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Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 191	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:21:00 - [1] - Quote I have been sniping at proto level for at least seven months now, and I can now say snipers are screwed now, but here is an idea to benefit those who skilled all the way into snipers while leaving those at level one and two in sniper operation almost untouched. Okay so first off I'll cover the damage side of sniper rifles(without damage modifiers): Sniper rifle name - Damage per shot Proto Charge Sniper - 321 Ishukone Sniper - 229 Kaalakiota Tactical Sniper - 195 Thale Sniper - 355 Advanced NT-511 Sniper - 219 C15 Tactical Sniper - 186 Basic Sniper - 209 Tactical Sniper - 177 Damage side of Sniper rifles with triple damage mods respective to their tier: Sniper rifle name - Damage per shot Proto - 3 Complex damage mods Charge Sniper - 362 Ishukone Sniper - 259 Kaalakiota Tactical Sniper - 220 Thale Sniper - 400 Advanced - 3 Enhanced damage mods NT-511 Sniper - 241 C15 Tactical Sniper - 205 Basic - 3 Basic damage mods Sniper - 224 Tactical Sniper - 190 Okay, so I have an idea to make sniper rifles do more damage without screwing the whole balance of the game. Rather than having the Sniper Operation skill do nothing except unlocking the sniper rifles make it so the 'Sniper Rifle Operation' skill gives you 2% to sniper rifle damage per level. With this skill active you would get these numbers(w/ triple damage mods to its respective tier and my proposed skill bonus): Sniper rifle name - damage per shot Proto - 10% Damage bonus from Skill - 1.1277 Damage bonus from triple complex damage mods Charge Sniper - 398 Ishukone Sniper - 284 Kaalakiota Tactical Sniper - 241 Thale Sniper - 440 Advanced - 6% Damage bonus from Skill - 1.100 Damage bonus from triple enhanced damage mods NT-511 Sniper - 255 C15 Tactical Sniper - 216 Basic - 2% Damage bonus from Skill - 1.073 Damage bonus from triple basic damage mods Sniper - 228 Tactical Sniper - 193 As you can see these numbers have more damage while not breaking the game. Thoughts? I'm a logi now! :D
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6990	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:26:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed. inb4 Scopeophobia Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Maitue Mae 0uter.Heaven Academy 59	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:31:00 - [3] - Quote Dude, this would be awesome. It would help my self hurting style of Battle marskman using the Tac Snipe on the field. Caldari Imigrant. I fight for the State. MAG Vet: S.V.E.R - Paratrooper
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 960	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:49:00 - [4] - Quote If not for the redline I'd agree. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 577	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:56:00 - [5] - Quote I can understand the notion but , why not just snipe from a Commando suit ??? I just don't get the three complex damage mod stacking , it's like redlining the enemy in a match but you have to throw orbital's at them non the less to prove your point . Just not a fan of " overkill " . I don't like the idea ... but you know anything that increases damage and people come running from all over in agreement . Just don't get mad when the community asks for a nerf from the over saturation of snipers that this will develop if this idea comes to fruition . +1 for creativity . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 577	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:57:00 - [6] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: If not for the redline I'd agree. Even more so . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 259	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:57:00 - [7] - Quote Yes, sniper rifles are weak at the moment, even a thale rarely instakill with headshots.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2380	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:46:00 - [8] - Quote Operation reduces scope sway. Also, operation should never give damage bonuses. Slightly increase damage for all rifles and give a 110% damage bonus for headshots instead of the measly 70%
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2762	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:50:00 - [9] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Yes, sniper rifles are weak at the moment, even a thale rarely instakill with headshots. Which is a good thing. Sniping in DUST doesn't get you insta kills like it does in, say, BF, but sniping in DUST is pretty low-risk. Shotguns don't insta, I don't see why SR should. ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2380	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:54:00 - [10] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Yes, sniper rifles are weak at the moment, even a thale rarely instakill with headshots. Which is a good thing. Sniping in DUST doesn't get you insta kills like it does in, say, BF, but sniping in DUST is pretty low-risk. Shotguns don't insta, I don't see why SR should. Headshots should be rewarded plenty when it comes to snipers.

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7000	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:12:00 - [11] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Which is a good thing. Sniping in DUST doesn't get you insta kills like it does in, say, BF, but sniping in DUST is pretty low-risk. Shotguns don't insta, I don't see why SR should. If I get a headshot with a reticule bigger than the target, while having an officer weapon, it should die in one hit. SCRs can do this. so why shouldn't an officer weapon with a 5 round clip and extreme kick be able to? Shotguns do and can insta-kill if you run enough Damage Modifiers. Atiim wrote: I'm failing to see how Sniping is low-risk, when you are vunerable to: Scouts Assault Dropships Heavies w/LAVs and/or Transport Dropships Infantry w/Active Scanner(s) Anyone inside CQC Can somebody please explain this notion to me? Or do people hate Snipers simply because killing one requires them to actually search for one? Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2408	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:23:00 - [12] - Quote snipers don't have a place in dust right now nor should they. They break the risk vs reward factor. Also as long as there is a redline you can camp from or bowl maps where you can cover large area snipers are cheap trash. I used to run a sniper alt but I did nothing for my team but pad my stats. There is a reason why you dont see snipers in PC matches because no one is ***** enough to stoop that low. Also snipers need to give up on the idea that they should be able to OHK or fast double tap reds from a mile away. /rant Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
MINA Longstrike 535	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:34:00 - [13] - Quote Instead of playing with sniper rifle skill values or rifle dmg numbers, why not just tweak the dmg profiles for head shots and dmg to armor, its a simpler fix that rewards more skilled users. There's also the problem of incredibly twitchy targets, rendering issues and lack of viability on the battlefield which means the only safe place is in the redline. Get rid of the scope sway, give us variable zooms, and shorten optimal while increasing hipfire viability Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 138	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:36:00 - [14] - Quote Free Beers wrote: snipers don't have a place in dust right now nor should they. They break the risk vs reward factor. Also as long as there is a redline you can camp from or bowl maps where you can cover large area snipers are cheap trash. I used to run a sniper alt but I did nothing for my team but pad my stats. There is a reason why you dont see snipers in PC matches because no one is ***** enough to stoop that low. Also snipers need to give up on the idea that they should be able to OHK or fast double tap reds from a mile away. /rant We arent asking for OHK, we are asking that the sniper rifle be able to actually kill something other than militia without using half our ammo to do so -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 610	Posted - 2014.04.20 06:15:00 - [15] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: I have been sniping at proto level for at least seven months now, and I can now say snipers are screwed now, but here is an idea to benefit those who skilled all the way into snipers while leaving those at level one and two in sniper operation almost untouched. ... Thoughts? If you haven't noticed, the player base has become increasingly concerned with the new player experience. I'm not fond of widening the power gap between those with SP and those with very little SP. Medium frame EHP is not medium
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8601	Posted - 2014.04.20 07:00:00 - [16] - Quote Here are the requirements for a sniper buff - FIX THE REDLINE When that happens, I will agree to a 1.5x damage increase. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:17:00 - [17] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I can understand the notion but , why not just snipe from a Commando suit ??? Cause as a Calmando you stand out like a sore thumb and you sacrifice speed. The most effective snipers are mobile and remain undetected. And they get out of the redline.
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4822	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:20:00 - [18] - Quote I like the current stability increase with sniper rifle operation. It's quite useful if you aren't the useless kind of sniper. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2169	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:41:00 - [19] - Quote Lag and pisspoor rendering in this game are far more devastating to the weapon than damage or other innate stats of the guns. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2809	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:08:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Which is a good thing. Sniping in DUST doesn't get you insta kills like it does in, say, BF, but sniping in DUST is pretty low-risk. Shotguns don't insta, I don't see why SR should. If I get a headshot with a reticule bigger than the target, while having an officer weapon, it should die in one hit. SCRs can do this. so why shouldn't an officer weapon with a 5 round clip and extreme kick be able to? Shotguns do and can insta-kill if you run enough Damage Modifiers. Atiim wrote: I'm failing to see how Sniping is low-risk, when you are vunerable to: Scouts Assault Dropships Heavies w/ LAVs and/or Transport Dropships Infantry w/Active Scanner(s) Anyone inside CQC Can somebody please explain this notion to me? Or do people hate Snipers simply because killing one requires them to actually search for one? In this thread people have expressed a desire to oneshot bricked proto mediums. There is no 'searching' for someone who's already killed you. To paraphrase something you've said about tanks in the past all of those counters (excepting the vehicular ones) are vulnerable to everything else on the battlefield. (I'm not sure whether that negates this argument, or your previous arguments, but whatever). And no shotgun oneshots my proto medium. Nor should it. Not until it actually takes skill to make those shots - point the reticle in their general direction and wait until it turns red does not skilful play make. Oh - also rendering, making a dampened sniper near unfindable except by an experienced sniper of your own. ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.



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