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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Wait, I didn't mention, we intentionally didn't call in any vehicle. We "only" had 2 forges and 1 Swarm launcher. All the other blueberries were trying to hack the null cannon.

@dark cloud for the whole first half the guy in the video (corbina) was teamed with me and another forge: it was just so hard to even shoot because of the ADS, but then it was harder because there was, as Nitro said, infantry defending their vehicles / attacking AVs

Moreover, in general, every vehicle destroyed, there was at least other 4 shooting at you.

So they were using teamwork to defend each other.

Working as intended.

Moving along now.

Untrue. You should compare the vehicles to AV. Our blues were actually "defending" (yeah, in their own special way) the AV but still, with an AV fit I can only defend myself and shoot at tanks, with a tank or a ADS you can defend yourself, the others, run away 5x faster than a dedicated AV spending less isk. No, not working as intended.

You know, I've always seen this kind of circle: AV>Tanks, Infantry>AV, Tanks>Infantry and not Tanks>AV, Tanks>Infantry, Infantry>AV like clearly is since 1.7.

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

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xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2195	Posted - 2014.04.09 15:30:00 - [1] - Quote You made vehicles and AV this way. Me and my squad was probably doing something wrong while playing this match. So, please, Dev response on how to effectively counter vehicle spam and win the match. -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2195	Posted - 2014.04.09 15:56:00 - [2] - Quote up -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 249	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:16:00 - [3] - Quote Probably didn't help that my squad was protecting the vehicles as infantry. Ahh, the recorder was scanning me when the match started, funny, he couldn't aim at the big chevron above me.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2195	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:17:00 - [4] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Probably didn't help that my squad was protecting the vehicles as infantry. Exactly! -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2731	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:19:00 - [5] - Quote You should use a cloak instead of remote explosives. Then team up with a 2nd scout and ambush tanks that way. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2158	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:19:00 - [6] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: You made vehicles and AV this way. Me and my squad was probably doing something wrong while playing this match. So, please, Dev response on how to effectively counter vehicle spam and win the match. Oh, and please notice the guys laggy strafe. Enemy Vehicle spam in Skirmish and Domination and you still lost? You know these guys won't get out of their vehicles to cap a point and are basically just moving turrets? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1990	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:20:00 - [7] - Quote Vehicle spam? Roll with a tanker, and help them out any way you can. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1990	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:21:00 - [8] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: You should use a cloak instead of remote explosives. Then team up with a 2nd scout and ambush tanks that way. Except it doesn't work on people like me. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 249	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: The dark cloud wrote: You should use a cloak instead of remote explosives. Then team up with a 2nd scout and ambush tanks that way. Except it doesn't work on people like me. Of course, you are the best of the best after all.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2195	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:27:00 - [10] - Quote Wait, I didn't mention, we intentionally didn't call in any vehicle. We "only" had 2 forges and 1 Swarm launcher. All the other blueberries were trying to hack the null cannon. @dark cloud for the whole first part the guy in the video (corbina) was teamed with me and another forge: it was just so hard to even shoot because of the ADS, but then it was harder because there was, as Nitro said, infantry defending their vehicles / attacking AVs -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1990	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:34:00 - [11] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: The dark cloud wrote: You should use a cloak instead of remote explosives. Then team up with a 2nd scout and ambush tanks that way. Except it doesn't work on people like me. Of course, you are the best of the best after all. No, because I pay attention and move away really fast at the first beep. I've blown up my share of tanks using REs because they didn't know any better. It will work for only so long before everyone knows what's going on. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1990	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:34:00 - [12] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Wait, I didn't mention, we intentionally didn't call in any vehicle. We "only" had 2 forges and 1 Swarm launcher. All the other blueberries were trying to hack the null cannon. @dark cloud for the whole first half the guy in the video (corbina) was teamed with me and another forge: it was just so hard to even shoot because of the ADS, but then it was harder because there was, as Nitro said, infantry defending their vehicles / attacking AVs Moreover, in general, every vehicle destroyed, there was at least other 4 shooting at you. So they were using teamwork to defend each other. Working as intended. Moving along now. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2196	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:40:00 - [13] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Wait, I didn't mention, we intentionally didn't call in any vehicle. We "only" had 2 forges and 1 Swarm launcher. All the other blueberries were trying to hack the null cannon. @dark cloud for the whole first half the guy in the video (corbina) was teamed with me and another forge: it was just so hard to even shoot because of the ADS, but then it was harder because there was, as Nitro said, infantry defending their vehicles / attacking AVs Moreover, in general, every vehicle destroyed, there was at least other 4 shooting at you. So they were using teamwork to defend each other. Working as intended. Moving along now. Untrue. You should compare the vehicles to AV. Our blues were actually "defending" (yeah, in their own special way) the AV but still, with an AV fit I can only defend myself and shoot at tanks, with a tank or a ADS you can defend yourself, the others, run away 5x faster than a dedicated AV spending less isk. No, not working as intended. You know, I've always seen this kind of circle: AV>Tanks, Infantry>AV, Tanks>Infantry and not Tanks>AV, Tanks>Infantry, Infantry>AV like clearly is since 1.7. -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1990	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:44:00 - [14] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Wait, I didn't mention, we intentionally didn't call in any vehicle. We "only" had 2 forges and 1 Swarm launcher. All the other blueberries were trying to hack the null cannon. @dark cloud for the whole first half the guy in the video (corbina) was teamed with me and another forge: it was just so hard to even shoot because of the ADS, but then it was harder because there was, as Nitro said, infantry defending their vehicles / attacking AVs Moreover, in general, every vehicle destroyed, there was at least other 4 shooting at you. So they were using teamwork to defend each other. Working as intended. Moving along now. Untrue. You should compare the vehicles to AV. Our blues were actually "defending" (yeah, in their own special way) the AV but still, with an AV fit I can only defend myself and shoot at tanks, with a tank or a ADS you can defend yourself, the others, run away 5x faster than a dedicated AV spending less isk. No, not working as intended. You know, I've always seen this kind of circle: AV>Tanks, Infantry>AV, Tanks>Infantry and not Tanks>AV, Tanks>Infantry, Infantry>AV like clearly is since 1.7. No infantry on here accepts teamwork!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! None of them!!!!! There can be no comparison, because the idiots on here don't believe in teamwork. I can't tell you how many times the French, Polish, Japanese and Russians have made a total joke of the experience I have. And you know what? They rarely, if ever post on here, at least on the English section of the forums. So they aren't complaining about tanks. They just destroy them by whatever means. I can respect someone I can't talk to, who just succeeds a hell of a lot more than someone I can talk to, who keeps complaining about something that's relatively easy to solve, yet still tries breaking their way through a brick wall with their fists, when the door is right next to them. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2897	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:50:00 - [15] - Quote If your blueberries had been able to pull their weight you would have done better. It is hard to kill vehicles when you are constantly being swarmed by infantry. I think it was more a case of the enemy having both vehicles, and good infantry, while outside of your own squad you were not getting a whole lot of support. You seemed to be able to handle the vehicles fairly well when the infantry were held at bay. I still think that Swarm Launchers need a 12% buff to both damage and rang. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2196	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:51:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: So they aren't complaining about tanks. It's simply fallacious. If they don't post on here it doesn't absolutely mean they don't complain about it! -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2705	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:51:00 - [17] - Quote Sprkr goes 4/8 as a tanker in PC LMFAO... The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 90.31% Complete
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2196	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:54:00 - [18] - Quote double post -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2196	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:56:00 - [19] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: If your blueberries had been able to pull their weight you would have done better. It is hard to kill vehicles when you are constantly being swarmed by infantry. I think it was more a case of the enemy having both vehicles, and good infantry, while outside of your own squad you were not getting a whole lot of support. You seemed to be able to handle the vehicles fairly well when the infantry were held at bay. And, yes, you're right. But this match was an exception; in other words, I'm not going to spend 100k isk per drop suit just trying to destroy tanks and ds in a pub, and nobody would imo. They see four tanks on the ground and think "kay, I'll quit" looking for another match. It's kinda game breaking, isn't it? -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2897	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:57:00 - [20] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: If your blueberries had been able to pull their weight you would have done better. It is hard to kill vehicles when you are constantly being swarmed by infantry. I think it was more a case of the enemy having both vehicles, and good infantry, while outside of your own squad you were not getting a whole lot of support. You seemed to be able to handle the vehicles fairly well when the infantry were held at bay. And, yes, you're right. But this match was an exception; in other words, I'm not going to spend 100k isk per drop suit just trying to destroy tanks and ds in a pub, and nobody would imo. They see four tanks on the ground and think "kay, I'll quit" Yeah, I still think that Swarm Launchers need a 12% buff to both damage and rang. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 769	Posted - 2014.04.09 17:25:00 - [21] - Quote I cheered every time you broke a vehicle. I hate vehicle spam. The changes helped some even though they are not the changes i would have preferred. Vehicles are still OP. ADS are vicious now since they can run away from everything. ...
Corbina Ninja Maphia Clan Corporation 780	Posted - 2014.04.09 17:59:00 - [22] - Quote after that game I realized how to use my AV weapons ---> LINK Nitrobeacon wrote: Ahh, the recorder was scanning me when the match started, funny, he couldn't aim at the big chevron above me. I can read all your though but i suck at aim > *Test Signature Please Ignore* Tanks&Heavys 514 Black Ops Scout
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 528	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:13:00 - [23] - Quote I'm sick if infantry spam all iver the damn field closed beta Vet "The mashed up corpses of red Berrys make for great track lube"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6485	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:17:00 - [24] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: If your blueberries had been able to pull their weight you would have done better. It is hard to kill vehicles when you are constantly being swarmed by infantry. I think it was more a case of the enemy having both vehicles, and good infantry, while outside of your own squad you were not getting a whole lot of support. You seemed to be able to handle the vehicles fairly well when the infantry were held at bay. And, yes, you're right. But this match was an exception; in other words, I'm not going to spend 100k isk per drop suit just trying to destroy tanks and ds in a pub, and nobody would imo. They see four tanks on the ground and think "kay, I'll quit" Yeah, I still think that Swarm Launchers need a 12% buff to both damage and rang. Indeed. Especially considering how the Damage Modifier nerfed the possible damage output of Anti-Vehicle weapons. #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 252	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:18:00 - [25] - Quote Corbina Ninja wrote: after that game I realized how to use my AV weapons ---> LINK Nitrobeacon wrote: Ahh, the recorder was scanning me when the match started, funny, he couldn't aim at the big chevron above me. I can read all your though but i suck at aim Haha, that's really cool.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6485	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:20:00 - [26] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: I'm sick if infantry spam all iver the damn field Infantry spam would be a problem if they had over 4,000 eHP, a hitscan weapon with greater DPS than a 1.6 Rifle, a 175m range, and a ~~Warpdrive~~ NOS Module. Also, Infantry spam can be countered by literally any weapon in the game (bar 2 Grenades & 1 Light Weapon). How bad a player are you? #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND


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