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Jenza's Pants The Hetairoi 173	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:57:00 - [1] - Quote Min weapons have to hit harder because their suits are generally trash compared to others in their class. deal with it.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9659	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:59:00 - [2] - Quote Jenza's Pants wrote: Min weapons have to hit harder because their suits are generally trash compared to others in their class. deal with it. A poor excuse for having a superior damage model, highest RoF, solid range and accuracy out to 70+m, and benefits from the mechanic that slows you down on impact...... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2075	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:05:00 - [3] - Quote I... sigh You realize you can put any light weapon on any suit, right? Nerdier than thou
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10530	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:06:00 - [4] - Quote These excuses are silly. 1. It might be a passable argument if only Minmatar suits could use Minmatar weapons, but anyone in any suit can use a CR without the weaknesses of the Minmatar suits. 2. For the most part, Minmatar suits are not trash, its just that most people don't know how to take advantage of the Minmatar's speed, and get hung up on the lack of HP. For example, I can fit a militia Minmatar heavy with advanced HMG to be faster than an Amarr assault, have over 1000 HP, and still cost less than 20k. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2236	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:06:00 - [5] - Quote Jenza, what you're saying would only be a viable argument if weapons where locked to their racial suits, well, they aren't. It can very well be a 1700 HP fatty wielding that gun. As probably one of the players currently being the most heavily specced into lightarms (AR-SCR-CR-MD maxed, LR-RR proto+) I think the CR need at least a sligth nerf, 5% blanket damage nerf would be a good start. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:38:00 - [6] - Quote Minmatar suits are fast, flanking suits. It takes a certain type of player to fit it/run it. I'm a slugger like most players, I don't have the patience for fitting a suit that can't take a knock on the chin. I had skilled min assault to proto before 1.8 just on a joke and its actually a fun suit to use. Combine this with the 2 arguably best weapons in the game, and its not the suit its the player. Throw these weapons on slug it out suits and you have a damage potential problem. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12639	Posted - 2014.04.23 06:06:00 - [7] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Jenza, what you're saying -snip- This isn't really Jenza. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 509	Posted - 2014.04.23 06:18:00 - [8] - Quote I still see people are confused about game balance. In my opinion, and it is just that - an opinion, everything should be balanced evenly. By this I mean suits should be balanced regardless of weapons used, the same as weapons should be balanced regardless of the suit they are on. Obviously this game still suffers from balance issues , I think, because of a lack of clear balance between the different suits and weapons. I dont even check the forums as much as I used to and I have not played the actual game in weeks now. I see player numbers are starting to fluctuate again and I fear this time, if fanfest is not the saving grace for the game people hope it will be - DUST will slowly fade away for sure. The thing is - guys go and play all of the other games out there at the minute and tell me that DUST even with all of its problems still doesn't have great potential. Honestly the game STILL has great potential but for the vast majority of players who have tried dust, potential really doesn't cut it any more. Will fanfest bring the changes that this game needs to survive?
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 961	Posted - 2014.04.23 07:00:00 - [9] - Quote They don't hit hard, they hit fast. Support Orbital Spawns
Jenza's Pants The Hetairoi 173	Posted - 2014.04.23 07:02:00 - [10] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: These excuses are silly. 1. It might be a passable argument if only Minmatar suits could use Minmatar weapons, but anyone in any suit can use a CR without the weaknesses of the Minmatar suits. 2. For the most part, Minmatar suits are not trash, its just that most people don't know how to take advantage of the Minmatar's speed, and get hung up on the lack of HP. For example, I can fit a militia Minmatar heavy with advanced HMG to be faster than an Amarr assault, have over 1000 HP, and still cost less than 20k. other suits can fit kincats to be faster than min, with more tank.

HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 727	Posted - 2014.04.23 08:03:00 - [11] - Quote Listen closely/read carefully. There is no game where there isnt a "best weapon". It used to be the AR. Then it was the rail rifle. Now its the combat rifle. Why complain? Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 927	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:33:00 - [12] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Listen closely/read carefully. There is no game where there isnt a "best weapon". It used to be the AR. Then it was the rail rifle. Now its the combat rifle. Why complain? The be honest the AR was never the "best" weapon before 1.7 just the most versatile (probably a bit too versatile) and most common. A LR for instance could eat AR user alive as long as the LR user knew his optimals... Now with 1.7 and the new rifles even most niche weapons get obliterated by the new rifles need range take the RR need a good cqc take the RR or CR need a beafed up AR use ACR.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8895	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:37:00 - [13] - Quote Minmatar suits aren't trash, the operator himself doesn't know how take advantage of their strengths. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2628	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:39:00 - [14] - Quote No, that's no exscuse Many things about CR need changing, however minmatar weapons are hit and run, they have high burst DPS, but frequent reloads, etc level out the DPS Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1340	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:42:00 - [15] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: These excuses are silly. 1. It might be a passable argument if only Minmatar suits could use Minmatar weapons, but anyone in any suit can use a CR without the weaknesses of the Minmatar suits. 2. For the most part, Minmatar suits are not trash, its just that most people don't know how to take advantage of the Minmatar's speed, and get hung up on the lack of HP. For example, I can fit a militia Minmatar heavy with advanced HMG to be faster than an Amarr assault, have over 1000 HP, and still cost less than 20k. this would be ok but the truth is you can fit sprint & stamina mods and every other suits and be as mobile with more EHP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8895	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:45:00 - [16] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: These excuses are silly. 1. It might be a passable argument if only Minmatar suits could use Minmatar weapons, but anyone in any suit can use a CR without the weaknesses of the Minmatar suits. 2. For the most part, Minmatar suits are not trash, its just that most people don't know how to take advantage of the Minmatar's speed, and get hung up on the lack of HP. For example, I can fit a militia Minmatar heavy with advanced HMG to be faster than an Amarr assault, have over 1000 HP, and still cost less than 20k. this would be ok but the truth is you can fit sprint & stamina mods and every other suits and be as mobile with more EHP. Not true. If they fit sprint and stamina mods, that means they will have less eHP. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 544	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:12:00 - [17] - Quote Jenza's Pants wrote: Min weapons have to hit harder because their suits are generally trash compared to others in their class. deal with it. damm you ugly now thats fixed can i haz a trade window?
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 749	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:40:00 - [18] - Quote Min ships are trash and blasters still have higher rof and dps. Myth busted Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*


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