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Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:50:00 -
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Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. |
X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:58:00 -
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theres a feature thats been in fps for a long time called a spawn room, it solves this issue (keep in mind uplink spawning would still be a risk.)
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Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:03:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:theres a feature thats been in fps for a long time called a spawn room, it solves this issue (keep in mind uplink spawning would still be a risk.) No I mean why don't they put it in Dust 514 |
Vitsuna Lancaster
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:06:00 -
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Would be nice if the caladari logi needles gave a bonus on revival. Temp invulnerability for 2 secs. That would fix the glitch where they cant do **** for 2 seconds after being revived and get shot by snipers. Also would give a real bonus to the poor cal logis that have been given the shorter stick over the last 4 updates. Even I stopped playing them and have switched to the minmatar logi. Even with the 80% needle ive seen people go down way too fast to there respective Armor points. Im not saying that dudes with 200 armor. but 1200 ones get taken in 2 seconds on revive outside a door frame in which they just need to step a foot to the left or right to be out of sight. ha rhymes. something is off. |
Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:46:00 -
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Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die.
What is I accidentally spawn kill someone
say I'm in a tank near an enemy CRU and while shooting someone a scout spawns and I kill them by pure chance
is it fair that my tank get destroyed for that?
If I hack a objective and someone spawns at the last second how long do I need to duck and hide before it's safe to shoot them
"and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:57:00 -
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New Eden is a cruel place. The goal of the game is to win, and you do that by destroying the enemy clones. Farming CRUs and uplinks is and should continue to be a viable tactic for burning as many enemy clones as possible.
Think twice about spawning with expensive stuff on risky uplinks or contested CRUs.
If your team doesn't have any good spawns, then maybe you should take it upon yourself to be the one to help your blues out? Game mechanics don't need to be changed.
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Samuel Zelik
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:30:00 -
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Spawn killing can't be stopped, but it can be deterred and prevented. Rather than killing the spawn killer (which is a vague, unreliable term to begin with), add some type of notification system to Uplinks on the spawn screen/overhead map where if 3-5 consecutive deaths(within 15-20 seconds of each other) occur within 3-10 meters of an Uplink, the Uplink will flash or fade-in/fade-out, etc. for 15-20 seconds after the consecutive kills. This will at least notify players where contested zones are and deter players from spawning in that location.
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Tali Di'Dreassess
Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2014.04.26 01:19:00 -
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New Eden is cruel is just a poor excuse for your BS spawn camping. And usually is coming out of the mouth of a BS camper. Spawn camping is down right cheating. I'd prerfer a longer invinsible time. say 10 seconds, and if you red berries die it's your fault for camping.
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.26 01:21:00 -
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If you want to spawn 100% save spawn in your MCC. Uplinks are always a risk like squad deploy in BF.
Define camper. I am not goying to hack a CRU without someone covering my back.The same for uplinks if i am out of grenades.
This will help the game
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akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.26 01:45:00 -
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no..
spawn killing is part of the game. this game is not flowers and candy, if you see a bunch of your people showing as dying pretty fast one after the other.. its a spawn camp killing them.
having a total lack of awareness for the battle does not mean that there is a problem with the game.
enough with the constant need for hand holding. |
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:59:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:If you want to spawn 100% save spawn in your MCC. Uplinks are always a risk like squad deploy in BF.
Define camper. I am not goying to hack a CRU without someone covering my back.The same for uplinks if i am out of grenades.
Practical and realistic.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.26 05:29:00 -
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The MCC is your spawn room, don't be a noob, consider that uplinks with short spawn times are closer to enemies than ones with long spawn times, also Proto links spawn you faster than normal ones. Oh and also amarrian logi uplinks so really spawn time is irrelevant.
What you want to live forever? There is only one sure thing in Dust. You will die. Grow a pair and use your head, if the links are camped spawn with links and set new ones. Your spawn camper penalty is contrary to the idea that we are getting paid to kill. I will spawn camp. I will use your links against you and I will see the new ones, destroy the ones not producing results...why? To educate you, to help you transition to a new fresh clone and to help put you out of your misery as fast as possible.
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Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:40:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. What is I accidentally spawn kill someone say I'm in a tank near an enemy CRU and while shooting someone a scout spawns and I kill them by pure chance is it fair that my tank get destroyed for that? If I hack a objective and someone spawns at the last second how long do I need to duck and hide before it's safe to shoot them Doesn't apply to Vehicle spawning but destroying a vehicle while it is being dropped or killing the dude before they get in counts as spawn killing. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:47:00 -
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Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. Why? Because it would be a bullshit feature
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Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:47:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:The MCC is your spawn room, don't be a noob, consider that uplinks with short spawn times are closer to enemies than ones with long spawn times, also Proto links spawn you faster than normal ones. Oh and also amarrian logi uplinks so really spawn time is irrelevant.
What you want to live forever? There is only one sure thing in Dust. You will die. Grow a pair and use your head, if the links are camped spawn with links and set new ones. Your spawn camper penalty is contrary to the idea that we are getting paid to kill. I will spawn camp. I will use your links against you and I will see the new ones, destroy the ones not producing results...why? To educate you, to help you transition to a new fresh clone and to help put you out of your misery as fast as possible.
So you're saying playing unfair is ok. So if a person exploits and steal all your isk and skill points you'll be ok. If a person removes all your stuff you'll be fine? |
Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:52:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. Why? Because it would be a bullshit feature Why because you are a dumbass. If you jackasses want to put bullshit I recommend you put it in your on topics. |
Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:57:00 -
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Tali Di'Dreassess wrote:New Eden is cruel is just a poor excuse for your BS spawn camping. And usually is coming out of the mouth of a BS camper. Spawn camping is down right cheating. I'd prerfer a longer invinsible time. say 10 seconds, and if you red berries die it's your fault for camping.
Invisible? It doesn't help why not a invicibility for 10 secs and damage x5 for 5 secs so they can fend off the spawn killers. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:06:00 -
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Steel Shinobi wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. Why? Because it would be a bullshit feature Why because you are a dumbass. If you jackasses want to put bullshit I recommend you put it in your on topics. Hey if you are stupid enough to spawn (repeatedly) on a point that's being camped or on a uplink while noticing a lack of blueberries in the vicinity (or blue berries dying close to the uplink) you deserved it.
And playing "unfair" is a fact in this game much like it is in EVE online
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Steel Shinobi
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:16:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:The MCC is your spawn room, don't be a noob, consider that uplinks with short spawn times are closer to enemies than ones with long spawn times, also Proto links spawn you faster than normal ones. Oh and also amarrian logi uplinks so really spawn time is irrelevant.
What you want to live forever? There is only one sure thing in Dust. You will die. Grow a pair and use your head, if the links are camped spawn with links and set new ones. Your spawn camper penalty is contrary to the idea that we are getting paid to kill. I will spawn camp. I will use your links against you and I will see the new ones, destroy the ones not producing results...why? To educate you, to help you transition to a new fresh clone and to help put you out of your misery as fast as possible.
So you're ok when you spawn and explode without doing anything. |
Steel Shinobi
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:21:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. Why? Because it would be a bullshit feature Why because you are a dumbass. If you jackasses want to put bullshit I recommend you put it in your on topics. Hey if you are stupid enough to spawn (repeatedly) on a point that's being camped or on a uplink while noticing a lack of blueberries in the vicinity (or blue berries dying close to the uplink) you deserved it. And playing "unfair" is a fact in this game much like it is in EVE online We don't spawn at the same place they spawn camp in every spawn point we have including our MCC they put vehicles and REs near our MCC. In ambush its worst dumbass logistics put drop uplinks everywhere. In ambush you should never put uplinks or we will keep getting spawn killed. |
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:49:00 -
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Steel Shinobi wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:The MCC is your spawn room, don't be a noob, consider that uplinks with short spawn times are closer to enemies than ones with long spawn times, also Proto links spawn you faster than normal ones. Oh and also amarrian logi uplinks so really spawn time is irrelevant.
What you want to live forever? There is only one sure thing in Dust. You will die. Grow a pair and use your head, if the links are camped spawn with links and set new ones. Your spawn camper penalty is contrary to the idea that we are getting paid to kill. I will spawn camp. I will use your links against you and I will see the new ones, destroy the ones not producing results...why? To educate you, to help you transition to a new fresh clone and to help put you out of your misery as fast as possible.
So you're ok when you spawn and explode without doing anything. I was around when the CRUs were getting blown up while you were spawning, today is a lot easier to spawn sans death, just be smart, don't hit spawn and walk away from the TV. I also find that if you don't spawn a lot this also reduces the number of times that I explode.
I didn't say I was ok with it, I take the fight to the guys that are killing me much as I would suspect you do but this is not even close to anoying. How about when someone spawns next to a CRU, calls in a tank as soon as they spawn and kills 4-5 blueberries right beside the CRU when they spawn? Thats not even enemy fire. Thats stupid blueberry disease.
It can be annoying big deal. It can also be stopped by refreshing uplinks and not spawning near campers so you have your tools, stop crying about it.
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TunRa
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:39:00 -
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Steel Shinobi wrote:Jax Saurian wrote:Steel Shinobi wrote:Why isn't this a feature. There were lots of people raging because of this. Please make a feature: when a person spawn kills they die. What is I accidentally spawn kill someone say I'm in a tank near an enemy CRU and while shooting someone a scout spawns and I kill them by pure chance is it fair that my tank get destroyed for that? If I hack a objective and someone spawns at the last second how long do I need to duck and hide before it's safe to shoot them Doesn't apply to Vehicle spawning but destroying a vehicle while it is being dropped or killing the dude before they get in counts as spawn killing. You are a ******* idiot. Since when was Dust, or New Eden for that matter, supposed to be fair? Stop being a sissy and use your head.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:26:00 -
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Tali Di'Dreassess wrote:New Eden is cruel is just a poor excuse for your BS spawn camping. And usually is coming out of the mouth of a BS camper. Spawn camping is down right cheating. I'd prerfer a longer invinsible time. say 10 seconds, and if you red berries die it's your fault for camping.
It's not cheating to milk idiots who keep spawning on unsafe links. Pay a little bit of attention to when the blue arrows around the links start disappearing. That'll tell you all you need to know.
If you can't be bothered to do that, or you come right back to the same CRU you just died at then you deserve to lose a few suits. dying once is bad luck. Dying twice is your own damn fault.
Farming spawns has been a brutally effective part of Dust for the entire time the game has existed. Gate camps in EVE are the same thing. Safety is not guaranteed in New Eden. The game shouldn't be changed just because some people need their hands held.
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