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Atiim wrote:

I have a better idea.

First, increase the WP required for a Warbarge Strike. These things should be used as "game changers" as opposed to a win button used to exacerbate stomping. The requirements for one are 2500WP simply because squads used to only have 4 people, and there weren't nearly as many ways to earn WP as we have now. Something that can wipe out the entire enemy team should never be this easy.

I do agree with removing the ability to gain WP earned from the Warbarge. The average strike gets about 10 kills, which leads to about 500WP. If you have the squad members repair the leader that squad can earn up to 2250WP from the Guardian action, and when you have everyone scan the area before dropping the Warbarge, the squad can earn 750WP from Intel Kill Assists.

That alone is 3575WP, which can grant a squad yet another Warbarge Strike and still leave them with a spare 1075WP (that's half of the WP required for another Warbarge Strike mind you).

However, I do believe there should be a small reward for using the Warbarge Strike, as you are still contributing to the team by using one. I think 100-150WP for Warbarge Deployment would seem fair.

Atiim wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

^this, I was going to go do the math but then it was already done for me.

In a decent dom match I can earn an OB solo, without squad orders or using anything resembling teamwork. In a great game, I can earn two solo. If that doesn't demonstrate that it's too low, I don't know what does.

Increase it to 5k WP minimum, I'd be happier with 7.5k. OB kills should not reward WP, that's like cashing in your chips and getting bonus chips just for cashing in.

I'd say 7200 WP would be the best.

That way every member of the squad would have to make at least 1200 WP to get one.

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General John Ripper 20179	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:06:00 - [1] - Quote Orbitals are supposed to be a reward for reaching x amount of points. However this reward can also give you most of the points you need for a second orbital. Logi -> scan field for points Logi -> repping squad leader for points Squad leader -> gets a dozen kills. Halfway to a second orbital seconds after dropping your first. Now I ask you the community. is this fair? Do you like how this works or would you like it to be changed? Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed. Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion League of Infamy 578	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:18:00 - [2] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Orbitals are supposed to be a reward for reaching x amount of points. However this reward can also give you most of the points you need for a second orbital. Logi -> scan field for points Logi -> repping squad leader for points Squad leader -> gets a dozen kills. Halfway to a second orbital seconds after dropping your first. Now I ask you the community. is this fair? Do you like how this works or would you like it to be changed? As a logi, i love those sweet scan/guardian points from orbitals. I would never ask for it to be changed. That being said, it is kinda broken Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2668	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:19:00 - [3] - Quote It's a valid point. I can make a good argument for points for the kills and points for the scan, as the scan can be very helpful, but yeah, the guardian points for an OB are tough to justify. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 329	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:21:00 - [4] - Quote What if you get half the points you would normally get from using an Orbital Strike. A kill would be 25 instead of 50. You'd still get points, but not so much to boost you to a second Orbital. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 314	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:35:00 - [5] - Quote Orbitals should not award any warpoints. They are an insanely powerful tactical ability, that's reward enough. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 934	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:11:00 - [6] - Quote Nope Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6860	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:18:00 - [7] - Quote My thoughts on Warbarge Strikes from an old thread: Atiim wrote: I have a better idea. First, increase the WP required for a Warbarge Strike. These things should be used as "game changers" as opposed to a win button used to exacerbate stomping. The requirements for one are 2500WP simply because squads used to only have 4 people, and there weren't nearly as many ways to earn WP as we have now. Something that can wipe out the entire enemy team should never be this easy. I do agree with removing the ability to gain WP earned from the Warbarge. The average strike gets about 10 kills, which leads to about 500WP. If you have the squad members repair the leader that squad can earn up to 2250WP from the Guardian action, and when you have everyone scan the area before dropping the Warbarge, the squad can earn 750WP from Intel Kill Assists. That alone is 3575WP, which can grant a squad yet another Warbarge Strike and still leave them with a spare 1075WP (that's half of the WP required for another Warbarge Strike mind you). However, I do believe there should be a small reward for using the Warbarge Strike, as you are still contributing to the team by using one. I think 100-150WP for Warbarge Deployment would seem fair. Atiim wrote: Awry Barux wrote: ^this, I was going to go do the math but then it was already done for me. In a decent dom match I can earn an OB solo, without squad orders or using anything resembling teamwork. In a great game, I can earn two solo. If that doesn't demonstrate that it's too low, I don't know what does. Increase it to 5k WP minimum, I'd be happier with 7.5k. OB kills should not reward WP, that's like cashing in your chips and getting bonus chips just for cashing in. I'd say 7200 WP would be the best. That way every member of the squad would have to make at least 1200 WP to get one. -HAND
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 274	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:54:00 - [8] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Orbitals are supposed to be a reward for reaching x amount of points. However this reward can also give you most of the points you need for a second orbital. Logi -> scan field for points Logi -> repping squad leader for points Squad leader -> gets a dozen kills. Halfway to a second orbital seconds after dropping your first. Now I ask you the community. is this fair? Do you like how this works or would you like it to be changed? And if the SLeader jump in to Dropship full of people, everyone in will get assist kills for that orbital. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.


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