DUST Search - FW Role In DUST 514

John Demonsbane wrote:

COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:

Pubs are a joke because there is no incentive to win. The ISK payout is more or less the same either way and you get your SP regardless. FW is a step between pubs and PC imho. It makes winning/losing more relevant and offers the friendly fire dynamic to make it a bit more tactical than pubs. Also it's where you go for AUR type gear without paying the AUR (aka lower level requirements on gear).

My main issue with it is that it takes way too long but me and my corp mates enjoy the matches when we get in and winning a match is the best feeling cause you know you're making progress.

Greasepalms wrote:

it's for frontline fit people to negate the efforts of guys who actually want to win for their faction.

These are both true statements, good and bad. It's more or less intended to be a higher quality of battle without the investment needed for PC. I take it from the OP's post that it was likely either Caldari or Amarr FW.

I feel your pain. Despite my best efforts, I think I am stuck at level 4, almost 5 standings and people like the PIE core group, better players than I who are even more dedicated to the Empire's cause are not much higher.

(Although in Aero Yassavi's case it's more because he TK's so much. It's like a sickness.

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Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 353	Posted - 2014.04.21 17:18:00 - [1] - Quote What is the Role of FW? Is it meant for New Players or for those who don't do PC. In FW I usually fight players Advance and up(and usually kick with STD Suit and ADV Weapons), but of course there's the odd militia noobs. In rare matches you can be put in a team with a bunch of noobs and the next it's a competitive match(both sides running ADV and up). I don't do PC because I haven't earned Proto, so I resort to FW. So what is the role of FW? P.S I did FW today and came in with our MCC having Quarter Armor. I got 8th place with 1 death and 50 WP, let that sink in for a moment. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 924	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote Pubs are a joke because there is no incentive to win. The ISK payout is more or less the same either way and you get your SP regardless. FW is a step between pubs and PC imho. It makes winning/losing more relevant and offers the friendly fire dynamic to make it a bit more tactical than pubs. Also it's where you go for AUR type gear without paying the AUR (aka lower level requirements on gear). My main issue with it is that it takes way too long but me and my corp mates enjoy the matches when we get in and winning a match is the best feeling cause you know you're making progress. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 564	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:21:00 - [3] - Quote it's for frontline fit people to negate the efforts of guys who actually want to win for their faction.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2678	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:09:00 - [4] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Pubs are a joke because there is no incentive to win. The ISK payout is more or less the same either way and you get your SP regardless. FW is a step between pubs and PC imho. It makes winning/losing more relevant and offers the friendly fire dynamic to make it a bit more tactical than pubs. Also it's where you go for AUR type gear without paying the AUR (aka lower level requirements on gear). My main issue with it is that it takes way too long but me and my corp mates enjoy the matches when we get in and winning a match is the best feeling cause you know you're making progress. Greasepalms wrote: it's for frontline fit people to negate the efforts of guys who actually want to win for their faction. These are both true statements, good and bad. It's more or less intended to be a higher quality of battle without the investment needed for PC. I take it from the OP's post that it was likely either Caldari or Amarr FW. I feel your pain. Despite my best efforts, I think I am stuck at level 4, almost 5 standings and people like the PIE core group, better players than I who are even more dedicated to the Empire's cause are not much higher. (Although in Aero Yassavi's case it's more because he TK's so much. It's like a sickness. ) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 354	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:52:00 - [5] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Pubs are a joke because there is no incentive to win. The ISK payout is more or less the same either way and you get your SP regardless. FW is a step between pubs and PC imho. It makes winning/losing more relevant and offers the friendly fire dynamic to make it a bit more tactical than pubs. Also it's where you go for AUR type gear without paying the AUR (aka lower level requirements on gear). My main issue with it is that it takes way too long but me and my corp mates enjoy the matches when we get in and winning a match is the best feeling cause you know you're making progress. Greasepalms wrote: it's for frontline fit people to negate the efforts of guys who actually want to win for their faction. These are both true statements, good and bad. It's more or less intended to be a higher quality of battle without the investment needed for PC. I take it from the OP's post that it was likely either Caldari or Amarr FW. I feel your pain. Despite my best efforts, I think I am stuck at level 4, almost 5 standings and people like the PIE core group, better players than I who are even more dedicated to the Empire's cause are not much higher. (Although in Aero Yassavi's case it's more because he TK's so much. It's like a sickness. ) Yes I do Amarr FW, my side usually wins but when we lose it's because of noobs. I usually stick to defending the Home base to prevent redlining or an outside point. I rely on the rest of the team to push the center while I draw attention to the outside. But if my team can't push I become outnumbered. (You'd be surprised how well I defend outside points against protos with my STD Commando) Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4498	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:08:00 - [6] - Quote I've come to the conclusion that until the CR is nerfed from its insane OPness, we Amarrians will never gain that much ground because everyone and their mother is playing in Min FW to get LP to go towards their sweet sweet OP CR's. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7056	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:29:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I've come to the conclusion that until the CR is nerfed from its insane OPness, we Amarrians will never gain that much ground because everyone and their mother is playing in Min FW to get LP to go towards their sweet sweet OP CR's. How many Republic Combat Rifles do you see in use again? HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Donwalis Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 35	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:33:00 - [8] - Quote If you nerf the cr you have to need the scrambler too
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4498	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:43:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I've come to the conclusion that until the CR is nerfed from its insane OPness, we Amarrians will never gain that much ground because everyone and their mother is playing in Min FW to get LP to go towards their sweet sweet OP CR's. How many Republic Combat Rifles do you see in use again? Quite a bit actually Atiim, quite a bit. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7056	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:50:00 - [10] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Quite a bit actually Atiim, quite a bit. Perhaps it's because we play on different servers, but I've yet to see a single person use a Republic CR outside of FW, and I highly doubt that's the case considering how there's only 1 Combat Rifle in the LP Store. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4501	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:51:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Quite a bit actually Atiim, quite a bit. Perhaps it's because we play on different servers, but I've yet to see a single person use a Republic CR outside of FW, and I highly doubt that's the case considering how there's only 1 Combat Rifle in the LP Store. See it in doms and skirms all the time broseidon. =^,.,^=
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7056	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:54:00 - [12] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: See it in doms and skirms all the time broseidon. Got Pics? Perhaps we should hit up that G Torq dude and ask him to pull the market data for Republic CRs. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 356	Posted - 2014.04.21 21:04:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: See it in doms and skirms all the time broseidon. Got Pics? Perhaps we should hit up that G Torq dude and ask him to pull the market data for Republic CRs. All we need to do is remove the Slow down effect, and increase the delay of the bursts. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9609	Posted - 2014.04.21 21:24:00 - [14] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: What is the Role of FW? Is it meant for New Players or for those who don't do PC. In FW I usually fight players Advance and up(and usually kick with STD Suit and ADV Weapons), but of course there's the odd militia noobs. In rare matches you can be put in a team with a bunch of noobs and the next it's a competitive match(both sides running ADV and up). I don't do PC because I haven't earned Proto, so I resort to FW. So what is the role of FW? P.S I did FW today and came in with our MCC having Quarter Armor. I got 8th place with 1 death and 50 WP, let that sink in for a moment. It's to fight in a contextual situation in order to fit into an existing conflict within New Eden. I would say it's an inbetween of public matches and PC, depending on your opposition it can be very competitive, you can make use of the EVE Dust link, and over time attempt to shift sovereignty in your favour. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2680	Posted - 2014.04.21 21:24:00 - [15] - Quote Don't forget about the PIE channel if you are not already in it. Organization is critical for the Imperial Guard's Success! (Not this week though, the wait times are too long. Normally I don't care if I cap or not, but gotta grind out that 3x SP, my scan/precision core skills should finally be maxed out by the end of the week!) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 356	Posted - 2014.04.21 21:30:00 - [16] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Don't forget about the PIE channel if you are not already in it. Organization is critical for the Imperial Guard's Success! (Not this week though, the wait times are too long. Normally I don't care if I cap or not, but gotta grind out that 3x SP, my scan/precision core skills should finally be maxed out by the end of the week!) Will join channel once the event is over. My main roles are solo defending outside objectives or driving a LAV with preferably a Logi and Scout in it. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!


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