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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:55:00 -
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a gal logi with a proto scanner has 21 scan radius. focused is 15. a caldari scout has 27, 21.60, 17.85, 15.81, 14.91 for each precision enhancer you add.
gallente scout 23.63 uncloaked 17.72 cloaked 1c+1e damp 14.64 uncloaked 1e 14.18 cloaked
other races 31.50 uncloaked 23.63 cloaked 4c 14.73 uncloaked 1c+1e 14.64 cloaked
if you hate scouts so much, maybe you should consider specializing into one of the above roles... or just keep complaining.
whenever i die to a scout or a vehicle i don't come on the forums and complain.. i use my effing eyes or pull out my gal logi.. and wish there was a gallente or amarr av that worked haha.
Primus sucks.
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Lucifalic
Nos Nothi
412
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:01:00 -
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Your signature sucks. Unless it's irony you should feel bad
Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
447
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:13:00 -
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Hello Mr. Krinkle...how are you today.....
I throw boxes of chocolates that go BOOOOOOOM!
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
398
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:25:00 -
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seems the rumors are about your team might move away
Lucifalic i like your post lol
Primus sucks.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1174
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:38:00 -
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Yes cus we all have 3.4 mil SP laying around waitong for the solution to scouts* Or there's always a Gal logi just waiting in the wings to squad up but we never invited him until now
What were we thinking
The solution is good team play and awareness. That's all
-*Not even a complete solution, Its based on fit and enemy loadout. Not to mention the scanners themselves are limited.
"...and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death."
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
398
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:40:00 -
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you don't have a single cal scout or gal logi in that alliance of yours? nice.
Primus sucks.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1349
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:42:00 -
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well this is what I think about the caldari scout: -you need 4 precision enhancers to see a cloaked scout with 2 damps that isnt a gal scout -passive scan awards zero WP -caldari scout with precision enhancers are made out of paper and anyone with eyes and brain will sneeze at you and you die instantly. while you can make a working fit by filling out all slots for passive scanning to get 75m scan range and 14,91 scan precision + use a sniper rifle and sit back all day long. the question is, is that fun or uselful? better dont get hit by a rail rifle, sniper or laser because you die almost instantly. |
Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
398
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:43:00 -
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Dogs of War Gaming - Zero-Day recruitment!
Militia suits required- what is skillpoint?
Primus sucks.
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
398
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:46:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:well this is what I think about the caldari scout: -you need 4 precision enhancers to see a cloaked scout with 2 damps that isnt a gal scout -passive scan awards zero WP -caldari scout with precision enhancers are made out of paper and anyone with eyes and brain will sneeze at you and you die instantly. while you can make a working fit by filling out all slots for passive scanning to get 75m scan range and 14,91 scan precision + use a sniper rifle and sit back all day long. the question is, is that fun or uselful? better dont get hit by a rail rifle, sniper or laser because you die almost instantly.
that's fair i guess. it is a big investment- but you and your squad get a constant focused scanner. i mean... do you need warpoints to justify that? and what about putting the scout into a vehicle?
these are options that need to be looked at man. i don't think anyones even bothering tho, they just run headfirst into a corner camping shotgun and rage. you don't even need a cloak for half the stuff these people complain about- it's tiring reading it...
Primus sucks.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
528
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:48:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=sharing#gid=0 a gal logi with a proto scanner has 21 scan radius. focused is 15. a caldari scout has 27, 21.60, 17.85, 15.81, 14.91 for each precision enhancer you add. gallente scout 23.63 uncloaked 17.72 cloaked 1c+1e damp 14.64 uncloaked 1e 14.18 cloaked other races 31.50 uncloaked 23.63 cloaked 4c 14.73 uncloaked 1c+1e 14.64 cloaked if you hate scouts so much, maybe you should consider specializing into one of the above roles... or just keep complaining. whenever i die to a scout or a vehicle i don't come on the forums and complain.. i use my effing eyes or pull out my gal logi.. and wish there was a gallente or amarr av that worked haha.
Yes, I think we should all wear gallogi suits in a railgun tank, because we need to be using the solution to cloaked scouts, the solution to tanks and the solution to heavies.
Because, that's why.
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:49:00 -
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If you see 80% of the players running in scout suites you know there is imbalance. It's not that you need someone to cover your back. There are full squads only cloak scouts. Scanners ?? What can they do when 3 cloaked scouts attack you?
Not realizing there is a problem with the scout cloak combo is childish. Instead of defending it come up with good ideas to fix the problem or CCP will hit it with the nerf hammer hard. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
528
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:53:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:well this is what I think about the caldari scout: -you need 4 precision enhancers to see a cloaked scout with 2 damps that isnt a gal scout -passive scan awards zero WP -caldari scout with precision enhancers are made out of paper and anyone with eyes and brain will sneeze at you and you die instantly. while you can make a working fit by filling out all slots for passive scanning to get 75m scan range and 14,91 scan precision + use a sniper rifle and sit back all day long. the question is, is that fun or uselful? better dont get hit by a rail rifle, sniper or laser because you die almost instantly. that's fair i guess. it is a big investment- but you and your squad get a constant focused scanner. i mean... do you need warpoints to justify that? and what about putting the scout into a vehicle? these are options that need to be looked at man. i don't think anyones even bothering tho, they just run headfirst into a corner camping shotgun and rage. you don't even need a cloak for half the stuff these people complain about- it's tiring reading it...
If you don't need a cloak why come on here and defend it? Why is your post saying that people should wear a very specific fit not complaining but those saying cloaks need adjustment is? Sounds to me like a qq post disguised as a anti-qq post.
Because, that's why.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
490
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:58:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=sharing#gid=0 a gal logi with a proto scanner has 21 scan radius. focused is 15. a caldari scout has 27, 21.60, 17.85, 15.81, 14.91 for each precision enhancer you add. gallente scout 23.63 uncloaked 17.72 cloaked 1c+1e damp 14.64 uncloaked 1e 14.18 cloaked other races 31.50 uncloaked 23.63 cloaked 4c 14.73 uncloaked 1c+1e 14.64 cloaked if you hate scouts so much, maybe you should consider specializing into one of the above roles... or just keep complaining. whenever i die to a scout or a vehicle i don't come on the forums and complain.. i use my effing eyes or pull out my gal logi.. and wish there was a gallente or amarr av that worked haha. they will just keep complaining.
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1174
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:59:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:you don't have a single cal scout or gal logi in that alliance of yours? nice. We do, quite a few, just not always on all the time. Its also a multi-cultural alliance so there are language barriers between some of the corps
Also I'd rather have a squad of good players who I can trust will watch my back than some random guy with that gear who'll **** off and do his own thing and leave us hanging. Hell I'd take a terrible player who's entertaining than a good player that's boring but whatever
"...and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death."
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CRYPT3C W0LF
SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION
632
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:59:00 -
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Just because there is a large influx of Scouts doesn't deem them OP. Scouts have fought tooth and nail to get where we are now.
You think Scouts are OP now, its laughable.
-Use a mass driver -Get a Proto or even advanced Scanner, (Hardly any new scouts have dampeners on) -Turn up you're brightness/contrast to see cloaked scouts more easily -Use a laser rifle -Bring out a Caldari scanny scout -Use a tank -Be a heavy -Fire your weapon -use your eyes
I Make Youtube Videos!:)
Forum evolution, the cycle must continue...
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Starfire Revo
DUST University Ivy League
208
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:01:00 -
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As a Gal scout who's been very aware of these numbers since 1.8 launched, the so called counters are in a bad place right now. I need to invest in a single enhanced dampener and a cloak to avoid all forms of detection. A single complex puts me below most forms of detection even without the cloak, leaving 3 low slots for me to brick tank while I run around undetected.
The balance between scouts/cloaks and the things that are their potential counters is a bit crazy right now. It wouldn't surprise me if we started to see more and more scouts in matches.
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Chewie Parker
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
125
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:07:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=sharing#gid=0 a gal logi with a proto scanner has 21 scan radius. focused is 15. a caldari scout has 27, 21.60, 17.85, 15.81, 14.91 for each precision enhancer you add. gallente scout 23.63 uncloaked 17.72 cloaked 1c+1e damp 14.64 uncloaked 1e 14.18 cloaked other races 31.50 uncloaked 23.63 cloaked 4c 14.73 uncloaked 1c+1e 14.64 cloaked if you hate scouts so much, maybe you should consider specializing into one of the above roles... or just keep complaining. whenever i die to a scout or a vehicle i don't come on the forums and complain.. i use my effing eyes or pull out my gal logi.. and wish there was a gallente or amarr av that worked haha.
you just told the noobs a logi secret dude :) just let them moan , they'll work it out at some point ,,,, min loggi out . |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7168
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:15:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:If you see 80% of the players running in scout suites you know there is imbalance. I believe that's the continuum fallacy.
Quote:The fallacy appears to demonstrate that two states or conditions cannot be considered distinct (or do not exist at all) because between them there exists a continuum of states. According to the fallacy, differences in quality cannot result from differences in quantity.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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