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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:24:00 -
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Because now we have only one semi-decent method to kill squads of sentinels, which are REs. Grenade spam is still a problem for anyone with a nanohive, militia nades are worthless, AV nades are worthless, Flux is only good for mopping up equipment spam. The Forge Gun (breach aside) no longer does enough damage to OHK a sentinel, which is severely broken.
I was in a match on the map with the underground supply depot, and the enemy team had two entire squads of sentinels with HMGs, almost all of them using Steelmine Boundless or regular Boundless HMGs. There was literally no counter. They always moved in groups of two, there were 12 of them, and REs couldn't kill them in one go. Our own squad using HMGs couldn't break through because they had spammed the supply depot so much that they could come back anywhere in the complex within 4 seconds. When I tried to use a shotgun, the lag was so miserable only half to a quarter of my damage would apply. So either rebuff grenades and FGs, or severely dampen the fitting power on Sentinels, or just take away their bonus to explosive damage resistance.
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2905
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:27:00 -
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It's something about Aur weapons that make people seem like scrubs to me.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2549
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:46:00 -
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Inb4 lock for title
For the Federation!
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OmniMerc
50
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:49:00 -
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So you can no longer use op 1hk against heavies?
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:52:00 -
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Agreed. Also, how did they break forge guns in the first place?
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:54:00 -
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To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
2013
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:54:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:It's something about Aur weapons that make people seem like scrubs to me.
When you're not on the PC gravy train, nothing is more enraging than someone gaining that proto advantage over you without risking any ISK. It just circumvents what was clearly meant to be a balancing factor, the ISK cost, using real money. It's not quite pay-to-win, but it still feels... dirty.
Nerdier than thou
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OmniMerc
50
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
Nanohives, and heavies
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12411
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:56:00 -
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OmniMerc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground? Nanohives, and heavies You need heavies to kill heavies easy.
Ah, the classic 'counter it with more of itself'.
Balance!
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
576
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:57:00 -
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So now you want to kill a role because of internal issue's ???
You want to kill the role of Sentinel's because you can't kill them the way that " you want or should " be able to ???
You people need to leave this game already .
Nerf scouts
Nerf tanks
Nerf Sentinel's
Nerf the cloak
Nerf the RR
Nerf the CR ( now this might need it )
Nerf a role because they kill you or it doesn't die like " you think " it should .
This isn't even funny and it's becoming to not be any fun anymore .
Don't like it then leave already , so the rest of us can stop hearing and seeing the incessant whining .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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OmniMerc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:00:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:OmniMerc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground? Nanohives, and heavies You need heavies to kill heavies easy. Ah, the classic 'counter it with more of itself'. Balance!
Thats the joke... |
Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
You're going to laught, but...plasma cannons?
Not actually trolling with this. Kind of.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
2014
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
One does not simply "counter" a heavy. Haven't you heard? Bigger is better.
Nerdier than thou
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12412
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:05:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground? You're going to laught, but...plasma cannons? Not actually trolling with this. Kind of.
I applaud your creativity but a properly fit heavy can tank a plasma cannon shot. As it'll be another 4-5 seconds before you can fire again, almost any other weapon would be more effective.
Also, they're a little more difficult to use under pressure than an HMG.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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OmniMerc
50
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:07:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground? One does not simply "counter" a heavy. Haven't you heard? Bigger is better.
Thats what she said
(Exept some girls on dust are.........umm.... how do I say this....g3y) |
Zetsumi Ravencroft
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
Orbitals, cloaked scouts, Flux + MD (Hey, even with splash resistance, that s**t still freaking hurts), taking out the logis we obviously need in order to actually repair any armor damage we take, supportive sniper fire, wearing down our position by taking out our equipment, attacking the other objectives if you can, vehicles if it is an objective a dropship or tank can shoot at...
So... yeah... plenty of options.
M.A.G - RAVEN Vet
"I am not a man, I AM ARMOR WEARING ARMOR WITH A GUN!" - Zetsumi Ravencroft, when using a Sentinel
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:15:00 -
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*makes a mental note to refit a Proto Breach Forge Gun and save it as "The Dildo"*
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground?
What about the converse statement? To those who would defend Light Weapons how do you counter Light Weapon Spam on open ground that doesn't have any cover (which is the majority of maps)?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:17:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:*makes a mental note to refit a Proto Breach Forge Gun and save it as "The Dildo"*Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:To those who would defend the heavy: I'm a little curious - how do you counter heavy spam in an objective based gamemode if the objective isn't basically flat, open ground? What about the converse statement? To those who would defend Light Weapons how do you counter Light Weapon Spam on open ground that doesn't have any cover (which is the majority of maps)?
Light weapons are the broadest category you could possibly have chosen in Dust.
Specify further and I will happily answer (unless you suggest the combat rifle and/or rail rifle, to which the answer is nothing).
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2580
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:18:00 -
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My little bro suggested a rather funny idea, if a heavy reaches 1700 EHP (requires severly tanking a gallante with all but 1 plate, or an Amarr fully bricked) swarm launchers should identify them as vehicles. Since Swarm Launchers are actually rather inaccurate against smaller targets, it wouldn't be overpowered.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Jillic
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
51
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:31:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:My little bro suggested a rather funny idea, if a heavy reaches 1700 EHP (requires severly tanking a gallante with all but 1 plate, or an Amarr fully bricked) swarm launchers should identify them as vehicles. Since Swarm Launchers are actually rather inaccurate against smaller targets, it wouldn't be overpowered.
Please present this like to your little brother.
Caldari Girls Do It Better.
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