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Asha Starwind 813	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:09:00 - [1] - Quote assumed full racial parity has been established Should a fitting penalty be introduced for using differenr race weapons/equip on a suit? e.g. +10% to a CR's fitting cost when equipped on a non-minmatar suit. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2594	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:11:00 - [2] - Quote No but there should be a 5% bonus. Never penalise someone for using something differnt. Reward them for using racial parity. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 394	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:17:00 - [3] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: assumed full racial parity has been established Should a fitting penalty be introduced for using differenr race weapons/equip on a suit? e.g. +10% to a CR's fitting cost when equipped on a non-minmatar suit. No, as this doesn't allow for player preference limited to/by game design. I like the Gallente suits but can't use an AR , I simply find them really difficult to use. I'm far better at using a fully auto scoped weapon but the AR doesn't have one, so I use the RR. I don't see why players should be penalised simply because of ease of weapon playability. IF this was introduced then a cross weapon of all types would also have to be implement to equalise the field. As I said, a fully auto AR with a scope. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1796	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:18:00 - [4] - Quote there should be some encouragement to run a racial weapon suit combo. it would make sense that racial gear is optimised to work in concert with other gear of the same race. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 344	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:23:00 - [5] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No but there should be a 5% bonus. Never penalise someone for using something differnt. Reward them for using racial parity. To OP, I say no. ^read his GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2413	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:24:00 - [6] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No but there should be a 5% bonus. Never penalise someone for using something differnt. Reward them for using racial parity. I agree with the wise monkey.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2596	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:25:00 - [7] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: assumed full racial parity has been established Should a fitting penalty be introduced for using differenr race weapons/equip on a suit? e.g. +10% to a CR's fitting cost when equipped on a non-minmatar suit. No, as this doesn't allow for player preference limited to/by game design. I like the Gallente suits but can't use an AR , I simply find them really difficult to use. I'm far better at using a fully auto scoped weapon but the AR doesn't have one, so I use the RR. I don't see why players should be penalised simply because of ease of weapon playability. IF this was introduced then a cross weapon of all types would also have to be implement to equalise the field. As I said, a fully auto AR with a scope. You mean the Breach AR? Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 394	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:30:00 - [8] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: there should be some encouragement to run a racial weapon suit combo. it would make sense that racial gear is optimised to work in concert with other gear of the same race. There already is, Gallente Commando get a 2% damage per level in Hybrid-blaster (the AR) but this I just can't get to grips with. So I forgo the damage in preference of my weapon of choice. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Asha Starwind 813	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:33:00 - [9] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No but there should be a 5% bonus. Never penalise someone for using something differnt. Reward them for using racial parity. Point taken, edited OP. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2597	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:34:00 - [10] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: knight of 6 wrote: there should be some encouragement to run a racial weapon suit combo. it would make sense that racial gear is optimised to work in concert with other gear of the same race. There already is, Gallente Commando get a 2% damage per level in Hybrid-blaster (the AR) but this I just can't get to grips with. So I forgo the damage in preference of my weapon of choice. Yes but In think the OP meant irrespective of your suit size or level. so equipping a minmatar weapon to any minmatar suit will make it slightly easier to fit, enough to encourage it, but not really enough to penalise you for not doing so. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.

Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 394	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:35:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Heavenly Daughter wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: assumed full racial parity has been established Should a fitting penalty be introduced for using differenr race weapons/equip on a suit? e.g. +10% to a CR's fitting cost when equipped on a non-minmatar suit. No, as this doesn't allow for player preference limited to/by game design. I like the Gallente suits but can't use an AR , I simply find them really difficult to use. I'm far better at using a fully auto scoped weapon but the AR doesn't have one, so I use the RR. I don't see why players should be penalised simply because of ease of weapon playability. IF this was introduced then a cross weapon of all types would also have to be implement to equalise the field. As I said, a fully auto AR with a scope. You mean the Breach AR? Only needs a little more to RoF. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8019	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:37:00 - [12] - Quote Absolutely not. CCP may be the sort of company that throws in things that are out of left field but this is not one of those things that will ever likely happen. Eve Online doesn't have fitting penalties for putting modules/turrets/rigs of one race into a ship of another race. The only penalties that should ever exist are two things: stacking penalties and rig penalties. The suits in Dust already have to deal with a set amount of CPU/PG per suit per tier. Some modules don't fit well anyways if you put them on a class that is NOT appropriate for them. Notice I said "class" and not "race" in that last sentence. This means that you are allowed to use a weapon/module on anything you like but it's preferred to fit those weapons/modules on the class of suits that are tailored specifically for them. Case in point. A cloaking field can be fitted on a logistics suit but since the logi's equipment fitting bonus doesn't apply to cloaks ( if it does give the bonus, it's a bug ) the suit's CPU/PG will be used up to such an extent that you have to sacrifice other modules that better suit the logi. But if you put the cloak on a scout, the scout will benefit from the fitting bonus and have enough room left over to fit modules that compliment it. That's how it should be. Race should not be a factor other than for role playing and FW loyalty point gains. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 87	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:44:00 - [13] - Quote No Because caldari suits are able to use the gallente assault rifle better than gallente suits and gallente suits are better at using the caldari rail than caldari suits. When it comes down to just ammar and minmatar i would say yes, but it isn't. So no. sebastian the huds (insert any weapon) whoever i want Weapon operation 5 in most weapons


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