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Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4018	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:37:00 - [1] - Quote All the other Assault suits have a bonus that applies to both light and sidearm weaponry. But the Amarr only see a benefit to light weaponry. Can we get some of that ScP RoF back? Oh and let the Minmatar have that MD bonus ffs. They're rare enough as it is. No.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2559	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least.
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 783	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:42:00 - [3] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: All the other Assault suits have a bonus that applies to both light and sidearm weaponry. But the Amarr only see a benefit to light weaponry. Can we get some of that ScP RoF back? Oh and let the Minmatar have that MD bonus ffs. They're rare enough as it is. Everyone that asks tlfor a bonus to a weapon always ask for more rof or dps... Just no!!! Maybe decrease the dispersion of the scp, we could talk about that. Minmatar loyalist!
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1651	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:42:00 - [4] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9006	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:47:00 - [5] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: All the other Assault suits have a bonus that applies to both light and sidearm weaponry. But the Amarr only see a benefit to light weaponry. Can we get some of that ScP RoF back? Oh and let the Minmatar have that MD bonus ffs. They're rare enough as it is. Everyone that asks tlfor a bonus to a weapon always ask for more rof or dps... Just no!!! Maybe decrease the dispersion of the scp, we could talk about that. Dispersion reduction? On the most accurate pistol in the game? Seems legit. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2560	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:48:00 - [6] - Quote Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? It would make a lot more sense than what we have now imo. I also think we could put in heat sinks as high slot mods. Possibly add overheat to all plasma weaponry too. Low slot damage mod, high slot heatsink. They both make sense in terms of desired racials slots as an alternative to dual tanking. It would also let them rebalance weapons like the lolAR and the lolPLC by making them more powerful and adding in overheat to compensate. Would give each race their own feel. Projectile is just run and gun with big clip size issues and zero overheat, rail has charge time and a little bit of ammo/clip size issues, laser has massive overheat problems and almost no reload/clip size issues and plasma is little bit of overheat and little bit of clip size.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1653	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:54:00 - [7] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? It would make a lot more sense than what we have now imo. I also think we could put in heat sinks as high slot mods. Possibly add overheat to all plasma weaponry too. Low slot damage mod, high slot heatsink. They both make sense in terms of desired racials slots as an alternative to dual tanking. It would also let them rebalance weapons like the lolAR and the lolPLC by making them more powerful and adding in overheat to compensate. Would give each race their own feel. Projectile is just run and gun with big clip size issues and zero overheat, rail has charge time and a little bit of ammo/clip size issues, laser has massive overheat problems and almost no reload/clip size issues and plasma is little bit of overheat and little bit of clip size. Completely agree. I've suggested a long time ago that all weapons should have heat buildup of varying degrees depending on weapon type. I'd also want to see low slot damage mods and high slot heat sinks. Heat sinks should be carefully designed though. You don't want them to be too effective when coupled with the Amarr assault Maybe heat sinks can just speed up both standard and overheat cooling speeds. I'd definitely fit those to my Amarr assault instead of some shield extenders. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3025	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:55:00 - [8] - Quote Eh maybe we will when we get a smg. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 802	Posted - 2014.04.26 16:17:00 - [9] - Quote Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? Cat Merc and Arkena will plot a certain CCP Dev's murder No seriously, the IoP needs to have highest ROF, and is in need of a buff before this Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 802	Posted - 2014.04.26 16:19:00 - [10] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Eh maybe we will when we get a smg. I get wet just thinking of an amarrian designed SMG, keeping in mind the ScR Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy

Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 76	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:02:00 - [11] - Quote Assaults are the Dust bitches so, no. I can see you Buy a tank Buy an assault dropship
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12732	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:14:00 - [12] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? Cat Merc and Arkena will plot a certain CCP Dev's murder No seriously, the IoP needs to have highest ROF, and is in need of a buff before this It's already been plotted a thousand times. Honestly though, the ScP already outperforms the IoP in almost every way. Restoring the RoF would make the ScP utterly dominate the IoP even with an overheat mechanic. Do note that the IoP has an overheat mechanic as well (an exceptionally sloppy one). That said, I dislike having any pistol that has a RoF low enough to be subject to oversampling. Also, I don't like the idea of shoehorning overheat into a weapon just so one suit can have an already exceptionally powerful bonus get a little bit better. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5075	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:21:00 - [13] - Quote As someone who used to run a scrambler pistol as a main, it definitely should not go back to it's old ROF. Unless all other pistols and side arms are brought up to the scrambler pistol's level of ridiculousness, it got a sensible nerf. The scrambler pistol is insanely easy to oversample now but if you hit the rhythm you can still fire it fairly fast. Scrambler pistol is still better than most lightweapons. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Boot Booter Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 530	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:37:00 - [14] - Quote No stop asking for silly stuff. The amarr bonus is amazing. It applies to two light weapons currently. When an amarr SMG is released then you'll have your side arm. Idk why you need it though, the SR is the best gun in the game when used by the Amarr assault. SMG Specialist
RA Drahcir Inner.Hell 364	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:46:00 - [15] - Quote Swap the mechanics of the ScP and Ion, then the Amarr Assault bonus could apply to the ScP and Gal Assault to the Ion.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 365	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:19:00 - [16] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I would be all for seeing a very unforgiving over heat mechanic on the ScP if it meant I could actually get 3 shots off before that scout with his combat rifle cooks my suit. It always has been a bit weird to me that it is suppose to be a laser weapon yet works nothing like a laser weapon. The numbers on the ScP pre-1.8 would suggest it was originally meant to have it.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4020	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: All the other Assault suits have a bonus that applies to both light and sidearm weaponry. But the Amarr only see a benefit to light weaponry. Can we get some of that ScP RoF back? Oh and let the Minmatar have that MD bonus ffs. They're rare enough as it is. Everyone that asks tlfor a bonus to a weapon always ask for more rof or dps... Just no!!! Maybe decrease the dispersion of the scp, we could talk about that. Lol, does the ScP have any dispersion? No.
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 326	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:34:00 - [18] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? It would make a lot more sense than what we have now imo. I also think we could put in heat sinks as high slot mods. Possibly add overheat to all plasma weaponry too. Low slot damage mod, high slot heatsink. They both make sense in terms of desired racials slots as an alternative to dual tanking. It would also let them rebalance weapons like the lolAR and the lolPLC by making them more powerful and adding in overheat to compensate. Would give each race their own feel. Projectile is just run and gun with big clip size issues and zero overheat, rail has charge time and a little bit of ammo/clip size issues, laser has massive overheat problems and almost no reload/clip size issues and plasma is little bit of overheat and little bit of clip size. Yes please, CCP. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
MINA Longstrike 565	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:39:00 - [19] - Quote Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? The SCP doesn't need any tweaking to its RoF at all. It is perfectly fine and properly balanced now. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 365	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:42:00 - [20] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Harpyja wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All laser weapons should have an overheat mechanic... ScP included... imo at least. I'm just thinking out loud here, what if the ScP got its RoF back but with an overheat mechanic? The SCP doesn't need any tweaking to its RoF at all. It is perfectly fine and properly balanced now. Try shooting one of these m/kb scouts with it and tell me again that it is "perfectly fine". It was perfectly fine before (tho a damage reduction would not have hurt) but the assholes using turbo controllers exploiting it ruined it for the rest of us.



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