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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
257
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:21:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:If you have over a billion ISK and can't stand to pay 500k for dropships, you're not greedy with your ISK, you're a ****. XD For emergencies I set aside on Alt account. If I spared a few ISK on assault ship I'll just end up getting addicted and buying an unnecessary amount.. It'll be Proto heavy all over again.
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet - CLOAKING
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
190
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:33:00 -
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Yeah, I think this is mostly an SP issue.
If you have the SP in vehicle upgrades and max racial/ADS skills, you'll probably do pretty well.
I've got everything at advanced, and as long as I'm not 1) pinched in a tight spot or 2) lagging after the first shot, I can usually save my Python. I run:
1 x Enhanced heavy shield extender 1 x Basic heavy shield extender 1 x Basic afterburner 1 x Complex PG upgrade 1 x Advanced missiles
It has 3244 shields (I think--definitely just over 3200) and maneuvers like a champ. The only really problems are rail tanks with damage stacked damage mods, or synchronized swarms/FGs.
Of course, I have horrible aim and am working on getting better at clearing infantry and equipment, but this setup is tough enough that I feel I get enough practice to actually improve.
If I had 1B+ ISK, I'd stock 100 and wouldn't think about it until I had 10 left.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1446
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:37:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them......
ADS uses a booster and runs away... :)
- Swarms are **** - FG doesn't work (still fires blanks) - Rail Tanks (300m) This was a good change but stil....
Need anymore crutches ?! How about 10K per ADS ?! Sounds about right... |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
766
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:41:00 -
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Leave the price where it's at. Theres already so many in the sky now a days, we don't need them nerfed.
Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood.
Futurama
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Riptalis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:55:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Leave the price where it's at. Theres already so many in the sky now a days, we don't need them nerfed. I rarely find another ADS pilot in a game. All I see are basic DS that are used to camp on top of buildings... |
Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
449
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:54:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:If you have over a billion ISK and can't stand to pay 500k for dropships, you're not greedy with your ISK, you're a ****. XD For emergencies I set aside on Alt account. If I spared a few ISK on assault ship I'll just end up getting addicted and buying an unnecessary amount.. It'll be Proto heavy all over again.
I think you're missing the part where you have over one b-*******-illion ISK. I would be spending and giving that **** away like crazy lol
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3431
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:02:00 -
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If i was that poor i would also not use assault dropships.
Selling Dust ISK
Sir Hadah for CPM
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Sad Heavy
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
29
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:06:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Without anything on them it about 300,000 isk to go from DS to ADS not even counting the price for the skill book
Not sure how much it is now but if its like the commando suits skill book thats 1 mill total If I remember way back when, I believe I paid around a mil for ADS skill book and 2 mil I think for the Caldari Assault Dropships
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
257
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:06:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:If you have over a billion ISK and can't stand to pay 500k for dropships, you're not greedy with your ISK, you're a ****. XD For emergencies I set aside on Alt account. If I spared a few ISK on assault ship I'll just end up getting addicted and buying an unnecessary amount.. It'll be Proto heavy all over again. I think you're missing the part where you have over one b-*******-illion ISK. I would be spending and giving that **** away like crazy lol Once I reach 2 billion I was going to give away 1 billion
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet - CLOAKING
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Kratek Heshan
King and Queens
21
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:14:00 -
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the python is too weak i took it down with 3 damage mod turn ON my rail tank the incubus have a better chance of surviving .they should make the assault dropships strong its to weak and expensive |
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Sad Heavy
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
29
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:15:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them...... ADS uses a booster and runs away... :) - Swarms are **** - FG doesn't work (still fires blanks) - Rail Tanks (300m) This was a good change but stil.... Need anymore crutches ?! How about 10K per ADS ?! Sounds about right... Yes, please make my Pythons 10k and I shall love CCP no matter what |
Kratek Heshan
King and Queens
21
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:22:00 -
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a little tip on assault dropships users don't stay to much and killing people if you keep that up everyone will start bringing there forge swarm and or to crash there dropship on you for a 1 hit kill if you got some few kills and destroy uplinks thats enough that will help to make the team win if we stay to much killing they will be pisess haha |
Riptalis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:31:00 -
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Kratek Heshan wrote:a little tip on assault dropships users don't stay to much and killing people if you keep that up everyone will start bringing there forge swarm and or to crash there dropship on you for a 1 hit kill if you got some few kills and destroy uplinks thats enough that will help to make the team win if we stay to much killing they will be pisess haha I learned that the hard way... |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1996
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:55:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them...... You're complaining about that? My tanks cost near a mil each, and those weren't even PC grade tanks. Enforcers would cost over 2.2mil each at the higher ends.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3930
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:00:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:Tanks can be more expensive
They're also easy mode. Dropships aren't.
No.
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Foxhound Elite
The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad.
696
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:37:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Riptalis wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Riptalis wrote:Yeah, my Python costs about the same. But I don't know why you're worrying about how expensive they are when you have a ton of money. I only have 10mil. I should be the one worrying.
I do have to admit, they need a upgrade! A small bump on anything and I'm already on at least 1/2 of my Shield, I have a max of 2k shield. They took away the ability to have 5k shield on ADS's, which was dumb. Tanks on the other hand are super overpowered. Degrade them! Assault Dropships are OP enough as is, they just need better collision damage. In the Lag City the tiniest bump can instantly destroy your dripship. I can be doing 1m/h and blow up on colllision. I'll have to disagree except for the collision part. ADS are only op at rare times. I've seen Foxhound Elite go like 40+/1 with a Python and I was dedicating myself to only kill him in that match, needless to say it didn't go so well for me, I spent millions of ISK trying to bring him down event with the cheapest tactics at some point and I failed. Tell me again how they are not OP in the right hands? You don't balance stuff around noobs, or even average players, you balance stuff around those that excel in using what they use. If you balance something around average player then those who know what they are doing will be unstoppable. PS. Foxhound if you are reading this, GG again.
just saw this now. cheers for the kind words. also, GG.
Regarding the prices, it's not 'noob-friendly' but then again, the Assault variants should only be flown in the hands of somebody who's well used to flying a standard variant, or militia, and can safely land / take off. In my view, once a player has got this down, they then should be able to get an Incubus or a Python and be pleasantly suprised that it's easier to fly, making them much more effective. At that stage, price shouldn't be an issue because if you fly right, you should be raking in the ISK, not burning it because you've put yourself and your ship in a high-risk situation.
Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2090
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:39:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them......
I lose roughly a million ISK in suits trying to kill each single ADS I encounter because they're so overpowered. The cost is pretty reasonable when you consider that even if someone kills your dropship, you still don't die, because they don't explode, and you have time to jump out and such.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Riptalis
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them...... I lose roughly a million ISK in suits trying to kill each single ADS I encounter because they're so overpowered. The cost is pretty reasonable when you consider that even if someone kills your dropship, you still don't die, because they don't explode, and you have time to jump out and such. They're not that hard to destroy, militia forges are fine. Most of the time that I get hit, and I'm going down, I usually die from my own dropship for some reason.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9633
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:21:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:That's crack prices! I'm extremely greedy with my ISK and I'm not even going to dare touch my Saved 1.37 Billion ISK just for these Ships that explode every time I touch a marshmallow... Now I see why assault dropships flyaway ohh baby I know what they're worth, ohh heaven is a place on earth whenever I start blowing my load..ed rail at them......
I'm 481K just for my turret and Frame on my tank...... not even including modules and small turrets.
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