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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 10:46:00 -
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Mass driver or assault mass driver? Splash I mean not counting direct hits
Which one would you use most?
Does prof make a difference for splash?
Would you mind making a vid comparison?
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2014.04.18 10:47:00 -
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If I remember correctly, all damage increases also affect weapon splash. This includes the Commando bonuses, damage mods, and prof.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 10:48:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:If I remember correctly, all damage increases also affect weapon splash. This includes the Commando bonuses, damage mods, and prof.
I know
No commando or damage mids btw
Prof 4 btw
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:00:00 -
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regular mass driver does more DPS.
the point of the assault mass driver is the huge AOE splash and higher projectile speed. you can fire it at longer ranges and weaken groups of enemies with it, sort of artillery. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:02:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:regular mass driver does more DPS.
the point of the assault mass driver is the huge AOE splash and higher projectile speed. you can fire it at longer ranges and weaken groups of enemies with it, sort of artillery.
Oh ok then, but is there a vid too? Because I want to see how much more
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:17:00 -
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Yes, its me again.
I will just say that use the Mass Driver if you want to kill and use the assault mass driver to **** people off.
You have to be far away when you use the assault mass driver because of the huge blast radius.
As for me, I run the regular ones most of the times, but I switch to the assault version every now and then when I stick with heavies, you get a lot of assists with it. Once I got 50+ assists in a game with the Boundless AMD.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:22:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Yes, its me again.
I will just say that use the Mass Driver if you want to kill and use the assault mass driver to **** people off.
You have to be far away when you use the assault mass driver because of the huge blast radius.
As for me, I run the regular ones most of the times, but I switch to the assault version every now and then when I stick with heavies, you get a lot of assists with it. Once I got 50+ assists in a game with the Boundless AMD.
You would think an ASSAULT weapon would have more dps...
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:45:00 -
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Combat rifle.....
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:55:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Combat rifle.....
Yea I know, the acr is op because I melts 629 shield cal sents faster than a hmg, or as fast
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:58:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Combat rifle..... Yea I know, the acr is op because I melts 629 shield cal sents faster than a hmg, or as fast
Haha yes
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:32:00 -
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Mass driver kills single targets faster.
Assault mass driver is good for support, because it kills groups faster.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:54:00 -
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This is the first build where I actually think the AMD is better than the reagular one. But you have to get the timing right, if you can't exploit the relatively high ROF then its pointless.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:57:00 -
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The Assault Mass Driver is much more effective for long distance overwatch, DoA, cloaked scouts, and large groups. I actually find it to be a slightly more effective killer, especially the Boundless, mostly due to the huge blast radius. Also, although you said not to take direct hits into account, the assault is much more likely to get direct hits due to the fire rate. This also gives you much more freedom of movement when firing, because each round does not need to be aimed as carefully.
The Mass Driver is better for shorter ranges and heavily armored targets. It can kill a bit faster than the Assault variant, but placement is much more important, and ammo is more of a concern. The standard MD is the way to go when you need something that can win a firefight.
The Breach Mass driver has its uses, it can be effective AV, but it is terrible against infantry. It should be used only if you know you will not have to deal with infantry and that any vehicles you deal with will have their shields already taken care of. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:23:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:This is the first build where I actually think the AMD is better than the reagular one. But you have to get the timing right, if you can't exploit the relatively high ROF then its pointless.
I have it right, but it should have 105 damage at proto, or 108, waaay to ineffective vs shields, and I only have 1 hive and no cpu left, so fluxes are gone.
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:20:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yes, its me again.
I will just say that use the Mass Driver if you want to kill and use the assault mass driver to **** people off.
You have to be far away when you use the assault mass driver because of the huge blast radius.
As for me, I run the regular ones most of the times, but I switch to the assault version every now and then when I stick with heavies, you get a lot of assists with it. Once I got 50+ assists in a game with the Boundless AMD. You would think an ASSAULT weapon would have more dps...
Not necessary, at least in dust, just like the Assault HMG which has more range and less damage.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:25:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KingBabar wrote:This is the first build where I actually think the AMD is better than the reagular one. But you have to get the timing right, if you can't exploit the relatively high ROF then its pointless. I have it right, but it should have 105 damage at proto, or 108, waaay to ineffective vs shields, and I only have 1 hive and no cpu left, so fluxes are gone.
Thats somewhat true, I'd like to hear your entire fitting to make a statement.
If posssible, reducing an enh plate for a basic gives you enough room fo the nades and you only lose 27.5 HP and get a slightly faster suit.
In any cas, not having the Gauged proto hive on a MD fit is a big no no for me. Are you using the proto AMD on a non proto suit perhaps?
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1193
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:40:00 -
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well i prefer my AMD rather than the MD, the reason behind it besides the increased ROF is the ammo count, on default (not including skills) the MD gets 12 ammo in reserve and 6 in the chamber whereas the AMD gets 19 in reserve and 8 in the chamber. and the increased splash dmg area for the AMDis bigger than the MD so if someone is in cover i'd hit them much more easier.
MD shots needs to be precise otherwise you waste that shot and since its ROF is slow and at only 18 ammo in total you best make sure your rounds hit. the AMD is good for those long range support against groups of enemies or weakened enemies. MD is good for those tougher enemies but as i've said its only good IF your rounds hit.
as for my fittings, for fun i run my commando suit with both MD & AMD or if i feel like being annoying i have two AMD's equipped and thats a lot of explosions happening around the enemies 
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OmniMerc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:50:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KingBabar wrote:This is the first build where I actually think the AMD is better than the reagular one. But you have to get the timing right, if you can't exploit the relatively high ROF then its pointless. I have it right, but it should have 105 damage at proto, or 108, waaay to ineffective vs shields, and I only have 1 hive and no cpu left, so fluxes are gone. Thats somewhat true, I'd like to hear your entire fitting to make a statement. If posssible, reducing an enh plate for a basic gives you enough room fo the nades and you only lose 27.5 HP and get a slightly faster suit. In any cas, not having the Gauged proto hive on a MD fit is a big no no for me. Are you using the proto AMD on a non proto suit perhaps?
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Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:59:00 -
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Regular md is better in all cases.
At first you'll think the assault mass driver is better against groups or at long range or taking down scouts.
Then you end up getting good with it and hitting at very long ranges easily anyways.
At that point there is literally no reason to use the assault anymore, as the assault just doesn't do enough damage to kill, and often not even enough damage to make targets scared, but the real MD does both.
Seriously, put the assault version away. Get good with the regular and you'll never use the assault again.
Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
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OmniMerc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:06:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Regular md is better in all cases.
At first you'll think the assault mass driver is better against groups or at long range or taking down scouts.
Then you end up getting good with it and hitting at very long ranges easily anyways.
At that point there is literally no reason to use the assault anymore, as the assault just doesn't do enough damage to kill, and often not even enough damage to make targets scared, but the real MD does both.
Seriously, put the assault version away. Get good with the regular and you'll never use the assault again.
Actually with prof 4 it kills pretty damm fast if they dont have much shields.
Still needs a 10 or 14 damage buff though. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:13:00 -
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I prefer the Assault. But then I get mail saying I have no gungame. I usually start taking them out with sidearm (or CR if I'm in my Minando) and use the AMD to finish them off when they take cover.
If I want to kill people outright with just the MD then the standard is better. More damaging to shields then usually 1 more direct shot to take out most mid frames. Good punch and RoF makes it more forgiving in direct confrontations. Overall the standard is better all around.
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OmniMerc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:20:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:I prefer the Assault. But then I get mail saying I have no gungame. I usually start taking them out with sidearm (or CR if I'm in my Minando) and use the AMD to finish them off when they take cover.
If I want to kill people outright with just the MD then the standard is better. More damaging to shields then usually 1 more direct shot to take out most mid frames. Good punch and RoF makes it more forgiving in direct confrontations. Overall the standard is better all around.
So your telling me the regular has more dos to armor? |
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