently stands any heavy with a HMG will DESTROY you, it's almost impossible to get close up fast enough to use a shotgun without being ripped to shreds and the suit has NO EWAR or slots to help it make a case for it. The other commandos have range in their weapon's bonus, they can work the role of suppression specialist really good, not the Gallente variant unfortunately, the base AR is not bad, but IS outclassed by all other rifles, the AR variant rifles well, just ugh... Plasma Cannon, Ion pistol... Just don't skill all the way into it unless you got SP to burn, this is of course my humble opinion. Regards I sir, respectfully disagree. I'm not a freaking uber vet 40+ mill sp (humble 22+) and I do pretty darn good. (Depending on the map, opponent, game type, etc). open beta began, I've gone against the grain, spreading my sp into a wider range of skills, rather than go proto first and then branch out. That trend became the "go to" way of playing, but not necessarily the way it was intended to be played IMHO. Enter the "Galle-mander" The commando is the first suit to complement my specific playstyle. Having only this suit at lvl 4, every light weapon at three, few at 5, cores maxed; it can be an absolute monster. I need more fittings space and file folders (talking to you guys CCP) because I have at least 12 commando fits alone. As few tinker fits of mlt, and side project amarr scout (lol) I can counter anything and everything almost. I'm not the greatest player, but then again, just found my niche. The point I'm makin is simply this, the commando has a role, specific in design and function, and I think it's doing its job. The GaI is superior IMO because of the nature of being a support fighter, armor is the better option for me, never proffered shields, even when they where OP as hell. Having two light weapons, yes plz; equipment, oh yea!; no grenades is a bummer. But at least rich now, grenades kinda suck. I remember when a single AV nade used to takeout LAVs (pre murder taxi) and 3 for most Havs.It's lows are good for speed mods, or brick tank that sucker, hacker modded mofo? Damon straight! Its the most versatility crammed into one suit, with minor drawbacks. Just my 4 cents

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote This is gonna sound weird, but a G-1 commando with a AR+Ion pistol works well. Also, a AR+MD works well. AR+PLC is not as bad as it seems. And AR+TAR is the best combo at gk.0 "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2179	Posted - 2014.04.27 04:06:00 - [12] - Quote Exionous wrote: I'm going into Gallente Commando... but the only weapon I can think that falls under a "hybrid" weapon is the assault rifle and combat rifle. Is this seriously the only two weapons affected by the suit's bonus? by the very name "blaster" its hybrid.... assault rifle, shotgun, I think the smg are a few... also in hybrid class but not blaster are the forge gun and rail rifle. this game makes me sad....
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3661	Posted - 2014.04.27 04:06:00 - [13] - Quote Gal Commando will be good when AR gets buffed, and it will.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1006	Posted - 2014.04.27 04:25:00 - [14] - Quote Synergy is more important then using both weapon slots for gal weapons. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 559	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:22:00 - [15] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Synergy is more important than using both weapon slots for gal weapons. ^This. I use no HP mods on my Commando G/1, just 1 Comp Kin Cat, 1 Comp Cardiac Reg & 1 Comp DMG mod, with a Duvolle to take down shields and a BK-42 CR to chew through any remaining armour. Not the most deadly fit but very effective (in the right hands). Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Trained Skills
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:26:00 - [16] - Quote Spike Slania wrote: Correction, Combat Rifle is a Projectile Weapon. Your skill bonus effects Assault Rifles, Plasma Cannons, and Shotguns. Racial Shotguns and Light AV needed! Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:27:00 - [17] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gal Commando will be good when AR gets buffed, and it will. Scope and *slight DPS buff! Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:30:00 - [18] - Quote Cyrus Grevare wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) This is true, but from someone that spec'ed to lvl 5 Gal commando I'd say don't go that far in Don't get me wrong it's a fun suit, but not competitive in any way. By the look of the weapons it gets a bonus to, it seems the primary role intended for the suit is CQC, but as it currently stands any heavy with a HMG will DESTROY you, it's almost impossible to get close up fast enough to use a shotgun without being ripped to shreds and the suit has NO EWAR or slots to help it make a case for it. The other commandos have range in their weapon's bonus, they can work the role of suppression specialist really good, not the Gallente variant unfortunately, *the base AR is not bad, but IS outclassed by all other rifles, the AR variant* rifles well, just ugh...** Plasma Cannon, Ion pistol... Just don't skill all the way into it unless you got SP to burn, this is of course my humble opinion. Regards Hmm... perhaps give the standard AR a scope and remove the existing 3 variations in place of an assault plasma rifle with an improved rate of fire and ironsights? Then again, this is the wrong section of the forums for that. Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1191	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:43:00 - [19] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Spike Slania wrote: Correction, Combat Rifle is a Projectile Weapon. Your skill bonus effects Assault Rifles, Plasma Cannons, and Shotguns. Racial Shotguns and Light AV needed! Hate to break it to you but the Plasma Cannon is the Gal AV weapon. Good luck with that "...and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death."
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:45:00 - [20] - Quote Exionous wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. If I may, AR+CR is probably the most effective combo you're going to get. (You may as well just be fitting two CR's, though). Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!

Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 423	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:46:00 - [21] - Quote Exionous wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: According to this: http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Weapons_Overview Assault Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol and Shotgun. (Combat Rifle is actually classed as a Projectile Weapon) Wow... AR + Plasma Cannon is the most effective thing I can get. I guess I can work something out... Thanks. YEP, I sympathise. I'm Gallente too, and hate both these too. I sue what most others use too, the RR or combat. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:47:00 - [22] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Spike Slania wrote: Correction, Combat Rifle is a Projectile Weapon. Your skill bonus effects Assault Rifles, Plasma Cannons, and Shotguns. Racial Shotguns and Light AV needed! Hate to break it to you but the Plasma Cannon is the Gal AV weapon. Good luck with that Edit Plus from what I hear the MD is apparently its Minmatar equivalent. I Think only the Amarr doesn't have their's yet Plasma canon (in my experience with it) needs a clip size buff, but that's just me wanting to kill a sica in two clips. kek. Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2917	Posted - 2014.04.27 08:53:00 - [23] - Quote Hybrid weapons are the following: -Assault Rifle -Shotgun -Plasma cannon -Ion Pistol Not really the best choice of weapons there for a commando. To be honest the Caldari commando is probs the most viable due to its bonus for Railgun weapons (rail rifle,magsec SMG and sniper rifles). Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12764	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:10:00 - [24] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: This is gonna sound weird, but a G-1 commando with a AR+Ion pistol works well. Also, a AR+MD works well. AR+PLC is not as bad as it seems. And AR+TAR is the best combo at gk.0 If you're using AR + Ion pistol why not use a Sentinel? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 832	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:27:00 - [25] - Quote Exionous wrote: I'm going into Gallente Commando... but the only weapon I can think that falls under a "hybrid" weapon is the assault rifle and combat rifle. Is this seriously the only two weapons affected by the suit's bonus? The tooltips in this game sucks. How does a new player suppose to know what a hybrid weapon is? Who does he suppose to know what kind of damage +/-% shield/armor does a weapon give? And a lot of other things. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:33:00 - [26] - Quote meri jin wrote: Exionous wrote: I'm going into Gallente Commando... but the only weapon I can think that falls under a "hybrid" weapon is the assault rifle and combat rifle. Is this seriously the only two weapons affected by the suit's bonus? The tooltips in this game sucks. How does a new player suppose to know what a hybrid weapon is? Who does he suppose to know what kind of damage +/-% shield/armor does a weapon give? And a lot of other things. You're being too meta. +1 Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Cyrus Grevare WarRavens Final Resolution. 187	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:41:00 - [27] - Quote killian178 wrote: I sir, respectfully disagree. I'm not a freaking uber vet 40+ mill sp (humble 22+) and I do pretty darn good. (Depending on the map, opponent, game type, etc). open beta began, I've gone against the grain, spreading my sp into a wider range of skills, rather than go proto first and then branch out. That trend became the "go to" way of playing, but not necessarily the way it was intended to be played IMHO. Enter the "Galle-mander" The commando is the first suit to complement my specific playstyle. Having only this suit at lvl 4, every light weapon at three, few at 5, cores maxed; it can be an absolute monster. I need more fittings space and file folders (talking to you guys CCP) because I have at least 12 commando fits alone. As few tinker fits of mlt, and side project amarr scout (lol) I can counter anything and everything almost. I'm not the greatest player, but then again, just found my niche. The point I'm makin is simply this, the commando has a role, specific in design and function, and I think it's doing its job. The GaI is superior IMO because of the nature of being a support fighter, armor is the better option for me, never proffered shields, even when they where OP as hell. Having two light weapons, yes plz; equipment, oh yea!; no grenades is a bummer. But at least rich now, grenades kinda suck. I remember when a single AV nade used to takeout LAVs (pre murder taxi) and 3 for most Havs.It's lows are good for speed mods, or brick tank that sucker, hacker modded mofo? Damon straight! Its the most versatility crammed into one suit, with minor drawbacks. Just my 4 cents To remark I say the dropsuit is not competitive, not to interpret this as the suit being useless I've taken my bullet head prototype bad boy into PC matches (when they were more globally accessible (thanks DNS )) but bigger hardier bad boys and faster cloaked bad boys slapped it to the ground. Unlike what you mentioned I've always gone the specialization route, since I started playing it had been only one suit, one weapon, one sidearm and sticking to it for better or worse (Gallente Assault, AR, SMG) 1.8 came with the dropsuit respect and I moved all my SP from Gallente Assault to Gallente Commando giving it all the effort and dedication. My KDR has slowly but steadily been declining as a result, not that I give much importance to it, but it is a stat that if not abused, gives insight. I find the "Ready for any situation" somewhat as false advertising for the suit honestly, the bonuses commandos get are restrained to certain types of weapons and they don't encompass a broad range of things to be ready for. I like you, have several fits to combat the most scenarios I can, but if you end up with something silly like say your Gal commando with a mass driver and scrambler rifle... what's the point? you're not playing the suit's strengths and intended role, it's not the optimal scenario you could be in. The numbers game has the suit performing below stronger suits. It's hard to admit, but I think most agree. Yet as I said, Gallente Commando is fun to play, a good player can do good in it - a good player can do good in ANY suit, but take that same player and don him in a better suit and he will do great. Of course your play style is also synergistic with the suit you use. A player that only snipes and is good at only sniping, will do bad even if he uses the pimpiest FOTM build. I'd be more than happy to see fellow Galcoms swarming the point, more so being good at it. But do you see them often? I don't. There's scant few players that use dropsuits or weapons for lore and style reasons, sticking with painfully obvious flaws, like a guy running a PLC blowing one or two redberries a match, or the guy that wants to get a precious kill with the Ion, sure there's a few PLC prodigies out there I'm sure, but I might be able to count them in one hand. My respect to those that don't give up and try to make their selections work. Of course, my observations are as of 1.8, new builds might change this, like someone said, if the AR gets getter, who knows? Regards www.protofits.com - a Dust 514 fitting tool
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 145	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:43:00 - [28] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Spike Slania wrote: Correction, Combat Rifle is a Projectile Weapon. Your skill bonus effects Assault Rifles, Plasma Cannons, and Shotguns. Racial Shotguns and Light AV needed! Shotgun is the Gallente exclusive, as the MD is for Minmatar, Laser for Amarr and Sniper for Caldari.
Jason Pearson State Terrestrial Mercenaries 4220	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:47:00 - [29] - Quote Cloak it. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 577	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:11:00 - [30] - Quote I always look here for my weapon type questions: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64862/1/damageprofiles.jpg Thanks CCP Foxfour MAG vet: SVER



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