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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:08:00 -
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so im thinking that since we are in a way keeping new players out and not many people enjoy being proto stopmed if we could have something similar to what eve has...
think of high sec, low sec, and null sec.
our public contracts could be "High sec" and only militia and Standard suits are allowed in those games and only militia and std vehicles and mods.
faction warefare can be our "null sec" where we can bring in militia to ADV gear but not proto suits or weapons but we can have proto mods, and vehicles can only bring up to ADV mods.
and then PC/Corp battles, "0.0/null sec", we can bring in anything of any tier sonce new players will least likely be in those types of matches
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:10:00 -
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Surprised it wasn't buff flaylock
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Vordred Knight
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:16:00 -
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shouldn't FW be lowsec?
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Joseph Ridgeson
warravens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:18:00 -
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Has been tossed about since people first got Prototype.
The problem is that you have entire playstyles that become completely pointless if you limit to Standard. Swarm Launchers and Shield Extenders have the sharpest scaling ever. Swarms go 25% and 50% better for each jump and Shield Modules go 50% and 300%. So Swarms and Shield Extenders are extremely handicapped for only being basic. A single Prototype Swarm Launcher is a threat to a tank; a single Militia Swarmer is almost a non-threat. Caldari Logistics only get a third equipment at Advanced, so being a 'logistical support' if you are Caldari would better off done by a Scout.
It is a paradox. The game will not get more people sticking with the game until there is better matchmaking but until there is more people having true segregation isn't possible because you have multiple miniscule ponds rather than one modest pond. Basically, the game needs to be playable on the PC and PS4 to get double or triple the player base so they can segregate properly. Irony.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:21:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:so im thinking that since we are in a way keeping new players out and not many people enjoy being proto stopmed if we could have something similar to what eve has...
think of high sec, low sec, and null sec.
our public contracts could be "High sec" and only militia and Standard suits are allowed in those games and only militia and std vehicles and mods.
faction warefare can be our "null sec" where we can bring in militia to ADV gear but not proto suits or weapons but we can have proto mods, and vehicles can only bring up to ADV mods.
and then PC/Corp battles, "0.0/null sec", we can bring in anything of any tier sonce new players will least likely be in those types of matches
You're on the right track but you need to compliment it along the lines of this:
There will be two tiers, one with every kind of suit, and the other where only adv. and std/mlt are allowed. These two tiers will also have an option for vehicles prohibition or not.
This quickly fixes both vehicle stomping AND proto stomping by allowing the player to choose where he or she wants to fight.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Principus Shmoof Triariian
Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services
Armed-n-Hammered
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:22:00 -
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I think you mean facwar is the Low Sec? |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
671
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:24:00 -
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What else would we do with our ISK? There's no ISK sink but FW but there's very few items worth it for doing it.
Just reminding you that it's not the people's fault who do have money, it's CCP's for not babbying new players.
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Surprised it wasn't buff flaylock
Minmatards be Minmatards. There's a hidden buff flaylock in there.
Running at 10.6 m/s ak.0
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1013
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:24:00 -
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Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote:I think you mean facwar is the Low Sec?
i already fixed that
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jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:32:00 -
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There are no restrictions of what gear you can use in the Eve universe. ISK is managing all of that. You are blaming the side effects of a broken game mode ( PC ) and try to fix a other game mode.
pubs are low ISK payout contracts. Most of the time your minus when you die with proto.
FW is a medium payout but ppl don't realize it because they payout is in LP ( LP market is cheaper when you finally have a good standing )
PC is the only contract type where you can use proto gear and don't lose ISK. But right know the game mechanic doesn't allow the majority of players to participate. The small group in PC has enough ISK to use proto in any game mode.
This is why you see so much proto in pubs. CCP is aware of the broken economy and DEV Z is working to fix this. ( 1 guy only ?? ). Once the economy works you will see balance in the game. Don't forget the Eve universe is all about ISK. |
Maitue Mae
0uter.Heaven Academy
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:54:00 -
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How about this?
Three different "playlists" with the gamemodes within?
High Sec Matches:
Pubs and FW
Includes a limited Meta count, Limits the suits you are used by it's average equipment meta levels. (Wanna fit a Proto peice of gear? The rest of you suit better be Militia.)
MIL and STD.
Low Sec Matches:
Pubs and FW
A higher Meta count which is adjusted to allow up to all ADV gear for suits.
Null Sec Matches:
Pubs and FW
no Meta count limit.
PC will be it's own seperate thing.
Caldari Imigrant. I fight for the State.
MAG Vet: S.V.E.R - Paratrooper
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
732
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:59:00 -
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This ideas literally been around forever from eve vets.
Ccps just inept thats why they blew 57million dollars on r&d last year for world of darkness instead of spending it making dust not suck.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:07:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:There are no restrictions of what gear you can use in the Eve universe. ISK is managing all of that. You are blaming the side effects of a broken game mode ( PC ) and try to fix a other game mode.
pubs are low ISK payout contracts. Most of the time your minus when you die with proto.
If I recall correctly, titans are not allowed in high sec?
Not saying this is equivalent to running proto in pubs but there is precedent. |
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