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Mr Retsof VI
Thale's Armament Company
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:02:00 -
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While doing research for my upcoming Arms Trafficking Company, I came across the listed prices of some of our most wanted items.
Much Thanks to Dust Thang for doing all the work.
126,495 Isk
Thale's TAR-07 Sniper Rifle
Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle
Balac's GAR-21 Assault Rifle
Krin's SIN-11 Assault Rifle
56,925 Isk
Cala's MK-33 Submachine Gun
Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun
Wolfman's PCP-30 Scrambler Pistol
47,220 Isk
Gastun's MIN-7 HMG
So.....
1) Should knowing this actual cost affect open market value ?
I won't like having to pay 1 million Isk for a 126,000 Sniper Rifle.
2) Should CCP just put these on the Market ? Then make some new, more powerful Rare Weapons to be dropped on the field?
Yes.
Any thoughts ?
Launch Day+3 Vet--Full time Sniper--Part time Bomber
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Walter Blanch
THE REZISTANCE
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:10:00 -
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Mr Retsof VI wrote:
So.....
1) Should knowing this actual cost affect open market value ?
I won't like having to pay 1 million Isk for a 126,000 Sniper Rifle.
This "actual cost" is in no way an actual cost. There's no NPC market that sells a Thale, there's no way to produce a Thale. The only way to get one is to have it drop on the battlefield. As such, why should the number in the database have any impact whatsoever as to the cost of the weapon?
Mr retsof VI wrote:
2) Should CCP just put these on the Market ? Then make some new, more powerful Rare Weapons to be dropped on the field?
Yes.
No. We already have "Rare Weapons", the Officer variants (the weapons you listed.) |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
438
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:10:00 -
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Why do gastuns cost cheaper than my proto assault scrambler rifle...
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:13:00 -
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I don't think it's going to matter because we're not gonna get an open market o.o
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
155
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:15:00 -
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Should a market occur, there is no bleeding way anyone would let officer weapons go for the cost of a single, poor-to-mediocre battle payout.
Your numbers are flawed, friend. Sorry :(
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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mollerz
3223
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:17:00 -
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Thales are going to be 7 figures at least.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1049
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:19:00 -
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I highly doubt those prices. Everyone can pull in about 150k a match but will rarely get a Thale's. Thus, the 'work' to get 150k is a hell of a lot easier than getting a Thale's. It is easier to determine "odds of getting an officer weapon multiplied by how desirable it is." So Wolfman's Scrambler and Thale's Sniper Rifle have the same chance of dropping (say every 8 matches) but Thale's is wanted a LOT more than Wolfman's. So a Thale's goes for 1,000,000 and Wolfman's goes for 500,000. "Actual price" is pointless because they are rare. It costs 10 dollars to get a perfect poster replica of the Mona Lisa. You can't base the actual Mona Lisa on that price.
No, it shouldn't be put on the market by NPC's; it should stay salvage. The reason is simple: you are asking for power creep. "Man, Thale's are really good. They should put it on the market and then release REALLY powerful stuff as salvage." *a year later* "Man, Valini's are REALLY good. They should put it on the market and then release REALLY, REALLY powerful stuff as salvage."
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Walter Blanch
THE REZISTANCE
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:21:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I don't think it's going to matter because we're not gonna get an open market o.o
*snip*
CCP Saberwing wrote:
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Some day... |
JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1819
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:57:00 -
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Mr Retsof VI wrote:While doing research for my upcoming Arms Trafficking Company, I came across the listed prices of some of our most wanted items. Much Thanks to Dust Thang for doing all the work. 126,495 IskThale's TAR-07 Sniper Rifle Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle Balac's GAR-21 Assault Rifle Krin's SIN-11 Assault Rifle 56,925 IskCala's MK-33 Submachine Gun Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun Wolfman's PCP-30 Scrambler Pistol 47,220 IskGastun's MIN-7 HMG So..... 1) Should knowing this actual cost affect open market value ? I won't like having to pay 1 million Isk for a 126,000 Sniper Rifle. 2) Should CCP just put these on the Market ? Then make some new, more powerful Rare Weapons to be dropped on the field? Yes. Any thoughts ?
I will buy everything you have at these prices.
Forums>Dead and dying game
Sooo... Can't handle the end game?
I Sorry.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
511
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:58:00 -
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What is this N-17 that you speak of ?
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:59:00 -
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This isn't an 'actual cost'...
Why do you think it is?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
247
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:01:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:What is this N-17 that you speak of ?
Apart of the broken salvage system...
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
374
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:01:00 -
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Officer weapons will be worth what people are willing to pay. I think thales will push close to 1 mil. Balacs might be 200-300k.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
165
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:11:00 -
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This won't change my prices. But my prices weren't that far off.
4KD Minmatar Assault
Weapon sp refund please
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Deltahawk Durango
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
188
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:17:00 -
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mr. deep pockets will overpay for every thale's on the market, then mark up the prices... that's how economics work... don't be foolish in thinking you will score a thale's by farming a couple ambushes...
try 5-10 million 
I don't believe in an eye for an eye...
I believe in two eyes for an eye!
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
221
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:21:00 -
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Mr Retsof VI wrote:While doing research for my upcoming Arms Trafficking Company, I came across the listed prices of some of our most wanted items. Much Thanks to Dust Thang for doing all the work. 126,495 IskThale's TAR-07 Sniper Rifle Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle Balac's GAR-21 Assault Rifle Krin's SIN-11 Assault Rifle 56,925 IskCala's MK-33 Submachine Gun Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun Wolfman's PCP-30 Scrambler Pistol 47,220 IskGastun's MIN-7 HMG So..... 1) Should knowing this actual cost affect open market value ? I won't like having to pay 1 million Isk for a 126,000 Sniper Rifle. 2) Should CCP just put these on the Market ? Then make some new, more powerful Rare Weapons to be dropped on the field? Yes. Any thoughts ?
I've never seen the Balac's MRN - 30 SMG....
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
600
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Posted - 2014.04.07 18:01:00 -
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I keep hearing no sales of officer gear amongst players as a rumor but have yet to see a blue tag, don't get ur hopes up tho
My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
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Virtual Riot
Rebels New Republic
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
311
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Posted - 2014.04.07 18:10:00 -
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Those prices are wildly inaccurate, I hope you sell at that price so I can make millions off you. I posted a thread about this awhile ago i'll link it here in a second
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540818 |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2151
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Posted - 2014.04.07 18:20:00 -
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Mr Retsof VI wrote:While doing research for my upcoming Arms Trafficking Company, I came across the listed prices of some of our most wanted items. Much Thanks to Dust Thang for doing all the work. 126,495 IskThale's TAR-07 Sniper Rifle Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle Balac's GAR-21 Assault Rifle Krin's SIN-11 Assault Rifle 56,925 IskCala's MK-33 Submachine Gun Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun Wolfman's PCP-30 Scrambler Pistol 47,220 IskGastun's MIN-7 HMG So..... 1) Should knowing this actual cost affect open market value ? I won't like having to pay 1 million Isk for a 126,000 Sniper Rifle. 2) Should CCP just put these on the Market ? Then make some new, more powerful Rare Weapons to be dropped on the field? Yes. Any thoughts ?
These prices will change when the player market opens. All prices will change then. And I can assure you that you won't get any officer weapon for the price of a proto weapon.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
1561
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Posted - 2014.04.07 18:39:00 -
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People who Thale's snipe hardly ever lose them, so I wouldn't really pay that much for it. The Balac's weapons, aside from the GAR, are exceptionally rare, I would definitely pay more than that for them. And I would personally advise strongly against putting the officer weapons on the market, even if you put a newer, more souped up version there, the weapons you are proposing are already deadly enough, the "protostomping problem" as some put it, will only get worse and bleed more newberries.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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