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Tectonic Fusion 1460	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:44:00 - [1] - Quote Does anybody use those anymore? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 131	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:47:00 - [2] - Quote Yep. Still on my Calogi, love the thing. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 11 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 478	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:50:00 - [3] - Quote I want a tactical rail rifle.
Tectonic Fusion 1460	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:52:00 - [4] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. That would be nice. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1783	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:55:00 - [5] - Quote Naw. If I want an assault weapon, it'll be the ACR. If I want the range of a rail rifle, I'll just use the rail rifle. I find the ARR hard to control around the 80m range. Nerdier than thou
Asha Starwind 794	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:57:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Does anybody use those anymore? It's been made obsolete by a sidearm in my case. I tried but it seems to kick a lot more this patch or I just got too used to the magsec's recoil. Speaking of which the magsec does 90% of what I used the ARR to do. The kick really reduces it's useful range so it doesn't even have that going for it. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 879	Posted - 2014.04.12 22:59:00 - [7] - Quote I use the ARR on my CalLogi as well. It's a solid weapon for a combat logi and I like the range and stopping power it offers. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 151	Posted - 2014.04.12 23:00:00 - [8] - Quote I see a lot of Caldari Commandos running ARR/SR Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando / Do you even lift?
Justice Prevails 250	Posted - 2014.04.12 23:54:00 - [9] - Quote Like to pair it sometimes with the RR on my cal commando. Takes advantage of my rail prof 5 and the suit bonus. Its ok, but running the basic AR/RR instead feels more natural and it's cheaper. Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
Tectonic Fusion 1461	Posted - 2014.04.13 03:48:00 - [10] - Quote I've never died by it or the scramber rifle yet. Solo Player Squad status: Locked

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 272	Posted - 2014.04.13 03:53:00 - [11] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Does anybody use those anymore? It's been made obsolete by a sidearm in my case. I tried but it seems to kick a lot more this patch or I just got too used to the magsec's recoil. Speaking of which the magsec does 90% of what I used the ARR to do. The kick really reduces it's useful range so it doesn't even have that going for it. Unless I'm mistaken, I think the Rail Rifle Operation skill's kick reduction may be on the fritz (like everything else). Its either that or they nerfed it a little harder than they let us knowGÇª. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 152	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:05:00 - [12] - Quote Went Proficiency V Rail Rifle last build. Should've gone Combat Rifle. Can't win 'em all :-) I've yet to find myself in a situation where I'd wished I had an Assault Rail Rifle. Standard Rail Rifle outperforms Assault variant at range while other Fine Rifles (AR, CR) outperform Assault Rail up close. The MagSec makes the weapon even less relevant. If the Assault Rail had zero "charge" time, I still don't think I'd use it. Bang?
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 43	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:09:00 - [13] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've never died by it or the scramber rifle yet. I love the SCR, it is a hard hitter come and get me and you might just die by it
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1100	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:21:00 - [14] - Quote Its awesome I still use it
Tectonic Fusion 1462	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:21:00 - [15] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've never died by it or the scramber rifle yet. I love the SCR, it is a hard hitter come and get me and you might just die by it Nah, it got nerfed too hard to kill me. But it still does kill caldari and minmatar suits. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 58	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:39:00 - [16] - Quote Personally, I often find that the extra cost of variants compared to their performance makes using them unjustified most of the time. I am skilled into every rifle except the amarr ones though, so my perspective might be different than some people who aren't; because I can always use another gun that better fits the range and situation without resorting to variants.
Tectonic Fusion 1467	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:06:00 - [17] - Quote Argent Mordred wrote: Personally, I often find that the extra cost of variants compared to their performance makes using them unjustified most of the time. I am skilled into every rifle except the amarr ones though, so my perspective might be different than some people who aren't; because I can always use another gun that better fits the range and situation without resorting to variants. Yeah. I don't get why everyone doesn't have each weapon at least to advanced. It doesn't even cost that much SP unlike core skills like the Electronics and Engineering skills... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Lucrezia LeGrand 464	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:10:00 - [18] - Quote is it much different than a magsec? which would be better? an Assault Rail Rifle or an advanced or proto Magsec? Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
Tectonic Fusion 1468	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:11:00 - [19] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: is it much different than a magsec? which would be better? an Assault Rail Rifle or an advanced or proto Magsec? Of course in terms of DPS and range (I think), but the kick of the gun and the thick sight turns me off. However, people still used/use it. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 480	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:20:00 - [20] - Quote Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP.

Tectonic Fusion 1475	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:36:00 - [21] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP. Not OP, but good for kill stealing due to the huge alpha. EDIT: It would be cool and good for long range guerrilla warefare. It would suck up close, but be good at range (it would be cool if it had more zoom and range than the Rail Rifle). Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3939	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:42:00 - [22] - Quote It's nice, but anybody wanting to use it as their primary weapon would be better off with the ACR. The two have a very similar feel, but the Combat outperforms in pretty much every area. No.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 310	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:48:00 - [23] - Quote Yup I just started using it again. Like falling in love all over again We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Tectonic Fusion 1475	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:48:00 - [24] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: It's nice, but anybody wanting to use it as their primary weapon would be better off with the ACR. The two have a very similar feel, but the Combat outperforms in pretty much every area. I prefer the ACR and CR due to my tendency of jumping in peoples faces and blasting them, so I really don't like the ARR. The Rail Rifle is a different story, as it's just better. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 5083	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:50:00 - [25] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: Yep. Still on my Calogi, love the thing. Of course you do. Your corp is always on roofs XD Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
MINA Longstrike 503	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:51:00 - [26] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP. Not OP, but good for kill stealing due to the huge alpha. EDIT: It would be cool and good for long range guerrilla warefare. It would suck up close, but be good at range (it would be cool if it had more zoom and range than the Rail Rifle). I was running around as a cal scout with sniper rifle and magsec earlier. it was pretty not bad. I'd greatly prefer a tac rail though as I could still conceivably use it in close quarters. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
just-what-you need MERCENARIES ONLY 14	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:52:00 - [27] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Yep. Still on my Calogi, love the thing. Of course you do. Your corp is always on roofs XD true
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 310	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:55:00 - [28] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: It's nice, but anybody wanting to use it as their primary weapon would be better off with the ACR. The two have a very similar feel, but the Combat outperforms in pretty much every area. I had a stint with the acr and it just feels weak is some situations I prefer arr We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1917	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:56:00 - [29] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. Oh god so much this! This is what I envisioned the Rail Rifle to be anyways, though I think that role primarily went to the SCR. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 5083	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:56:00 - [30] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: It's nice, but anybody wanting to use it as their primary weapon would be better off with the ACR. The two have a very similar feel, but the Combat outperforms in pretty much every area. I had a stint with the acr and it just feels weak is some situations I prefer arr The ARR is better for longer ranges, the AR is better for close range spray and pray. Both get outdone by the regular RR and regular CR thou, the CR being slightly superior since it preforms well at all ranges. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread

Tectonic Fusion 1475	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:57:00 - [31] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. Oh god so much this! This is what I envisioned the Rail Rifle to be anyways, though I think that role primarily went to the SCR. Yeah, but I did too think this would be the rail rifle. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1208	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:27:00 - [32] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I think that's called the bolt pistol. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Tectonic Fusion 1477	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:32:00 - [33] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I think that's called the bolt pistol. No. Giant bolt pistol... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1870	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:41:00 - [34] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I think that's called the bolt pistol. No. Giant bolt pistol... ... that's not capped at 60m absolute range (i.e. 0 damage, not even a tacnet readout, beyond 60m). Nerdier than thou
Paladin Sas Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 334	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:51:00 - [35] - Quote Not sure why all the hate on the arr. I love it. Have it paired with a magsec and bolt pistol. And yes, I get kills with the arr and bp regularly
Tectonic Fusion 1477	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:56:00 - [36] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: Not sure why all the hate on the arr. I love it. Have it paired with a magsec and bolt pistol. And yes, I get kills with the arr and bp regularly Because the ARR is inferior to the rail rifle, combat rifle, assault combat rifle, scrambler rifle, and assault scrambler rifle. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1233	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:14:00 - [37] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I think that's called the bolt pistol. No. Giant bolt pistol... Yes, exactly. We could call it... The "Bolt." "Rifle." Such technical wording may be too complex to understand for some. but visionaries are never understood by lesser minds. edit: yeah, yeah, "rail rifle" blah blah. but its incredibly stupid that there is a pistol, that does more damage per shot, than the supposed rifle version. At least give us something like "breech rail rifle", that does bolt pistol damage, at rail rifle range, for cost of lower RoF. Seems like this is the first weapon that any self-respecting caldari weapons researcher would make.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5637	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:16:00 - [38] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: It's nice, but anybody wanting to use it as their primary weapon would be better off with the ACR. The two have a very similar feel, but the Combat outperforms in pretty much every area. At the moment CR outperforms everything in everything. Even Null Cannons vs. MCC. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Cinnamon267 142	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:27:00 - [39] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I'm kinda amazed it doesn't exist. Why is it a full-auto weapon instead of a giant bolt pistol? Like.... the Bolt Rifle?
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 463	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:56:00 - [40] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP. No, that would make it a large bolt pistol

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1873	Posted - 2014.04.15 06:02:00 - [41] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP. No, that would make it a large bolt pistol .... Tectonic Fusion wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I think that's called the bolt pistol. No. Giant bolt pistol... We are just full of constructive comments today. Nerdier than thou
Dengar Skirata The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 101	Posted - 2014.04.15 06:22:00 - [42] - Quote I love my assault rail rifle. To me, the regular rail rifle just feels a little too easy to kill with. I want a challenge, but I don't want to be completely outclassed by every other weapon. I feel the ARR accomplishes this rather nicely. Oh, and I would love to see Tactical and burst rail rifles. // Author of the Dust Spec Ops Tactics Handbook // Templis Dragonaur // Caldari Loyalist // MAG Veteran (RAVEN)
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 278	Posted - 2014.04.15 15:31:00 - [43] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Give me a tac rail. please. I don't care if it has a .6 second spool-up and one shot per trigger press as long as it does a delicious 170 damage per shot, and yes I know that having this much damage would probably make it OP. No, that would make it a large bolt pistol And this would be a bad thing? BP is a sweat pistol, and once they unglitch the range it will be even sweaterGÇªLow rate of fire on a TacRR would keep it from being the goto for FotM chasers. How would it be different from a Tac Sniper, tho? The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1236	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:20:00 - [44] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: And this would be a bad thing? BP is a sweat pistol, and once they unglitch the range it will be even sweaterGÇªLow rate of fire on a TacRR would keep it from being the goto for FotM chasers. How would it be different from a Tac Sniper, tho? It would be useful? Seriously, though: range. (Plus ammo.) bolt pistol: 0-60 bolt rifle: 0-100 tac sniper: 0-400
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4222	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:20:00 - [45] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I want an Assault Flaylock Rifle I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
MINA Longstrike 511	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:43:00 - [46] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. I want an Assault Flaylock Rifle I actually think flaylock rounds should have some mild homing to them. So if give you your assault flay rifle Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1176	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:55:00 - [47] - Quote I want a Tactical combat rifle. Also Burst Flaylock. General John Ripper is my 2nd best friend!
Eko Sol Strange Playings 156	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:13:00 - [48] - Quote I'm so spec'd into it (3 prof) that I haven't faced the reality that it is less effective until I hit armor. I am actually not sure where to go. The ARR has become obsolete. I'm too deep into the CQC battles to be able to effectively run normal RR. My AR is just no good anymore since 1.7 and supposedly it's been nerfed a few other times. Lately I've been running a cheap scout suit to get some RE's and uplinks and a few kills with my AR/ARR. After I finally die, if links are still strong, I come in heavy with HMG. I have to come up with something better. I think I may go ACR since I've seen some MASSIVE success from other players. I may even go into shotgun and use the magsec with a damage mod since it practically as good or better than an ARR without a dmg mod. This is long term. To answer your question: Yes, I still use it but it just sucks now in comparison to other weapons. People QQ'd so much. I had no issues beating RR users with my AR in 1.7. None whatsoever. A bunch of morons in slow suits would run clear across the map in the open and start crying b/c a rail rifle killed them. It was ridiculous. There was zero justification for QQ'ing over weapons in 1.7. ZERO. Actually, the only one was the shot gun. Of course they didn't nerf that one...******* unreal. Just thinking about the players complaints in 1.7 and CPM's lack of ability to convey a better reality to CCP just erks me.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5077	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:21:00 - [49] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I want a tactical rail rifle. AKA The Gallante Marksman Rifle. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2474	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:21:00 - [50] - Quote To echo other sentiments in this thread. I find the ARR has too much kick when compared to other rifle weapons. I personally find the SB-39 RR + M209 ASMG combo to be incredible myself. At the shorter ranges where the ARR would be more desirable over the RR the ASMG shines.

Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property 1692	Posted - 2014.06.03 07:43:00 - [51] - Quote Neeeecro General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!


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