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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
2021
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:41:00 -
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i'll be trying to master melee tanking. (again)
a few of you may remember back in 1.7 where i tested the viability of melee tanking. back in 1.7, it wasn't very useful at as a competetive tactic, because the abomination that was PERMA-SCANNING.
in 1.8, where scanning is less rampant, i have a feeling that it will be much more viable, though i do have my worries. nowadays, most people you fight, especially in closed maps are heavy spamming or scouts of some sort, and melee tanking requires you to give up any kind of HP tank in trade for speed and melee.
before i used a caldari med frame ck.0, which maxed out at 550 melee damage. now, i'll be using a minmatar med frame mk.0, because it maxes out at around 650 melee damage, can run at about 9.5 m/s, and has ridiculous stamina regen, ideal for melee tanking.
if it works out, then this will be just what i need to spice this game back up, but if not, i'll probably be going on hiatus for a while.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Forever ETC
703rd
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
294
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:44:00 -
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Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage.
Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd.
Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
THIS IS AMARR!!!
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Ander Thedas
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
479
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:45:00 -
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Let us know how this works out. Very curious over here.
Omnia mutantur nihil interit
FW lvl10 reward
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
2021
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:47:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage.
an important part of melee tanking is also SPEED TANKING, which you can't do on a commando.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Patrick57
7021
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:47:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage.
I'd guess because they're too slow. 
edit: Woot, I was right. (\(^-^ )/
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
800
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:52:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage. an important part of melee tanking is also SPEED TANKING, which you can't do on a commando.
should use an invisible scout suit. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
2021
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:55:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage. an important part of melee tanking is also SPEED TANKING, which you can't do on a commando. should use an invisible scout suit.
i tried already. the scout ck.0 maxes out at 400 melee damage, not even enough to kill some starter fits. the scout mk.0 would max out around 470-500, which is better, but still not good enough. when you tanke into account how many heavies there are nowadays, such a small amount of melee damage simply won't do. on top of that, the scout would only have it's base hp, which in most cases in less that 250, so if anything even looks at you, you're dead.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10439
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:02:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Why not use a Commando? They have like 240 or 260 melee damage.
Current commando melee is bugged, it was meant to be decreased to the same as the rest of the heavies.
Minmatar lights/scouts have higher base melee now (at least they should, not sure if its working), they're probably idea for melee tanking.
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Yoma Carrim
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
402
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:02:00 -
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Great I can look forward to getting one shotted by the butt of you Ishikone Assault SMG connecting with my head again can't I?
Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
660
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:27:00 -
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Why dont you use nova Knives? They are funny and can do a lot of dmg |
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Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:48:00 -
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Biscuit, you troll. I still have my enhanced myrofibril stimulants because of you xD I would join in the fun, but I went fully into gal scout and a tiny bit into min commando and sentinel and amarr assault.. once they make med frames a choice over scouts, then I will join in the steroid punching
CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9
Mic status: Muted
Feel the wrath of my troll
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
280
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:52:00 -
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Perma scanning still exists. Its more powerful than ever in the form of a Caldari Scout. Only 1 suit can avoid it thoGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
387
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:54:00 -
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Just remember Biscuit! Destiny soooooooonnnnnn! |
Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
184
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:54:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i'll be trying to master melee tanking. (again)
a few of you may remember back in 1.7 where i tested the viability of melee tanking. back in 1.7, it wasn't very useful at as a competetive tactic, because the abomination that was PERMA-SCANNING.
in 1.8, where scanning is less rampant, i have a feeling that it will be much more viable, though i do have my worries. nowadays, most people you fight, especially in closed maps are heavy spamming or scouts of some sort, and melee tanking requires you to give up any kind of HP tank in trade for speed and melee.
before i used a caldari med frame ck.0, which maxed out at 550 melee damage. now, i'll be using a minmatar med frame mk.0, because it maxes out at around 650 melee damage, can run at about 9.5 m/s, and has ridiculous stamina regen, ideal for melee tanking.
if it works out, then this will be just what i need to spice this game back up, but if not, i'll probably be going on hiatus for a while.
Its viable, ive tried, still have it, only thing i hate about it is my merc never extends his arm out long enough to actually hit a person 2 ft in front of him |
Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
206
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:56:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Perma scanning still exists. Its more powerful than ever in the form of a Caldari Scout. Only 1 suit can avoid it thoGǪ
GALLENTE FOREVER!
/fades away
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
206
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:59:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i'll be trying to master melee tanking. (again)
a few of you may remember back in 1.7 where i tested the viability of melee tanking. back in 1.7, it wasn't very useful at as a competetive tactic, because the abomination that was PERMA-SCANNING.
in 1.8, where scanning is less rampant, i have a feeling that it will be much more viable, though i do have my worries. nowadays, most people you fight, especially in closed maps are heavy spamming or scouts of some sort, and melee tanking requires you to give up any kind of HP tank in trade for speed and melee.
before i used a caldari med frame ck.0, which maxed out at 550 melee damage. now, i'll be using a minmatar med frame mk.0, because it maxes out at around 650 melee damage, can run at about 9.5 m/s, and has ridiculous stamina regen, ideal for melee tanking.
if it works out, then this will be just what i need to spice this game back up, but if not, i'll probably be going on hiatus for a while.
OK, Tranq. You got my curiousity up with this one, I was just looking at my total of no points in Biotics for Hand to Hand (HtH). My issues as a scout was exactly that, I wind up doing around a couple hundred points after getting HtH up to complex--but I hadn't considered stackign them. Still, I'd love a viable alternative to just precision enhancers or weapon damage or shields. This feels right, but I just gotta know how it works out for you. If you can make it happen, I'll consider myself happy in having a third weapon.
POST UP! 
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Sver true blood
General Tso's Alliance
1391
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:02:00 -
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I give youGǪ
Sucker Punch!
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
1107
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:03:00 -
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BISCUIT!!!!! Good luck! Hope it works out for you! |
Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
756
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:17:00 -
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I've been doing this the day 1.8 dropped.
Minmatar mk.0 with three Complex MyoStims and two Complex KinCats.
619 Melee Damage, 7.44 m/s sprint, over a bit 1000 eHP and an HMG for back-up.
Use Melee when it's appropriate. Trying to rush an enemy who's firing at you from even 10m away probably isn't going to work out well(especially with that goddamn bullet-snare effect), use the HMG when you need to.
Rush enemies who are only a few meters away, and use your speed advantage to flank enemies and punch them in the back of their stupid heads.
Against high eHP enemies it's wise to soften them up with the HMG before trying to Melee them.
You might die a lot though, so I usually use an ADV Sentiel with just two complex MyoStims. Helps me from hemorrhaging Isk, and it still works well as a Heavy, and the Melee is at ~400+ so it's still okay at finishing people off.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Card Drunook
DoC Deck of Contractors
96
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:25:00 -
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For fun I've been running "Iron Man" suits as I call them. Mk.0 Commando suits with two complex melee modules on them. It's not super effective, but it is enjoyable when I sneak up on a couple medium suits and beat them to death with a nanite injector.
There is a SINGLE melee build I use that can be very effective in certain situations: Mk.0 with melee and dampening mods with a cloak. It is a nightmare to other players, It will one hit most medium suits before they even know I'm there. |
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