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IRON PATRIOT 1
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:35:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:You can't claim vehicle superiority when I can keep you both pinned in your redline. In a Maddy with no hardeners. How many damage mods do scrubs need?
My lol at you was genuine.
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These guys did a great job containing your tanks even with it being 2 vs 5 (attorny, thunder, psycho, ken, & ben). I didn't see much of the pinned in redline being as though I spent most of the time outside at our home point and yours. Every where I went I seen their two tanks as well as ads on the field doing what they were hired for.
Imperious even pulled an identical score to yours with more war points so that goes to show who put in the most work. Also @ zatara with the good job at burning our clone pack remark right back at you, we have 338/450 left on that district. We also had lead on mcc wasn't huge lead but a lead at the very least. |
Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2679
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:57:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Killar-12 wrote:[ I agree, I wouldn't hire you either... Said anyone when thinking about Top Men. Yep, then again I at least get things done, you just fight, so go back to your grunt work... I'm a scrub, I try to help those around me... then again I at least defended Zion when you were a member and you were no where to be seen back in early uprising...
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:57:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:You can't claim vehicle superiority when I can keep you both pinned in your redline. In a Maddy with no hardeners. How many damage mods do scrubs need?
My lol at you was genuine.
Image 1Image 2These guys did a great job containing your tanks even with it being 2 vs 5 (attorny, thunder, psycho, ken, & ben). I didn't see much of the pinned in redline being as though I spent most of the time outside at our home point and yours. Every where I went I seen their two tanks as well as ads on the field doing what they were hired for. Imperious even pulled an identical score to yours with more war points so that goes to show who put in the most work. Also @ zatara with the good job at burning our clone pack remark right back at you, we have 338/450 left on that district. We also had lead on mcc wasn't huge lead but a lead at the very least. People like him can't be reasoned with bud but thanks for the respect o7
CEO of PAND3M0N1UM
Alliance: Top Men
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2042
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:10:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:You can't claim vehicle superiority when I can keep you both pinned in your redline. In a Maddy with no hardeners. How many damage mods do scrubs need?
My lol at you was genuine.
Image 1Image 2These guys did a great job containing your tanks even with it being 2 vs 5 (attorny, thunder, psycho, ken, & ben). I didn't see much of the pinned in redline being as though I spent most of the time outside at our home point and yours. Every where I went I seen their two tanks as well as ads on the field doing what they were hired for. Imperious even pulled an identical score to yours with more war points so that goes to show who put in the most work. Also @ zatara with the good job at burning our clone pack remark right back at you, we have 338/450 left on that district. We also had lead on mcc wasn't huge lead but a lead at the very least. Thunder isn't a tanker, I was forced to back out and re-enter the battle because of a glitch that froze my sh!t Thunder took my tank while I was out the fact that he was able to pop one of PANDEMONIUMS tanks when he's not a tanker and their specialists is hilarious. We only brought 3 rails (maybe 4 at a brief point) and since the rails were the only ones doing Tvs.T it was 2 ADS + 2 Tanks in their redline vs. our 3 rails at the beginning when they came out and they got their asses whooped I killed Qusar then after I nearly got imperius mods down he B*tched off with 0/0. On top off that I was speed hacking ours and their HP's taking me out of the tank fight for part of time. Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:15:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:You can't claim vehicle superiority when I can keep you both pinned in your redline. In a Maddy with no hardeners. How many damage mods do scrubs need?
My lol at you was genuine.
Image 1Image 2These guys did a great job containing your tanks even with it being 2 vs 5 (attorny, thunder, psycho, ken, & ben). I didn't see much of the pinned in redline being as though I spent most of the time outside at our home point and yours. Every where I went I seen their two tanks as well as ads on the field doing what they were hired for. Imperious even pulled an identical score to yours with more war points so that goes to show who put in the most work. Also @ zatara with the good job at burning our clone pack remark right back at you, we have 338/450 left on that district. We also had lead on mcc wasn't huge lead but a lead at the very least.
I'm not going to try and break this down for non tankers, because you guys don't understand. I have tried to explain it many times to many foot soldiers, but the concept eludes them.
The simple truth is this: When you are fighting from your redline you have lost the tank fight. Anyone who disputes this is not a tanker. If you think operating from your deployment is winning then no wonder you are where you are and I am where I am.
Calling it 5 v 2 is misleading as well, as Groove was in a tank because Ben DC'd.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:16:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills.
That is because Imperious was "winning" so hard.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:44:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills. That is because Imperious was "winning" so hard. Could we confirm that you abandoned ZTCD as a member in early Uprising?
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:48:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills. That is because Imperious was "winning" so hard. Could we confirm that you abandoned ZTCD as a member in early Uprising?
No you could not. I stayed with Zion through the fail cascade, and then made 3 attempts to keep them back on the map.
I did everything within my power to restore Zion, but sadly some things cannot be.
Further than that, I left Zion in January. How you could try and spin that as early uprising is beyond me. Did you fail basic math as well as basic gungame?
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2042
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:50:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Imperious91 wrote:Just helped Pradox One defend their distract from FA. Vehicle superiority was PAND3M0N1UM plus some hate mail That's why I rolled two of their tanks with Ben's that I grabbed when he got disconnected. No disrespect though, you guys are probably chill but there was no tank superiority. lol you got 2 I only saw you get the 1 as I rejoined the battle that's even more hilarious you got 2 vehicle specialists and you've probably never tanked before.
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2686
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:06:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Killar-12 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills. That is because Imperious was "winning" so hard. Could we confirm that you abandoned ZTCD as a member in early Uprising? No you could not. I stayed with Zion through the fail cascade, and then made 3 attempts to keep them back on the map. I did everything within my power to restore Zion, but sadly some things cannot be. Further than that, I left Zion in January. How you could try and spin that as early uprising is beyond me. Did you fail basic math as well as basic gungame? I failed, but I still did better than everyone but Adapt and Kill on that team... I mean some scrub came in and got second every time Pro Hic came...but was Attourney there, no, just some scrub Gal Logi instead of a Vayu that might actually have helped hold the outside...Also, 7th of may to the 18th of October means early uprising and then some.> http://dustboard.com/global/merc/The_Attorney_General
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
433
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:18:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Killar-12 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills. That is because Imperious was "winning" so hard. Could we confirm that you abandoned ZTCD as a member in early Uprising? No you could not. I stayed with Zion through the fail cascade, and then made 3 attempts to keep them back on the map. I did everything within my power to restore Zion, but sadly some things cannot be. Further than that, I left Zion in January. How you could try and spin that as early uprising is beyond me. Did you fail basic math as well as basic gungame? I failed, but I still did better than everyone but Adapt and Kill on that team... I mean some scrub came in and got second every time Pro Hic came...but was Attourney there, no, just some scrub Gal Logi instead of a Vayu that might actually have helped hold the outside...Also, 7th of may to the 18th of October means early uprising and then some.> http://dustboard.com/global/merc/The_Attorney_General
more than one character, one which didnt leave zion till january, like he said
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IRON PATRIOT 1
Proficiency V.
145
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:25:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:You can't claim vehicle superiority when I can keep you both pinned in your redline. In a Maddy with no hardeners. How many damage mods do scrubs need?
My lol at you was genuine.
Image 1Image 2These guys did a great job containing your tanks even with it being 2 vs 5 (attorny, thunder, psycho, ken, & ben). I didn't see much of the pinned in redline being as though I spent most of the time outside at our home point and yours. Every where I went I seen their two tanks as well as ads on the field doing what they were hired for. Imperious even pulled an identical score to yours with more war points so that goes to show who put in the most work. Also @ zatara with the good job at burning our clone pack remark right back at you, we have 338/450 left on that district. We also had lead on mcc wasn't huge lead but a lead at the very least. Thunder isn't a tanker, I was forced to back out and re-enter the battle because of a glitch that froze my sh!t Thunder took my tank while I was out the fact that he was able to pop one of PANDEMONIUMS tanks when he's not a tanker and their specialists is hilarious. We only brought 3 rails (maybe 4 at a brief point) and since the rails were the only ones doing Tvs.T it was 2 ADS + 2 Tanks in their redline vs. our 3 rails at the beginning when they came out and they got their asses whooped I killed Qusar then after I nearly got imperius mods down he B*tched off with 0/0. On top off that I was speed hacking ours and their HP's taking me out of the tank fight for part of time. Can confirm our pilots went into their redline to get kills.
My mistake 4 vs 2, but like I said they did their job which was keep you guys occupied while we handled the infantry. |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
708
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:48:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:probably never tanked before. Actually, I have more vehicle experience than most people who call themselves tankers. Just so happens my main has 0 vehicle SP and thus no skill bonuses. Regardless, PAND3M0N1UM's "claims" of vehicle superiority are just that "claims".
I can claim I'm the ******* Pope. In all actuality it was that PX had 12-13 guys in the city. You can put 6 relatively okay players on a point and it'll be very hard for someone to push in
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
176
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:58:00 -
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MAN! I just took a great nap *Looks around* ........ Okay look PAND3M0N1UM defines vehicle superiority two ways.
A)We've popped all vehicles and can roam freely with no care in the world
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B)Vehicles can not be popped, but can be contained.
Now (A) usually applies more towards pub and FW matches, because after enough times of getting blown up tankers or ADS tend to quit. However this really doesn't apply to PC because the tanker or pilot tend to not quit. In which case (B) is usually what happens.
Everything PAND3M0N1UM does in match is always planned whether or not it be our basic guidelines we follow or planning we made during the match. Point is any action we take has a reason behind it and many corporations know this about us from either playing with us and or hiring us.
For this match agaisnt FA, PAND3M0N1UM was asked to bring two tankers and one ADS pilot. Now before I continue I feel I need to express the fact that PAND3M0N1UM could care less about the ground forces aka Infantry. When a corporation hires us it under the terms that our only task is to deal with enemy vehicles so that the ground troops dont have too.
To put it plain and simple we don't tell the infantry how to hold the objectives and they don't tell us how to handle enemy vehicles. So win or lose as long as PAND3M0N1UM is dealing with enemy vehicles then we are doing exactly what we got paid to do.
So anyway during this match their looked to be a total of 4 enemy tankers but no less then three. Now at the beginning of every match we send our ADS to do observation so we know how many tanks thier are and the location. After that we keep the ADS pilot floating and periodical he will do observation runs.
Now going off our guidelines for vehicle superiority we saw that (A) could not be accomplished because FA tankers don't quit, but (B) could be accomplished because FA tankers are stubborn and like the assume they are the best .
Now they said that they kept our vehicles in the red line, "because we be scrubs derp" but PAND3M0N1UM says we kept the enemy tankers contained at the back road closest to C point. Then used our ADS pilot cause pandemonium(see what I did there) between enemy tankers when possible while also spotting out any tankers attempting to break off to C to disrupt infantry in which case we would pop them.
Either way one side says this and the other says that. To me it doesn't matter because the corporation that hired us was more then satisfied with our performance and as a mercenary vehicle corp the buyers opinion is the one that matters. Any who GG FA it was fun and hope to see y'all in more PC matches
CEO of PAND3M0N1UM
Alliance: Top Men
Public Comm Channel: PAND3M0N1UM(Pub)
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The Attorney General
2665
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:17:00 -
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Cool story bro.
Post-hoc revision is a shameful thing.
Enjoy being a redliner, you have plenty of amateur tankers to keep you company.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
176
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:22:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Cool story bro.
Post-hoc revision is a shameful thing.
Enjoy being a redliner, you have plenty of amateur tankers to keep you company. OK THANKS! oh and I'll leave this here for you bro http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
CEO of PAND3M0N1UM
Alliance: Top Men
Public Comm Channel: PAND3M0N1UM(Pub)
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SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:41:00 -
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Tankers don't win battles in PC! The boots on the ground win the battles. tanks and drop ships are there to harass teams that don't have them. Many PC have been won by elite teams with one or less tanks.
Having too many vehicles on your side puts your foot soldiers at a disadvantage. The true worth of having tanks is so the other team will be woRried and bring out AV essentially making their team down a man.
Yes a decent tanker left untouched can effectively dirpt a letter for a short time other than that tankers really have little effect on the outcome of the game.
That's why it so funny to see tankers act like they are so important in PC. Lulz
Name one tanker who could sway a PC battle?
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
649
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:11:00 -
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Imperious91 wrote:Now at the beginning of every match we send our ADS to do observation so we know how many tanks thier are and the location. After that we keep the ADS pilot floating and periodical he will do observation runs. Now going off our guidelines for vehicle superiority we saw that (A) could not be accomplished because FA tankers don't quit, but (B) could be accomplished because FA tankers are stubborn and like the assume they are the best .
When tanks send me to gather intel on enemy tanks... those red tanks usually get popped by the time blue tanks get there....
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:53:00 -
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would cookies make everyone feel better??
CEO of PAND3M0N1UM
Alliance: Top Men
Public Comm Channel: PAND3M0N1UM(Pub)
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2046
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:47:00 -
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Sir Snugglz wrote:Imperious91 wrote:Now at the beginning of every match we send our ADS to do observation so we know how many tanks thier are and the location. After that we keep the ADS pilot floating and periodical he will do observation runs. Now going off our guidelines for vehicle superiority we saw that (A) could not be accomplished because FA tankers don't quit, but (B) could be accomplished because FA tankers are stubborn and like the assume they are the best . When tanks send me to gather intel on enemy tanks... those red tanks usually get popped by the time blue tanks get there.... True story
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
180
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:46:00 -
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Good PC match against AE.
CEO of PAND3M0N1UM
Alliance: Top Men
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