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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:53:00 -
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We cant go on this Way. Everytime I skill something new that isn't clearly garbage I m afraid that it ll be nerfed to the ground and I will find myself with wasted sp.
After 1.8 I skilled into minscout and Min combat, I was pretty sure it d be a safe choice since they are, if not UP, clearly not OP.
But now everyone is Qqing about cloaks and combat rifle not seeing that:
1 sentinels and commando are very strong and logis are balanced as they are. The only thing that need a change are assaults.
2 rr is better than cr in long range but worse in close range As it should be. AR is better against shield but worse against armor. Same for the scr and it also as more Alfa dmg and more range. Hmg is the weapon that is unbalanced.
3 the only problem with cloak is the bug that let you shoot while cloaked.
So: buff assaults, nerf (a little bit) hmg, Fix cloak and then
WORK ON IMPORTANT THINGS!!!
Thank you.
Minmatar loyalist!
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
438
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:16:00 -
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We need a sub-forum for all the balance topics.
Oh, and some forum moderators to keep all the QQ out of general discussion.
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Cheydinhal Guard
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:17:00 -
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Inb4"NERF CR IT TOO STRONGZ".
Full-time GalLogi, overtime CalScout.
Nulli secundus
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
1444
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:34:00 -
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I think we can put away the hammer and switch to a chisel. The CR is a bit too strong still. I'd like to see a slight nerf to the damage profile on projectile weapons so they net 0% (armor bonus - shield penalty) like all of the other weapon damage profiles. I'd also like to see the laser weapon's and AR get a buff via a buff to shields so their shield bonus is more meaningful. We can reevaluate after that. IMO that's not a hammer, that's a chisel or scalpel. We should have small incremental tweaks until all weapons are useful, competitive and fun in their respective roles.
Best PvE idea ever!
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
784
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:41:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I think we can put away the hammer and switch to a chisel. The CR is a bit too strong still. I'd like to see a slight nerf to the damage profile on projectile weapons so they net 0% (armor bonus - shield penalty) like all of the other weapon damage profiles. I'd also like to see the laser weapon's and AR get a buff via a buff to shields so their shield bonus is more meaningful. We can reevaluate after that. IMO that's not a hammer, that's a chisel or scalpel. We should have small incremental tweaks until all weapons are useful, competitive and fun in their respective roles.
I could answer you but I wont cause of alliance
Minmatar loyalist!
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:48:00 -
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The fact that there is no burst delay on the combat rifle and the 5% gain in its damage profile along with high rate of fire and good range profile makes it have multiple positives with no negatives.
=^,.,^=
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:56:00 -
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Logis balanced you say?
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you!
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
1445
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:00:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The fact that there is no burst delay on the combat rifle and the 5% gain in its damage profile along with high rate of fire and good range profile makes it have multiple positives with no negatives.
Don't forget fantastic fitting requirements.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7266
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:08:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:The fact that there is no burst delay on the combat rifle and the 5% gain in its damage profile along with high rate of fire and good range profile makes it have multiple positives with no negatives. Don't forget fantastic fitting requirements.
Yes, because 81 CPU is so fantastic.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4918
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:47:00 -
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Nothing has ever been nerfed to the ground.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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Assault Swarm Launcher
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:50:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Nothing has ever been nerfed to the ground.
*Reads 1.7 Patch Notes*
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
1446
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:The fact that there is no burst delay on the combat rifle and the 5% gain in its damage profile along with high rate of fire and good range profile makes it have multiple positives with no negatives. Don't forget fantastic fitting requirements. Yes, because 81 CPU is so fantastic.
Most of my suits are starved for PG well before CPU becomes an issue. Most of the fitting skills are for CPU, so a weapon with low PG is very nice. I'm not saying it needs a nerf, just that it's another nice feature of the weapon and should be included in the list of "pros."
Best PvE idea ever!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12732
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:16:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote: rr is better than cr in long range but worse in close range As it should be. AR is better against shield but worse against armor. Same for the scr and it also as more Alfa dmg and more range. Hmg is the weapon that is unbalanced.
3 the only problem with cloak is the bug that let you shoot while cloaked.
Except the CR does more significantly more damage than an AR against both armour and shields whilst having a longer range.
The AR is flat out inferior to the CR.
Agreed on the HMG, agreed on the cloak 'problem'.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12732
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:The fact that there is no burst delay on the combat rifle and the 5% gain in its damage profile along with high rate of fire and good range profile makes it have multiple positives with no negatives. Don't forget fantastic fitting requirements. Yes, because 81 CPU is so fantastic.
Actually, 81 CPU is fantastic. It's the lowest CPU requirement of any rifle, in some cases by quite a bit. Whilst requiring much less in the way of PG. The advantage is also overwhelmingly present at lower tiers.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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