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Kratek Heshan
United Colonial Empire Army
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:26:00 -
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its just useless even the pro assault dropship heals fast even the tank they can get away fast |
Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
87
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:42:00 -
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should I call a WAaaambulance for you?
Has one of those players who uses a ADS and a armor tank I can tell you swarms are fine now in 1.8 accept for the invisible swarm bug (not rendering all the time) you should try to work has a team with your squad to take down tanks with your swarm launcher or figure out a way to destroy them your self.
I don't even know why I bother.
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Kilo Shells
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:14:00 -
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I think what OP dislikes is multiple reps on tanks and dropships I or two swarm launchers can be pretty inaffective at times. especially since the swarms don't track like they used too.
But as dunce said they do work pretty well with some creativity-teamwork, remotes, proxys...
True Caldari Assault
forget to tell you, I left some remotes on your tank....
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
2073
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:43:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:you should try to work has a team with your squad to take down tanks with your swarm launcher or figure out a way to destroy them your self.
It should not require a team of players to take down a single player. That is the very definition of overpowered.
Forges are a lot more effective right now than swarms. Forges do a lot more damage, and they also give DSes a loving shove that you don't see as much out of a swarm.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:37:00 -
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I kill tanks by my self without calling in tanks to deal with the other tanks, keep in mind that swarm launchers are light weapons and tanks are heavy vehicles so yeah the forge gun is going to be more effective.
If you do not like the results of playing by your self try finding players you work well with or find another game.
edit: In any real life combat situation it takes a team of soldiers to take out vehicles your asking to much.
I don't even know why I bother.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
2075
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:45:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:I kill tanks by my self without calling in tanks to deal with the other tanks, keep in mind that swarm launchers are light weapons and tanks are heavy vehicles so yeah the forge gun is going to be more effective.
Here's the biggest issue with that: Forge guns are effective against both vehicles and infantry, whereas swarm launchers are ONLY effective against vehicles. Additionally, swarms also do less damage. And while forge guns can charge up behind cover, swarms have to lock-on while in line of sight of the tank, so swarms require a lot more vulnerability to said vehicles. In three major ways, swarms are completely inferior to forge guns. It makes it almost always a bad choice to use swarms.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:18:00 -
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I don't get many tank kills with my forge gun and I never use swarm launchers yet I get tank kills.
I don't even know why I bother.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
397
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:34:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls7hOEdNgXE
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
465
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:12:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:edit: In any real life combat situation it takes a team of soldiers or preparation to take out vehicles your asking to much.
In any real life combat situation, it takes more than one person to operate a tank or aircraft. And actually, it only takes one Stinger or TOW missile to take out a plane or tank, respectively. |
Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:23:00 -
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Kratek Heshan wrote:its just useless even the pro assault dropship heals fast even the tank they can get away fast
As Judge R points out in Marlin Kirby's video, swarms have an inherent 45% damage reduction to dropships. That is part of the reason you're having trouble killing dropships with them. I believe, this is partially due to the fact, that a dropship can do little to avoid being locked on by a swarm (other than fly out of its range), whereas it can (attempt to) dodge a forge gunner meters away. This is somewhat needed due to the lock on system that swarms use.
That being said, the only benefit I see for using swarms rather than forges is mobility and perhaps a bit less skill used (you don't have to hit your target, you lock, fire, and forget). You can fit it on a fast light suit, lock, shoot quickly, and dodge shots, whereas movement while using a forge gun is very limited. |
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