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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:34:00 -
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Last night I made >768k from one battle netting >4,000 WP.
How? 10 vehicle kills and a few assists vs a squad of 3 ADS' and 3 HAVs.
I love love love it. Only lost a couple tanks doing so and one was a sica.
The DUELIST rail fit is back, gents. No redline. All risk. Intel ware are at its finest. Feels like running a scout ck.0 and a rail rifle.
CCP you made tanks awesome :)
The two biggest noob tactics: redline rails and hardener stacking were nerfed. Once more, tank v tank requires skill. Not to mention I'm angle to solo most HAVs with a scout c-1, cloak, adv av grenade, nerd SL, and f/45 combo.
The balance is back:
Infantry stomping madrugar best countered by ALPHA DMG rail or missile which can't tank infantry AV or hit them easily, who die to madrugars. Then drop ships counter everything but are also weak vs everything. Its so close to balance that I might explode.
Please don't spend 1.9 Nerding things. Work on content and buff assaults....and fix forge gun glitch. But that's it. Nothing needs a nerf, but just a couple buffs and fixes. I want my MN HAV. I want basic adv and pro tanks. I want new guns and a player market. None of this can happen if y'all keep Nerfing things instead of expanding the game.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2319
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:09:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Only vehicle users are claiming balance, everyone else still see that there is no balance between vehicles and infantry, not even close.
Blasters are still the best weapon in the game bar none, passive armor tanks are still immune to an AVer, tanks still require no teamwork while AV requires tons, tankers are still full of sh-t.
But...the only tanks I can't solo as infantry AV are the ones designed to have a huge amount of HP and reps per second; sacrificing any ability to fight off other tanks. Any tank short of a double hardened PR triple dropped madrugar is an easy kill. I'd say that's working as intended. If someone builds a streamline dampened scout build or a pure HP heavy build or pure DPS sniper rifle build, how can you honestly say that it is imbalanced?
I assure you that in my tank, which can take out 10 vehicles with ease, I am completely vulnerable to one AV guy with crap gear because missiles and rails rarely will land the first shot.
You need to reassess your definition of balance because it seems you will not rest until you get 1.5-1.6 back.
Do you also complain about invisible scouts when you don't run a cal scout or gal logi fit to find scouts? Do you also complain about heavies being too hard to fight cqc? Do scrambler rifles bother you because you run the plasma rifle?
This game is very well balanced atm; so well balanced that the community cannot determine which suit is best. Yeah, scout ck0 + gk0, sentinal gk0, HAV, ADS, and Commando mk0 are front runners for FOTM, but it's still far more than any other build. Almost every weapon is powerful and working as intended, too.
I seek balance for everyone.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2321
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:08:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Stalken Pathfinder wrote:2-3 remote explosives = dead tank regardless of fit... Just because old AV tactics don't work doesn't mean there aren't new ones. Stop complaining and trying to force the game to do what you want it to. Adapt or just keep dieing, up to you in the end. An RE deals out 1500 damage, are you telling me that there are no vehicle fits with more than 4500 HP? With hardeners? Tankers continually make arguments without checking basic facts. I've been told that a proximity mine can take out a tank, they deal 750 damage, I can deploy four, for 3000 damage. Would that take your tank out? I've been told by tankers that swarms will take them out, while it is virtually impossible to do so. How are you not just trying to keep the game to be the way you want to be, just like you accuse AV'ers of doing?
What's your point?
An infantryman is easily able to solo everything except a highly tanked madrugar. 3 REs and 2 av grenades is more than enough to take out tanks that kill tanks.
It is not the job of AV to kill the KDR chasing madrugars, it is their job to defend them against the madrigar hunting glass cannons. If AV was 100% effective vs all vehicles, then the madrugar with a blaster will be the only tank you see BC gunogi tank slayers will serve no purpose.
Rock paper scissors has been achieved. Yes, AV needs a small buff, but balance is nearly at hand.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2322
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:34:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Last night I made >768k from one battle netting >4,000 WP.
How? 10 vehicle kills and a few assists vs a squad of 3 ADS' and 3 HAVs.
I love love love it. Only lost a couple tanks doing so and one was a sica.
The DUELIST rail fit is back, gents. No redline. All risk. Intel ware are at its finest. Feels like running a scout ck.0 and a rail rifle.
CCP you made tanks awesome :)
The two biggest noob tactics: redline rails and hardener stacking were nerfed. Once more, tank v tank requires skill. Not to mention I'm angle to solo most HAVs with a scout c-1, cloak, adv av grenade, nerd SL, and f/45 combo.
The balance is back:
Infantry stomping madrugar best countered by ALPHA DMG rail or missile which can't tank infantry AV or hit them easily, who die to madrugars. Then drop ships counter everything but are also weak vs everything. Its so close to balance that I might explode.
Please don't spend 1.9 Nerding things. Work on content and buff assaults....and fix forge gun glitch. But that's it. Nothing needs a nerf, but just a couple buffs and fixes. I want my MN HAV. I want basic adv and pro tanks. I want new guns and a player market. None of this can happen if y'all keep Nerfing things instead of expanding the game. Hate to say this, but you are noob char char. You sure love 2 second tank battles don't you. I don't view that as any sign of "skills". I believe what you are looking for is WoT. Btw, triple hardeners are the new double hardener fit. I can still out tank a damage modded railgun, fyi. Sorry I'm not "easy mode" for you.
Stacking hardeners is quite honestly the most childish tactic I've ever seen. Its lower than spamming core locus grenades. You are the type of person who depends on your gear to carry you. I am a far superior tanker to you and anyone who has played with me knows I am, and have been since late Chrome, one of the best Caldari tankers that has ever been.
I don't redline snipe. I don't stack hardeners. I charge in with not but a nitrous and a couple damage mods. I am the best BC I always get the first shot; tank modules are used by people who think slowly, and act slower.
My builds reflect my philosophy: Get in their OODA-loop and nothing does that faster than a hard hitting gun. I get excited when the odds are against me. I'm a wealthy tanker because I am one of the best.
You can call me a noob, but I assure you that when a Corp knows I'll be in my tank during a PC, they bring the best they can. I really doubt anyone would take you over me.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2322
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:35:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Char, proofreading is your friend.
Damn CCP and all their nerding; to be fair though, they do make games.
You just became the lowest level of troll. Congratulations.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2322
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:39:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Stalken Pathfinder wrote:2-3 remote explosives = dead tank regardless of fit... Just because old AV tactics don't work doesn't mean there aren't new ones. Stop complaining and trying to force the game to do what you want it to. Adapt or just keep dieing, up to you in the end. An RE deals out 1500 damage, are you telling me that there are no vehicle fits with more than 4500 HP? With hardeners? Tankers continually make arguments without checking basic facts. I've been told that a proximity mine can take out a tank, they deal 750 damage, I can deploy four, for 3000 damage. Would that take your tank out? I've been told by tankers that swarms will take them out, while it is virtually impossible to do so. How are you not just trying to keep the game to be the way you want to be, just like you accuse AV'ers of doing? What's your point? An infantryman is easily able to solo everything except a highly tanked madrugar. 3 REs and 2 av grenades is more than enough to take out tanks that kill tanks. It is not the job of AV to kill the KDR chasing madrugars, it is their job to defend them against the madrigar hunting glass cannons. If AV was 100% effective vs all vehicles, then the madrugar with a blaster will be the only tank you see BC gunogi tank slayers will serve no purpose. Rock paper scissors has been achieved. Yes, AV needs a small buff, but balance is nearly at hand. Holy crap, do you even AV? RE's yes will kill a tank, good luck dropping them on me though or any decent tanker. Swarms are USELESS against shields, still. The forge gun I would say is in a good spot, if I didn't have 3 misfires in a row CONSISTENTLY. Holy hell are you so full of ****. You are back for a few games and go wow, tanks are so balanced now. No analysis, no facts to back up your statements. It's just that, a statement. But hey, you are char char, the nub with a huge ego that also singlehandedly took down the best tank squads TP, AE, NS, ML, RND, and STB ever put together.
Fixed
I'd say something about you but I really don't know anything about you BC you aren't significant.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2322
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:02:00 -
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EverNub wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Only vehicle users are claiming balance, everyone else still see that there is no balance between vehicles and infantry, not even close.
Blasters are still the best weapon in the game bar none, passive armor tanks are still immune to an AVer, tanks still require no teamwork while AV requires tons, tankers are still full of sh-t. But...the only tanks I can't solo as infantry AV are the ones designed to have a huge amount of HP and reps per second; sacrificing any ability to fight off other tanks. Any tank short of a double hardened PR triple dropped madrugar is an easy kill. I'd say that's working as intended. If someone builds a streamline dampened scout build or a pure HP heavy build or pure DPS sniper rifle build, how can you honestly say that it is imbalanced? I assure you that in my tank, which can take out 10 vehicles with ease, I am completely vulnerable to one AV guy with crap gear because missiles and rails rarely will land the first shot. You need to reassess your definition of balance because it seems you will not rest until you get 1.5-1.6 back. Do you also complain about invisible scouts when you don't run a cal scout or gal logi fit to find scouts? Do you also complain about heavies being too hard to fight cqc? Do scrambler rifles bother you because you run the plasma rifle? This game is very well balanced atm; so well balanced that the community cannot determine which suit is best. Yeah, scout ck0 + gk0, sentinal gk0, HAV, ADS, and Commando mk0 are front runners for FOTM, but it's still far more than any other build. Almost every weapon is powerful and working as intended, too. I seek balance for everyone. Provide video of how easy it was to kill tanks and I will believe you. I have no doubt you can kill tanks with AV. I do it daily, but I have seen virtually no games where AV controlled tanks without their own vehicles contributing or having such a lopsided game that AV is free to do whatever it wants. That isn't balance. I hear many claims, many demonstrably false, from tankers who claim that AV/vehicle has been achieved but I have yet to see any statistical evidence or even verifiable ancedotal evidence to support these claims. EverNub is my AV master... Come play a match with me and ill show u how much AV can change the matches now!
It's true.
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