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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2148
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:00:00 -
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It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank.
Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0
I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****.
Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas.
Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets.
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:07:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. Nerf blaster ? Are you joking? They have only to make different dam mode % . 30% on a rail turrept is different from the same on blaster |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1264
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:08:00 -
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If anything infantry av needs more wp for vehicke damage, as in less damage required for wp
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2074
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:08:00 -
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I've seen higher. Really only happens in PC because in PC they don't stop calling in tanks but in pubs they do.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2148
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:11:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. Nerf blaster ? Are you joking? They have only to make different dam mode % . 30% on a rail turrept is different from the same on blaster All I know is, I just walked all over about a dozen damage-modded rail tanks over the course of a Domination match, because all it takes is nitros to out-strafe a railgun with ease. They could barely land 1 shot per 5-10 seconds, if they were lucky, giving me plenty of time to regen and blaster them down.
@Benjamin Cisko: I have no doubt you've seen higher, but I'm not a real tanker, I suck at tanks, I shouldn't be able to pull this sort of score.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
773
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:14:00 -
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What are your feelings on Dropships (side or pilot guns)? I could personally take it or leave it. I almost never get damage wp, and for my Incubus it seems to reward the points once the tanks hp has dropped below a certain point and I hit it. Ive taken out a tanks shields and like 40% of its armor and got no points, other times i've fired and landed a single shot on a tank with no shields and less than 50% of its armor and got damage points. Doesn't seem to make sense, just like the transport points. Anyway, I don't know much about large blaster turrets, but I would accept vehicle damage wp for infantry only.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2148
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:20:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:What are your feelings on Dropships (side or pilot guns)? I could personally take it or leave it. I almost never get damage wp, and for my Incubus it seems to reward the points once the tanks hp has dropped below a certain point and I hit it. Ive taken out a tanks shields and like 40% of its armor and got no points, other times i've fired and landed a single shot on a tank with no shields and less than 50% of its armor and got damage points. Doesn't seem to make sense, just like the transport points. Anyway, I don't know much about large blaster turrets, but I would accept vehicle damage wp for infantry only. Oh, I'm not talking about dropships at all. Small turrets don't do damage a rate that makes this a problem- as you said, it barely comes up, I almost never get vehicle damage WP running around in my Python.
The problem only appears when it's a large turret- over the course of maybe 5 seconds of shooting at a LAV, for example, it's +75, +75, +40. That's the equivalent of almost 5 infantry kills, just for blowing up an unmanned LAV. Against a tank, over maybe 10 seconds, +75, +75, +150, or the equivalent of six infantry kills. It's a disproportionately high reward for what I'm doing, especially compared to the amount of work it would take to earn that WP as an infantry player.
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SPACE SYPHILIS
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:22:00 -
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Its simple. Make the WP's for infantry and for tankers standard scores. |
MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
468
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:22:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. How do you do it? I never get vehicle damage points with Blasters... Except on some occasions I do get 1 +75 when destroying an LAV. But never for HAV or Dropships. On the other hand when flying my Python I get a sh!t ton of +75s for every vehicle kill / kill attempt.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2149
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:29:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. How do you do it? I never get vehicle damage points with Blasters... Except on some occasions I do get 1 +75 when destroying an LAV. But never for HAV or Dropships. On the other hand when flying my Python I get a sh!t ton of +75s for every vehicle kill / kill attempt. Uhh... point large blaster at HAV, shoot until I'm nearly overheated or until it pops. Repeat until tired of exploiting poor game balance.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2149
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:30:00 -
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SPACE SYPHILIS wrote:Its simple. Make the WP's for infantry and for tankers standard scores. What do you mean? I have no idea what you're actually trying to propose.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
468
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:32:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. How do you do it? I never get vehicle damage points with Blasters... Except on some occasions I do get 1 +75 when destroying an LAV. But never for HAV or Dropships. On the other hand when flying my Python I get a sh!t ton of +75s for every vehicle kill / kill attempt. Uhh... point large blaster at HAV, shoot until I'm nearly overheated or until it pops. Repeat until tired of exploiting poor game balance. Doing that I only get +50 for the kill and +150 for HAV destruction. If I use a rail however, I get +75 as many times as I hit the HAV minus the first and last hit, but if I am using triple damage mods and 2 shot the enemy HAV I only get the same result as with Blaster... 3 hitting results in 1 +75... and 4 hitting 2 +75, and so on...
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
468
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:34:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:SPACE SYPHILIS wrote:Its simple. Make the WP's for infantry and for tankers standard scores. What do you mean? I have no idea what you're actually trying to propose. He's saying that damaging vehicles with vehicles should not result in vehicle damage points, only when you damage vehicles as infantry should it give you damage points.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2149
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:34:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. How do you do it? I never get vehicle damage points with Blasters... Except on some occasions I do get 1 +75 when destroying an LAV. But never for HAV or Dropships. On the other hand when flying my Python I get a sh!t ton of +75s for every vehicle kill / kill attempt. Uhh... point large blaster at HAV, shoot until I'm nearly overheated or until it pops. Repeat until tired of exploiting poor game balance. Doing that I only get +50 for the kill and +150 for HAV destruction. If I use a rail however, I get +75 as many times as I hit the HAV minus the first and last hit, but if I am using triple damage mods and 2 shot the enemy HAV I only get the same result as with Blaster... 3 hitting results in 1 +75... and 4 hitting 2 +75, and so on... Huh, that's very weird. I was definitely seeing two +75s for every HAV kill with the blaster, more or less evenly spaced- after taking down the first third of its primary tank, be it shield or armor, I got the first +75, then the second +75 after the next third, then the +150 +50.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2149
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:35:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:SPACE SYPHILIS wrote:Its simple. Make the WP's for infantry and for tankers standard scores. What do you mean? I have no idea what you're actually trying to propose. He's saying that damaging vehicles with vehicles should not result in vehicle damage points, only when you damage vehicles as infantry should it give you damage points. Oh, I see. So, basically exactly what I suggested.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
468
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:38:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's too much. Much, much too much. I've had great infantry games before with over 5k WP, but I just set a new record without even trying, watching TV while playing my tank alt. Foolishly, I hadn't made my own squad, since I wasn't expecting to earn OBs, so this is all without any OB kills. 5.7k WP, 26/1. That one death was a JLAV that snuck up on me as I was killing a rail tank. Proof: http://imgur.com/0EJORP8,xjGZBVU#0I'm not a tanker, I can't drive tanks for ****. Blaster tanks are too easy. All but the most experienced rail tankers can be easily out-strafed with nitros, I haven't run into a missile tank in ages, though they would suffer from the same tracking issues as rails, and other blaster tanks tend to be shitfit Somas. Nerf large blaster tracking and/or damage, potentially. Definitely, however, vehicle damage WP should only be rewarded to AV weapons, NOT tank turrets. How do you do it? I never get vehicle damage points with Blasters... Except on some occasions I do get 1 +75 when destroying an LAV. But never for HAV or Dropships. On the other hand when flying my Python I get a sh!t ton of +75s for every vehicle kill / kill attempt. Uhh... point large blaster at HAV, shoot until I'm nearly overheated or until it pops. Repeat until tired of exploiting poor game balance. Doing that I only get +50 for the kill and +150 for HAV destruction. If I use a rail however, I get +75 as many times as I hit the HAV minus the first and last hit, but if I am using triple damage mods and 2 shot the enemy HAV I only get the same result as with Blaster... 3 hitting results in 1 +75... and 4 hitting 2 +75, and so on... Huh, that's very weird. I was definitely seeing two +75s for every HAV kill with the blaster, more or less evenly spaced- after taking down the first third of its primary tank, be it shield or armor, I got the first +75, then the second +75 after the next third, then the +150 +50. Well, the only thing where I get insane, and maybe weird WP is killing an LAV with the driver and/or passenger(s) still inside. I get +75 for damaging and then +40 destruction for blowing it up and then +50 kill for every guy inside the LAV and on top of that I also get +25 kill assist for every guy inside it... like wtf? Why do I get an assist on top of kill?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1267
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:42:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:If anything infantry av needs more wp for vehicke damage, as in less damage required for wp
I disagree, this is from forging only
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1262
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:49:00 -
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Your post is a bait and switch. You state "Vehicle damage WP [...] it's too much. Much, much too much" but then go on to say that Blasters are too powerful. At the end, you give a suggestion that was in regards to your original statement in your thread name. Like the above poster, I have never gotten vehicle damage with a blaster. Maybe it is just because I use a Standard Blaster without a damage amplifier.
Railguns is to HAV what Bat is to WP Pi+Ķata for me.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2151
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:54:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Your post is a bait and switch. You state "Vehicle damage WP [...] it's too much. Much, much too much" but then go on to say that Blasters are too powerful. At the end, you give a suggestion that was in regards to your original statement in your thread name. Like the above poster, I have never gotten vehicle damage with a blaster. Maybe it is just because I use a Standard Blaster without a damage amplifier.
Railguns is to HAV what Bat is to WP Pi+Ķata for me. I suppose I did get rather sidetracked on blasters there, sorry. Blasters just happened to be the HAV turret I used to hit the WP pinata- I was using a Neutron blaster, with a damage mod on maybe half my HAV kills. It's really the combination of both issues that inspired this post- I suppose I could have titled the thread better.
Either way, it's too easy to get vehicle damage WP in a HAV, or not easy enough as infantry.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1267
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Posted - 2014.04.25 22:01:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:If anything infantry av needs more wp for vehicke damage, as in less damage required for wp I disagree, this is from forging only Good finally av gets something
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